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Title: ABC: McCain seriously considering Lieberman for VP
Source: blog ABC
URL Source: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/mccains-new-str.html
Published: Jul 31, 2008
Author: some guy with a blog
Post Date: 2008-07-31 11:40:58 by Rupert_Pupkin
Keywords: McCain, Lieberman, VP
Views: 657
Comments: 30

McCain's New Strategy Email Share July 30, 2008 7:59 PM

ABC News' Jan Crawford Greenburg Reports: McCain's tough new "celebrity" ad campaign, designed to portray Obama as an empty suit who -- like Paris Hilton -- is devoid of substance, is the first part of a broader strategy that ultimately could have ramifications for McCain's VP selection.

The campaign will continue to hit hard that Obama is not an agent of change -- but a man who merely plays to his audience and is unwilling to risk losing his adoring crowds by making the tough decisions. This is only the first volley, sources close to McCain tell ABC News.

There's a bigger point -- and this initial volley, they say, lays the groundwork for it. They will be sharpening McCain's message that he, not Obama, is the true change agent, a man who's repeatedly taken unpopular stands, made the hard calls and forged bipartisan alliances.

Part of the calculus now is how his VP choice will further sharpen that message. There is significant support among top McCain advisers that he make a "transformative" pick who would change the Republican Party -- someone who would appeal to moderate Republicans and Democrats.

This pick would be someone who, like McCain, has taken the unpopular stands, made the hard calls and stood firm on principle.

A person who fills that bill, these advisers say, is Joe Lieberman.

Lieberman, an Independent Democrat, flatly denied his interest to ABC's Ron Claiborne earlier this month, but McCain is now seriously considering him as that "transformative" pick, sources tell ABC News.

McCain is close to Lieberman, admires his willingness to stand alone on principle and shares his views that Islamo-fascism is the most serious threat to the nation's future.

What's more, some McCain advisers believe Lieberman would dramatically enhance the point they are now trying to make about Obama in this "celebrity" ad campaign.

McCain and Lieberman are anti-celebrities, the argument goes. They have, as one top adviser said, felt the heat after taking unpopular positions because they were willing to do "what's right for the country" -- whatever it meant for their own popularity.

Tom Ridge also would be that kind of pick -- and he, too, is on McCain's very short list, sources say. As a Republican who was Bush's director of Homeland Security, he is less dramatic than Lieberman. He also ran into some problems at Homeland Security with his color-coding system.

But as a moderate pro-choice politician and former Pennsylvania governor, he, too, could make a statement--and open the Party to moderates who now are up for grabs.

And looking at the map, Ridge also could deliver Pennsylvania -- a state McCain badly needs.

McCain has not decided which route to take. The transformative pick would anger a slice of the base, and he could decide, at the end of the day, to pick the conventional conservative.

That would be Mitt Romney, Minn. Gov. Tim Pawlenty or former Ohio Rep. Rob Portman, sources tell ABC News.

But of those three, only Pawlenty would help with McCain's "change" message.

Romney, a flip-flopper extraordinaire, is vulnerable to the "celebrity" tag himself--and Portman is defined as Bush's budget director.

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Poster Comment: The bad side of McCain-Lieberman is that now the neoconservatives are fully in control of BOTH parties. The good side to McCain-Lieberman is that it may make people realize that we have a one party system posing as two.

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#3. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#0)

The good side to McCain-Lieberman is that it may make people realize that we have a one party system posing as two.

I think more people realize this than you might think. Yet, they still play along with the charade. It's like choosing up which football team to root for.

There were and are a lot of professional wrestling fans who knew and know it is fake and yet still watch it with rapt fascination.

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-07-31   12:05:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston, christine (#3)

There were and are a lot of professional wrestling fans who knew and know it is fake and yet still watch it with rapt fascination.

That must mean that professional wrestling fans are smarter than die-hard Democrats or Republicans. A lot of voters don't know that R vs. D elections are fake.

Christine - could you please change "consider" to "considering" in the title?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-07-31   12:23:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#6)

That must mean that professional wrestling fans are smarter than die-hard Democrats or Republicans. A lot of voters don't know that R vs. D elections are fake.



Rotara  posted on  2008-07-31   13:01:40 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rotara (#8)

add this to your pics:

Noachide Judges and Courts will Replace the

Existing Court System of Each Country

Al Gore Letter 10 01-Nov-2000 Education Day USA

[Upon seizing the reins of government, the new Noachide leaders will move quickly to implement a full agenda of reform. ... Full support will be given to Israeli forces to reinvade PLO-controlled areas, with military assistance offered where necessary. Jewish courts ... will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts.

The pre-existing Noachide judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha.... .... And law and order will be fully restored through the establishment of internal security measures, again in accordance with Torah law. — Committee for Israeli Victory]

ABOVE: Vice-Presidential candidate Joe Lieberman with the Lubavitcher Rebbe (on our right in the photo).

LEFT: Ukrainian-born Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, 1902-1994.

..... In Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky's book Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel (Pluto Press, 1999, pp. 58-62), Rabbi Schneerson is cited as teaching that:

* Jews and non-Jews are of an entirely different species.
* A non-Jew should be punished by death if he kills an embryo, even if the embryo is non-Jewish, while the Jew should not be, even if the embryo is Jewish.
* Two kinds of souls exist — all non-Jewish souls originate from one of three satanic spheres, whereas Jewish souls originate from holiness.
* The universe was created for the sake of Jews, and the role of all non-Jews is to serve Jews.....

