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Title: Obama says he opposes slavery reparations, apology
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92A5GCG0&show_article=1
Published: Aug 2, 2008
Author: Chris Wills
Post Date: 2008-08-02 10:15:47 by christine
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Views: 738
Comments: 54

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama opposes offering reparations to the descendants of slaves, putting him at odds with some black groups and leaders. The man with a serious chance to become the nation's first black president argues that government should instead combat the legacy of slavery by improving schools, health care and the economy for all.

"I have said in the past—and I'll repeat again—that the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed," the Illinois Democrat said recently.

Some two dozen members of Congress are co-sponsors of legislation to create a commission that would study reparations—that is, payments and programs to make up for the damage done by slavery.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People supports the legislation, too. Cities around the country, including Obama's home of Chicago, have endorsed the idea, and so has a major union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

Obama has worked to be seen as someone who will bring people together, not divide them into various interest groups with checklists of demands. Supporting reparations could undermine that image and make him appear to be pandering to black voters.

"Let's not be naive. Sen. Obama is running for president of the United States, and so he is in a constant battle to save his political life," said Kibibi Tyehimba, co-chair of the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America. "In light of the demographics of this country, I don't think it's realistic to expect him to do anything other than what he's done."

But this is not a position Obama adopted just for the presidential campaign. He voiced the same concerns about reparations during his successful run for the Senate in 2004.

There's enough flexibility in the term "reparations" that Obama can oppose them and still have plenty of common ground with supporters.

The NAACP says reparations could take the form of government programs to help struggling people of all races. Efforts to improve schools in the inner city could also aid students in the mountains of West Virginia, said Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP's Washington bureau.

"The solution could be broad and sweeping," Shelton said.

The National Urban League—a group Obama is to address Saturday—avoids the word "reparations" as too vague and highly charged. But the group advocates government action to close the gaps between white America and black America.

Urban League President Marc Morial said he expects his members to press Obama on how he intends to close those gaps and what action he would take in the first 100 days of his presidency.

"What steps should we take as a nation to alleviate the effects of racial exclusion and racial discrimination?" Morial asked.

The House voted this week to apologize for slavery. The resolution, which was approved on a voice vote, does not mention reparations, but past opponents have argued that an apology would increase pressure for concrete action.

Obama says an apology would be appropriate but not particularly helpful in improving the lives of black Americans. Reparations could also be a distraction, he said.

In a 2004 questionnaire, he told the NAACP, "I fear that reparations would be an excuse for some to say, 'We've paid our debt,' and to avoid the much harder work."

Taking questions Sunday at a conference of minority journalists, Obama said he would be willing to talk to American Indian leaders about an apology for the nation's treatment of their people.

Pressed for his position on apologizing to blacks or offering reparations, Obama said he was more interested in taking action to help people struggling to get by. Because many of them are minorities, he said, that would help the same people who would stand to benefit from reparations.

"If we have a program, for example, of universal health care, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because they're disproportionately uninsured," Obama said. "If we've got an agenda that says every child in America should get—should be able to go to college, regardless of income, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because it's oftentimes our children who can't afford to go to college."

One reparations advocate, Vernellia Randall, a law professor at the University of Dayton, bluntly responded: "I think he's dead wrong."

She said aid to the poor in general won't close the gaps—poor blacks would still trail poor whites, and middle-class blacks would still lag behind middle-class whites. Instead, assistance must be aimed directly at the people facing the after-effects of slavery and Jim Crow laws, she said.

"People say he can't run and get elected if he says those kinds of things," Randall said. "I'm like, well does that mean we're really not ready for a black president?"

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#11. To: christine (#0)

In a 2004 questionnaire, he told the NAACP, "I fear that reparations would be an excuse for some to say, 'We've paid our debt,' and to avoid the much harder work."

Stupid cs. How long should white people be expected to keep "paying a debt" that no white has owed in half a dozen generations (or more)? And it is also true that not all that many white people owned any slaves and that some blacks owned slaves. But they never want to talk about that. I think the best thing anyone can do when Jesse, Al or any of the rest of the poverty pimps start agitating for reparations is to tell them to piss up a rope.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-02   18:11:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: James Deffenbach (#11) (Edited)

Stupid cs. How long should white people be expected to keep "paying a debt" that no white has owed in half a dozen generations (or more)? And it is also true that not all that many white people owned any slaves and that some blacks owned slaves. But they never want to talk about that. I think the best thing anyone can do when Jesse, Al or any of the rest of the poverty pimps start agitating for reparations is to tell them to piss up a rope.

I'd like to tell them that if not for whites there would never have been an abolition movement. And, if not for American whites who knows how long the institution may have endured? (the way it does in dark countries to this day)

Of course they want to bleed the descendants of abolitionists and those who fought and died in the war that ended the evil in America just as they want to compensate those who either are not descendants of slaves or were perhaps non white slave holders themselves.

In other words, blacks want to be enriched by whites with no regard for any factor but skin color.

We should give blacks a choice ( in a referendum) between a million dollars cash for each, or the equivalent sum being spent on health care, education, laptops for all students and urban renewal, and see which they choose.

Of course they'd opt for the cash and if we were foolish enough to pay them (with even more near-worthless 100 dollar bills fresh off the presses) then BMW dealers, custom bling vendors, gun dealers, drug entrepreneurs and African American undertakers would be the next classes of windfall millionaires in America.

But, it would truly end any obligation to these perpetual victims before they return broke and bitter in a year asking for more. (If we had done this before spending trillions on programs that failed it would have been a bargain)

Of course the next time we'd have to hear how they were victimized again, this time by the cash payments with no meaningful assistance in financial planning, and how evil racist whites knew that would happen and "dat's wye dey did it!"

The streets would be littered with abandoned luxury sportscars (whites, browns, Asians etc., wouldn't want the stigma and the danger of driving a pre-owned "reparations ride") and America would have a new list of criminal cartel warlords, but in the time it takes to say "Send all dem hoes to my room! Oh, and I'll have another Cutty Sark wid a twist of lime!" most blacks that don't OD or die in shootouts or flaming car wrecks would be right back to where they were-poor as catshit and blaming whitey.

TODAY ON OPRAH! "WHITE HOES TOOKS MY FIVE SONS' MILLIONS AND NOW SOMEONE GOT TO PAY!" Also, Special guest speaker NOI Health Minister Abdul Alim Muhammad claims that "Jewish doctors are no longer injecting blacks with AIDS-SICK WHITE HOES ARE KILLING US!"

TOMORROW A SPECIAL EDITION OPRAH! DON'T MISS OPRAH'S INTERVIEW WITH A WHITE FORMER PROSTITUTE-MADAM WHO EARNED 78 MILLION DOLLARS IN 8 MONTHS AND NOW LIVES ON A PRIVATE ISLAND WHERE SHE SAYS, "BLACKS AREN'T WELCOME!"

And now a CHI TOWN Channel 6 fast facts news break: The Chicago Board Of Health's "Bring Out Your Dead" plan has been abruptly halted after several of the incinerator trucks were firebombed and machine gunned and the crews of health workers murdered.

"We've pleaded with residents and tried to explain that if dead bodies are not properly disposed of the neighborhoods will become hot beds of disease, and the aquifers are already testing positive for plague" Paul Toby Tweed of the University of ILL Health Sciences Department said.

"But, we were again forced to retreat because of the withering gunfire and absence of police response to the breakdown of law and order in certain PRP (Poor/Rich/Poor again) enclaves of the city." Tweed said.

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#54. To: HOUNDDAWG (#53)

You done hit de nail right square on de head dere brudder.

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