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Title: Army Recruiters Threaten High Schoolers
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URL Source: http://www.kvue.com/news/state/stor ... kvuerecruit-bkm.10c88acd.html#
Published: Jul 29, 2008
Author: MARK GREENBLATT
Post Date: 2008-07-29 11:55:16 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 176
Comments: 8

HOUSTON -- With a war in Iraq and fighting on the rise in Afghanistan, the struggle to bring in new U.S. Army recruits is heating up again.

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And Irving Gonzales, 18, got caught up in it all.

As his family’s oldest male, he feels he has to do whatever it takes to help out his single mom. For him, that means working long hours at his after-school job.

“My mom was left struggling. I would give her more than half my paycheck,” Gonzales said.

That’s why the Aldine High School senior started thinking about the Army – and the tens of thousands of dollars in bonuses that can come with enlistment.

“They were offering me school, they were offering me bonuses,” he said.

So Gonzales signed up – but only to “pre-enlist” in the Delayed Entry Program. DEP allows kids to try out the military without a binding commitment.

But the 11 News Defenders have found there is a problem: Army recruiters aren’t sticking to the program and are bullying and even lying to potential recruits and their families to keep them from dropping out.

After he had a change of heart, Gonzalez became one such victim.

“I’d rather just stay here, go to college,” he said he told his recruiter.

The reaction: Gonzalez said a recruiter told him if he did drop out, they would send him to jail.

Scared, Gonzales called Sgt. Glenn Marquette, a supervisor at the Greenspoint Recruiting Station.

Marquette told Gonzales there was no way out.

“You signed a binding contract,” he said.

But that wasn’t true.

Army recruiting regulations say delayed entry members can leave any time. They specifically mention “under no circumstances will any (recruiter) threaten, coerce, manipulate, or intimidate (future soldiers), nor may they obstruct separation requests.”

Further, they state: “At no time will any (recruiter) tell a (Delayed Entry Program) member he or she must go in the Army or he or she will go to jail.”

But when Gonzales asked Marquette what would happen if he just didn’t show up for service, a phone recording captured this reply:

“Then guess what?” said Marquette. “You’re AWOL. Absent without leave. You want to go to school? You will not get no loans, because all college loans are federal and government loans. So you’ll be black barred from that. As soon as you get pulled over for a speeding ticket, they’re gonna see you’re a deserter, they’re going to apprehend you, take you to jail.”

Marquette continued: “So guess what? All that lovey-dovey 'I wanna go to college' and all that? Guess what? You just threw it out the window, because you just screwed your life.”

Eric Martinez, 17, is another young recruit who changed his mind.

“They make it seem there’s no way out,” his mother said.

Martinez said the nearby National Cemetery constantly reminds him – and his mother – of the risks and horrors of war.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

All garbage.

We don't need the huge military we have now. About 1/4 the size would do just fine to defend our borders against attack. If the oil industry, AIPAC, etc want to defend their interests abroad, they should hire fee for service mercenaries.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-29   12:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: scrapper2 (#1) (Edited)

If the oil industry, AIPAC, etc want to defend their interests abroad, they should hire fee for service mercenaries.

They already are - Blackwater, etc.

The truth is, having a huge military is the lesser evil when compared with a growing rent-a-thug industry. Military personnel are at least held accountable for their actions by a legal system, however flawed, while Blackwater mercenaries are more like mafia goons: only accountable to whatever fat cat signs off on their paychecks.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-07-29   12:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

I'm no attorney, but let me start counting what I think I see here:

- Operating under color of law
- Issuing threats
- Violation of Military Regulations
- Menacing
- Stalking
- Intimidation
- Violation of Military Code of Conduct
- Breach of Contract

Unless I miss my guess, this is jail time, a court martial, and a civil lawsuit.

I got to do one of these myself many many years ago and I never signed anything with them. They went away when charges began to be filed.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-07-29   12:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

The reaction: Gonzalez said a recruiter told him if he did drop out, they would send him to jail.

I was wondering what debt collectors did before they were debt collectors.

Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-07-29   12:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2 (#1)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-07-29   12:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#2)

They already are - Blackwater, etc.

The truth is, having a huge military is the lesser evil when compared with a growing rent-a-thug industry. Military personnel are at least held accountable for their actions by a legal system, however flawed, while Blackwater mercenaries are more like mafia goons: only accountable to whatever fat cat signs off on their paychecks.

Mercenaries are now hired and paid for by US taxpayers.

My point is that lobby groups like AIPAC and oil industry who currently use our military for their own special interest agendas should be required to hire mercenaries directly. The US military should be employed to protect/defend our nation from attack. The US military should not be used to protect and defend special interests. Let special interests pay for their own private contractor fighters. Fee for service mercenaries would not be wearing military uniforms. What they did abroad would be on orders from their special interest masters not from the DOD and the leadership of the nations where mercenaries were making mischief would not be constrained by the US gov't in how to deal with the mercenaries. No other country has the size of military we have. It's ridiculous. And because of the huge numbers of soldiers we have on board, this has made it very easy for Congress and special interest lobby groups to blur the lines on how and when and why our military is dispatched.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-29   12:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: scrapper2 (#6)

Mercenaries are now hired and paid for by US taxpayers.

Sure, but they are available for hire by oil companies, banks, or foreign lobbying groups.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-07-29   12:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#7)

Sure, but they are available for hire by oil companies, banks, or foreign lobbying groups.

Of course they are but the special interest groups are not feeling too compelled to hire mercenaries directly because there are more than enough US soldiers at their disposal to carry the brunt of the work. And US soldiers are supplemented by mercenaries paid for by the US taxpayers.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-07-29   13:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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