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Title: Ramos and Compean Lose 5th Circuit Court Appeal
Source: JBS
URL Source: http://jbs.org/index.php/jbs-news-f ... -lose-5th-circuit-court-appeal
Published: Jul 31, 2008
Author: Ann Shibler
Post Date: 2008-07-31 23:34:00 by farmfriend
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Views: 463
Comments: 48

Ramos and Compean Lose 5th Circuit Court Appeal

Written by Ann Shibler Thursday, 31 July 2008 10:45

In a fresh outrage, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has rendered a 46-page decision upholding the convictions of Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

All convictions were affirmed except those for tampering with official proceedings, which has been remanded for resentencing. In his opinion Judge E. Grady Jolly (a Reagan appointee) wrote: “We leave the major conviction with the major sentence … untouched.” He continued, “The underlying crime of violence with which the defendants were charged is assault within the special territorial jurisdiction of the United States. Once the defendants were charged by the government and convicted by the jury under this statute, the district court had no discretion but to impose at least a ten-year sentence.”

Court observer Edd Hendee’s analysis raises some concerns. Being present at the December 2007 hearing Hendee says this overly late decision — which should have been rendered in 60 days, not eight months — is not compelling and contains “conflicts of common sense and clear intent of the law.”

Hendee recorded these observations back at the December 2007 hearing:

• Judge Jolly openly stated it “does seem the Government over-reacted” in this prosecution"
• All 3 judges aggressively went after the 924C gun charges pointing out that there are no other cases where law enforcement officers were charged with this crime
• Judge Higginbotham asked U.S. attorney if every policeman who was accused of using unreasonable force should face 924 C charges or were they discretionary; Judges strongly disagreed with the application of the 924C charges.
• The judges further raised questions that the witness Davilla was not a low level mule but routinely ran drugs and would have likely carried a weapon in the daily activities of smuggling drugs.
• There was NO indication that the judges considered the U.S. Attorney’s discretion reasonable or that the 924C gun charges were warranted.

Regardless of their sentiments back in 2007, the court has raised a red flag with their opinion, and by not agreeing that the defendants should have been able to introduce evidence of Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila’s second alleged drug-trafficking incident in October 2005 (months after the February 2005 incident.) And regardless of their own 60-day goal for reaching a decision, the black robes’ eight-month hiatus could also be viewed with great suspicion, given that their previous statements are contradicted by their conclusion, that:

For the most part, the trial of this case was about credibility, and although the jury could have gone either way, it chose not to believe the defendants’ version of the crucial events of February 17. The trial of the case was conducted fairly and without reversible error.

Heartbreakingly, Ramos and Compean remain in solitary confinement, their wives and families devastated emotionally and financially.

Unless enough pressure comes to bear on the White House, this stomach-wrenching affair may never be righted. Pardons and commutations are political and not based on merit. So, even with top republicans now demanding a commutation, the White House continues to sidestep the issue. When Sen. John Cornyn approached White House spokeswoman Dana Perino on the subject, she responded: "There is a process in which people in our country can ask a president of the United States for a commutation of their sentence and that process can take place if those individuals want it to."

How likely is a presidential pardon? The answer: not very. While the president found time to pardon his pal, Scooter Libby, and to contemplate pre-emptive pardons for administration officials in the increasingly unlikely event Congress might demand accountability for wrongdoing in the areas of torture and illegal wiretapping, he is unlikely to get around to pardoning officers Ramos and Compean.

Petitions for commutations are submitted to the Justice Department for investigation and review, but the Justice Department is presently two or three years behind in authorizing the first step of investigations. Meanwhile, the most egregious perversion of the American legal system in recent memory remains, a mockery of the idea of justice.

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#10. To: farmfriend (#0)

I understand that the guy who got shot was an illegal but, unless I am mistaken, they guy was also unarmed and was running away from the 2 heroes. Also, there was no way for the 2 heroes to know that the guy running from them was in illegal. What if he was an American?

How comfortable is everyone with the idea of uniformed G-men shooting unarmed civilians in the ass?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-01   8:45:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)

You just cited the government version. They gave him immunity to lie under oath.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-08-01   11:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: farmfriend (#11)

I believe that the guy did get shot in the ass, didn't he. Someone shot him. Is there any doubt as of who did the shooting?

On the 'whom' R&C shot and why... hmmm... is it okay to shoot someone you don't know IN THE BACK (ass) while the guy is unarmed and running away from you, just because you are 'the authorities'? What was the Mex guy going to do while he had his back turned at them and running? Fart in their general direction?

Of course, the 2 are pawns, the products of a police state culture. Remember the guy killed by 'the authorities' as he was running away from them, probably frightened by their sexy black overalls and dark glasses? His guilt was that of being a bit mentally unstable and did not COMPLETELY freeze when 'the authorities' commanded him to do so.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-01   11:10:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)

He should have been shot in the head with R&C given an immediately promotion.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-01   11:17:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#13) (Edited)

A cop supporting the police state... should anyone be surprised?

