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Title: Ron Paul followers pose danger for McCain in West
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080731 ... t=Aocq7D9LamtAz3KhTGaGFSms0NUE
Published: Jul 31, 2008
Author: KATHLEEN HENNESSEY
Post Date: 2008-07-31 09:36:12 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 209
Comments: 11

Ron Paul followers pose danger for McCain in West

By KATHLEEN HENNESSEY, Associated Press Writer

Thu Jul 31, 3:06 AM ET

LAS VEGAS - Dueling delegations pitting Ron Paul's Nevada supporters against those of John McCain vow to take their fight to the Republican National Convention.

That's just one sign that the outsider, Internet-fueled movement led by the feisty Republican congressman from Texas remains afloat in the wake of McCain's victory in the GOP primaries.

In the libertarian-leaning West, where Paul's message of distrust of the federal government and ardent individualism played particularly well, there is talk of Republicans straying from McCain. Libertarian candidate Bob Barr has emerged as a favorite alternative for Paul activists, followed by Constitutional Party candidate Chuck Baldwin.

Even if the numbers of such dissenters are small, in tight contests in key Western states they could spoil McCain's chances, experts say.

"In Nevada, there's absolutely enough to have an effect on the election," said Chuck Muth, a leading conservative activist in a state in which early polls show McCain and Democratic candidate Barack Obama in a statistical tie.

"I think that you will see not just Libertarians who always vote for the Libertarian candidate but conservative Republicans saying we've had it, we've had enough and they're going to go ahead and vote Libertarian," Muth said.

Paul — or "Dr. Paul," as his followers reverently refer to the obstetrician-turned-politician — ran as the Libertarian Party nominee for president in 1988. But this year he carved out a following as an antiestablishment Republican. His campaign won more than 1 million votes and became a catchall for anti-war, anti-government voters and disaffected Republicans.

The eclectic coalition racked up significant numbers. Paul placed second — ahead of McCain — in Republican caucuses in Nevada and Montana. He posted strong showings in nominating contests in Colorado, Washington and Oregon. In early June, he pulled away 14 percent of the vote from the already certain nominee in the New Mexico primary.

This is the West that McCain must win.

The interior West generally has been friendly territory for Republicans seeking the White House. Nevada, Montana and Colorado voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004.

But history also warns of the impact of feisty Texans who preach small government.

"There's little doubt Bill Clinton would not have won Montana if it weren't for Ross Perot," said Bob Brown, a senior fellow at the Center for the Rocky Mountain West at the University of Montana. "And I think it's clear those votes were Republican."

The same could be said of Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado, states where the two-time independent candidate for president is often given credit for Clinton's breaking a two-decade-long Republican presidential winning streak in 1992.

The McCain campaign says they expect many Paul voters to come home to the GOP before Nov. 4.

"At the end of the day, Republicans are going to vote for John McCain. He's a Western candidate who understands water issues, land issues. He's a fiscal conservative," said Rick Gorka, a campaign spokesman. "His message is appealing to a broad spectrum of voters."

There's little sign of that unification yet. In Nevada, state GOP officials abruptly shut down the state convention as a group of well-organized newcomers were poised to win delegates for Paul.

The group led by Paul supporters then held its own rogue convention and elected its own delegates. For its part, the state party couldn't get enough delegates to attend a second convention and appointed delegates by committee. A judge ruled against the Paul supporters when they filed suit. They now plan to file a challenge with the Republican National Committee.

Both groups are heading to the national convention in St. Paul, Minn.

"We're trying to say, 'Hey, you guys got to play by the rules, and if you don't, you'll face the consequences,'" said Wayne Terhune, a 57-year-old dentist in Sparks, Nev., and a leading Paul activist in the state. "They just took the football and went home."

Even without Nevada, Paul will send at least a handful of delegates to the national convention. Outside the convention hall, his supporters have reserved a 15,000-seat basketball arena for a "mini-convention."

Paul hasn't endorsed, but it is clear whom he is not supporting.

"I do encourage all the alternatives, obviously, because I can't support either of the two candidates from the Republican or Democratic parties," Paul said this month in an interview on Revolution Radio, an Internet-based station run by his supporters. "I think that might send a message."