Skimming through the writings of Rabbi Schneerson that have been made available on the Internet readily confirms that he perceives a radical superiority of Jews over non-Jews, a confirmation that is surprising in view of the expectation that his Internet writings would have been sanitized. Rabbi Schneerson below is commenting on the strategy of getting non-Jews to submit to the Seven Noahide Laws that we saw President Reagan commending above:

The Seven Laws must be explained in a way that the nations can relate to and, because non-Jews do not possess genuine free will, they will be willing to change more quickly and easily than a Jew.

— Hisvaduyos 5748 3:183, cited in "The Deed is the Main Thing," Kol Boi Ha'olam, p. 385-386.

www.noahide.com/rebbe.htm (underlining is in the original)......

The Noahide Laws may have to be imposed by force

The only way such laws could be imposed on the American people is by force, perhaps the sort of brute force that one sees Israelis applying today to Palestinians, a prospect that the Lubavitcher Rabbi has already anticipated, with the softening afterthoughts being added, as below, to public versions of his anticipation so as to avoid causing alarm:

Aren't we busy enough working with Jews? Can we really afford to divert time and money to the campaign to transform the gentiles? [T]he Rambam uses the expression, "lakuf ("to forcefully influence") all inhabitants of the world to accept the Noachide commands." Although obviously one must do this in a pleasant, gentle, and peaceful way, it still must be done with persistence. If you have already tried several times, try again nevertheless. We frequently see that although people are sometimes spoken to five times, they do not change until they hear it a sixth time! — Purim, 5747, Sichos in English, vol. 35, p. 4.

www.noahide.com/rebbe.htm (underlining and square-bracketed material is in the original; the answer having nothing to do with the question is not atypical of Lubavitcher writing)

Idolatry is the greatest sin

One thing that is abundantly clear about the Noahide Laws is their emphasis on the prohibition of idolatry — an emphasis which is evident in the idolatry law being placed in first position, and in the idolatry law being related to the blasphemy law which is accorded second position. It is on the question of idolatry that the Noahide Laws are most revealing.

What is the idolatry that the Noahide helpers must avoid? The answer is that idolatry is primarily Christianity, but also every religion other than Judaism.

Encouraging the abandonment of Christianity: "...according to the known Jewish legal ruling that Christians are idol worshippers."

— Likutei Sichos 37:198, from a letter of the Rebbe dated 26 Iyra, 5726, cited in Kol Boi HaOlam, p. 389.

www.noahide.com/rebbe.htm .....

www.cephas-library.com/nw...ts_will_replace_ours.html

===========

....Sukkos: [T]he seventy bulls offered as mussaf sacrifices throughout the holiday of Sukkos correspond to the seventy nations of the world. Each day the number of bulls sacrificed decreased indicating how the "goyishe" tendencies of the gentiles must always decrease and how it is necessary for them to take on a different identity, one associated with the fulfillment of the seven commandments given to Noach and offering aid and assistance to the Jewish people.... Also, this is associated with the Haftorah read this morning which mentions the Messianic prophecy describing how the holiday of Sukkos will be celebrated by all the nations. Similarly, our celebration of Simchas Bais Hashoevah will also have an effect on the gentiles. Not only will they not disturb the celebrations, they will assist in preparing the celebrations. Furthermore, they will be inspired to participate by standing on the side and clapping and the like.

--2nd night of Sukkos, 5747, Sichos in English, vol. 33, pp. 88-89.

This also implies involving others (even gentiles) in the celebration. Not only must they witness the rejoicing, but they must also take part in the celebrations and attain the unique level of joy appropriate for the present evening.

--6th night of Sukkos, 5747, Sichos in English, vol. 33, p. 139.

The Hasidic Gentile Campaign: The Rebbe Speaks

www.noahide.com/rebbe.htm

The Lubavitchers considered the Reeb their Messiah.

Talmud Jews gather in Washington to honor antichrist schneerson ... Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) was scheduled to speak, but was caught in traffic generated by flooding... www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message255557/pg1

btw, under the Noahide Laws, Christians are to be beheaded for their "idolatry" of Jesus Christ.

Frankly, that might be preferable to living in the Lubavitchers' smarmy dreamworld.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-07-31   18:34:10 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#18)

Rabbi Schneerson: "Jews and non-Jews are of an entirely different species."

Does Hasidic Izzy Lieberman believe the same about us gullible goyim being an entirely different species from he and his kinsmen? That we are not human, like they? Of course he does. He laughs up his sleeve that the goyim worship his and the Rebbe's tribal God, Yahweh. Yah! Ha!

What's that bizarre get-up pictured on schneering Schneerson's forehead?

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-08-02   9:10:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#22)

What's that bizarre get-up pictured on schneering Schneerson's forehead?

It's called a smuggle, and they are used to tenderize pork and other meat products.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-02   9:13:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

It's called a smuggle, and they are used to tenderize pork and other meat products.

Schmuggel. That's a good one!

It's a cultural thing, not meant for us goyim to comprehend; sort of like the "oral suction" practice of Yid Mohels, here:

www.jewishjournal.com/com...rcumcision_rite_20050218/

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-08-02   10:48:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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www.jewishjournal.com/com...rcumcision_rite_20050218/

Oh my goodness.....Good find, I guess. Welcome Brother!

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