Now, if you were off your (legal?) meds, you would have noticed the facts:

- 2 armed cops should an unarmed guy in the ass, while the guy was running away from them.
- the cops didn't know if the guy was a Mexican, an American, mentally will or training for the Olympic decathlon, but they shot him anyway.

Hmmm... yeah. They acted professionally, it seems. They deserve a promotion.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-01   11:31:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#15)

A cop supporting the police state... should anyone be surprised?

When Homeland Security immunizes a major drug dealer so that he can testify against the border agents from whom he admittedly fled, the notion that the North American Union and it’s associated flood of narcotics are a a given. By me supporting R&C, I opposes the very police state you say I support. But given your attraction to black political community activists, I'm not surprised by your confusion.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-01   12:37:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19) (Edited)

The immunization happened after the guy was shot. You stated that he should have been shot in the head, BEFORE the gov't immunized him.

I see a lot of problems with your thinking.

One of them is the time sequence of events. The other is your support of cops' 'right' to shoot unarmed people in the back. Then, you seem to say that the cops should be viewed as innocent or heroes for shooting someone in the back BECAUSE the gov't immunized a foreign drug dealer AFTER they shot him. Maybe these people should walk free on this technicality but that does not make them good border agents and certainly does not make them heroes.

Again, keep in mind that they did not know EXACTLY whom they were shooting. It could have been you. How would you feel about this incident if you had to reply to this post while lying on your stomach because some cops shot off your ass?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-01   12:53:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)

Invaders should be shot in the back, head, ears, nose and other assorted body parts. If illegal invaders are to be discouraged, that's the fastest, most cost effective way to protect he nation. Of course this won't happen b/c people are all talk, and in the end they'll turn their back on these men and bow to the govt. in the form of Homeland Security.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-01   13:05:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#21)

You still don't get it. They did not know that the guy was 'invader'. They just shot someone in the back.

And, anyways, you should blame your government for practically inviting these people in and your fellow landscaper for hiring them.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-01   13:22:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Arator (#23)

President Bush's refusal to pardon Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean -- and White House spokesman Tony Snow's attitude of indifference regarding same -- is a slap in the face to families of murder victims slain by convicted felons in the country illegally and to our nation's law-enforcement professionals. John and Barbara March, the parents of former Los Angeles Deputy Sheriff David March, know only too well. Their son was murdered five years ago by Armando Garcia, a twice-convicted felon in the country illegally who had been deported to Mexico three previous times. After murdering Deputy March on April 29, 2002, Garcia then eluded law enforcement by slipping back across the border.

John and Barbara have worked tirelessly the past five years with authorities and politicians on both sides of the border to fight for the extradition of Garcia back to Los Angeles. After appearances on countless radio talk shows, thousands of hours of diplomacy and a myriad of behind-the-scenes political wrangling, Garcia was finally extradited to the United States on Jan. 9 of this year.Now John and Barbara March are committed to a new battle. They are dedicated to the release of Border Agents Ramos and Compean, sentenced to 11 and 12 years, respectively, for shooting a drug smuggler in the buttocks while trying to apprehend him after he had crossed the border illegally.

Appearing as a guest on my radio show just days prior to when the agents were required to report to prison, John March had this to say, "Border Patrol Agent Ignacio Ramos called me today to congratulate me on the extradition of Armando Garcia. Here is a man, scheduled to begin serving an 11-year prison term in just three days and he calls 'me' to congratulate 'me' on my family's good news. What does that tell you about the kind of man Ignacio Ramos is? And I also ask you what kind of message does their arrest and prison sentence send to our nations Border Patrol agents? The message it sends is clear: be careful of what you do while in the line of duty. You just might shoot at a convicted drug felon and end up going to prison."

Steve Spernak, the March family spokesman and a former decorated police officer added: "Had Border Agents stopped Armando Garcia and national laws locked him up as a repeat 'crosser' and convicted felon, their son, David, would be alive today. Same for unknown thousands of Americans, who have been murdered by convicted felons in the country illegally. The majority of victims are Mexican American immigrants in the country legally. This sends a chilling message to all Border Patrol agents and should to all Americans as well."

Recent statistics and events in California demonstrate the magnitude of the problem. Over a third of the 172,000 inmates in the California's prison system were captured while in the country illegally. In Los Angeles, 80 percent of the prisoners in L.A. County Jail are gangsters, a third of whom were arrested while in the country illegally. Last week there was a three-county sweep in which 745 illegal criminal aliens were arrested. According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement investigators, 400 were in custody and awaiting release back onto the streets.

California congressman and presidential candidate Duncan Hunter is attempting to take matters into his own hands. Mr. Hunter recently introduced the Congressional Pardon for Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean. According to Mr. Hunter's staff, research indicates Congress has never enacted legislation purporting to grant an individual pardon. However, the Supreme Court has not ruled on the constitutional authority of Congress to grant individual pardons. Mr. Hunter's staff is currently in the process of obtaining the text of pertinent House and Senate bills.

The White House stance is not only a slap in the face to families of murder victims and law enforcement. It is a slap in the face to American working-class families of all ethnic backgrounds.

Free Ramos, Compean

You two are a slap in the face to any American worth his or her salt. ;-)

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