In interviews with a dozen Paul voters from around the West, anti-administration sentiment rang loudest. Most were newly active in politics but had been regular Republican voters. They said their activism began with opposition to the Bush administration's foreign policy.

As newcomers, they expressed little party allegiance and little concern that their third-party votes could benefit Obama, a candidate even further from their views than McCain.

"The notion is, let's just break the GOP because the people who are running and holding office in it aren't respecting what the constituents want," said Jay Weeldreyer, a Paul field director in Renton, Wash. "So, if we can just let them suffer a massive loss, then maybe that will get through to them."

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#1. To: Cynicom, Phant2000, ghostdogtxn, MINGTHEMERCILESS, Critter (#0)

"The notion is, let's just break the GOP because the people who are running and holding office in it aren't respecting what the constituents want," said Jay Weeldreyer, a Paul field director in Renton, Wash. "So, if we can just let them suffer a massive loss, then maybe that will get through to them."

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-07-31   10:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

In the libertarian-leaning West, where Paul's message of distrust of the federal government and ardent individualism played particularly well, there is talk of Republicans straying from McCain. Libertarian candidate Bob Barr has emerged as a favorite alternative for Paul activists, followed by Constitutional Party candidate Chuck Baldwin.

Even if the numbers of such dissenters are small, in tight contests in key Western states they could spoil McCain's chances, experts say.

Oh, the humanity!! LOL ;-) Haahahaha

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-07-31   10:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

But this year he [Ron Paul] carved out a following as an antiestablishment Republican.

McCain's the antidisestablishment Republican.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-07-31   11:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

The McCain campaign says they expect many Paul voters to come home to the GOP before Nov. 4.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-07-31   12:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: who knows what evil, Jethro Tull (#4)

The McCain campaign says they expect many Paul voters to come home to the GOP before Nov. 4.

ROTFLMAO!!!

That's why the party leaders continue to "not get the message". They really think that people will toe the line in the end. Sadly you see many who will. I just want to scream every time I see someone post the lesser of two evils argument. You even see a little of that in the article. If you don't vote for McCain the Dem will win just like with Perot. Sigh.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-31   12:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#5)

If you don't vote for McCain the Dem will win just like with Perot.

Total crock. Perot voters were never voting for Bush. The Rs-Ds have no clue.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-07-31   12:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Perot voters were never voting for Bush.

And I won't vote for McCain. Other than writing in Paul, which is pointless if not counted, I don't see anyone I can vote for. I will go vote on the other ballot items, we have 11 propositions on the ballot, but I'll skip Pres.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-31   12:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: farmfriend (#5)

If you don't vote for McCain the Dem will win just like with Perot. Sigh.

So? What's the difference? :-)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-07-31   12:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: who knows what evil (#8)

So? What's the difference? :-)

Exactly!


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-07-31   12:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend, all (#9)

#9. To: who knows what evil (#8)

So? What's the difference? :-) Exactly!

Every time the phone rings and it's a pollster,

I give them an ear full of "Dr. Ron Paul is the most conservative Presidential candidate and the Republicans should be ashamed for not selecting him as the candidate".

Our citizens do not deserve a President as good as Dr. Ron Paul. What they deserve is higher taxes, more government inefficiency, war, regulations and devalued currency.(me)

"I am further of opinion that it would be better for us to have [no laws] at all than to have them in so prodigious numbers as we have."
Michel Eyquem, seigneur de Montaigne (1533–1592)

"I'm pro-choice.........on light bulbs!"
Joseph Farah (2008)

catcher  posted on  2008-07-31   15:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#1)

"The notion is, let's just break the GOP because the people who are running and holding office in it aren't respecting what the constituents want," said Jay Weeldreyer, a Paul field director in Renton, Wash. "So, if we can just let them suffer a massive loss, then maybe that will get through to them."

The Republicans lied, cheated, violated the rules in every way possible to give Ron Paul's delegates to McCain. As a result I would vote for the Obama before I would vote for McCain. However, I plan to not waste my time voting.

DWornock  posted on  2008-07-31   19:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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