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Title: Voter fraud cases leave Hale County, Alabama, wary
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URL Source: http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20080323/NEWS/375546667/1007
Published: Aug 3, 2008
Author: Robert DeWitt
Post Date: 2008-08-03 10:36:38 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 7

Voter fraud cases leave Hale County wary

By Robert DeWitt Staff Writer

Published: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 3:30 a.m.

Last Modified: Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 11:16 p.m. GREENSBORO | It seems only natural that the arrest of former Hale County Circuit Clerk Gay Nell Tinker on charges of voter fraud would be the talk of the town.

Staff photo | Robert DeWitt Mike Jeffries, shown washing a pickup outside his detail shop in Greensboro on Thursday, says he doesn’t think the former Circuit Clerk Gay Nell Tinker did anything wrong and that the voter fraud investigation was racially motivated.But a lot of people in Hale County aren't talking.

Outside the Sawyerville Convenience Store, a middle-aged black man wearing a sport coat over a T-shirt just shakes his head when he hears the topic.

'No, not me,' he said when asked his name. 'I don't get into that.'

A middle-aged white man in jeans, a denim shirt and ball cap pauses over his meal at the Mustang Oil café in Greensboro and shakes his head in much the same way. He knows why he won't involve himself in the subject and thinks he knows why others won't either.

'Why? Because they're not going to do a thing to them,' he said, referring to the three people, including Tinker, who were indicted on voter fraud charges. 'They're going to walk free, and they're guilty.'

Tinker, Rosie Lyles and Valada Paige Banks, all black, have been charged with crimes stemming from alleged voter fraud. The indictments come after a tumultuous decade during which thousands of the county's absentee ballots became the deciding votes in municipal and county elections.

In that time, a bank where absentee ballots had been stored for the district attorney burned in an arson that remains unsolved and the Greensboro mayoral election was overturned by the courts. A judge issued an arrest warrant for the probate judge and an attorney general's investigator looking into voter fraud allegations was thrown in jail.

Opposing camps fired salvos at each other, one charging fraud while the other claimed racism. Alabama's secretary of state Beth Chapman made the county her poster child for election reform and civil rights activist Al Sharpton came to town to whip up support for Lyles and Banks.

Public on edge

Such events have left people feeling too sensitive to talk about it openly. Sitting at his table at the Mustang, Big Ray Duncan, who operates the local farmer's co-op, thinks he understands why.

'Anything we say may come across as racist in this day and time,' said Duncan, who is white. 'Nobody wants to cause any more trouble in a little town like this.'

Merchants, both black and white, are particularly sensitive. They say it would be bad for business to talk.

One young black man sitting outside his store is insistent that the store's name not appear in print.

'This isn't going to be in there?' he said, pointing up to the sign above him bearing the store's name.

For all their reluctance, people in Hale County are not unfriendly or uninformed. And some do speak up. Mike Jeffries shrugged and said he had nothing to hide as he washed a pickup at his detail stand.

'Back when this first happened, we had the same case with the white people,' said Jeffries, who is black. 'When that happened, we couldn't get anybody down here to investigate. When black people get into office they always find something wrong. You got all these people coming down here to investigate.'

Jeffries doesn't think Tinker did anything wrong.

'She never did anything but try to help the community,' he said.

Among the most outspoken critics of the voter fraud investigation is state Sen. Bobby Singleton, Tinker's ex-husband and a major beneficiary of absentee votes. He could not be reached for comment.

Down the street from Jeffries' detail shop, Verlie Campbell enjoyed the evening sun in a chair outside. An Ohio native, he said he was shocked at some of the things he saw going on.

'Folks going into vote and they find out somebody's already voted in their name, that's wrong,' said Campbell, who is black. He believes voter fraud is a serious matter and ought to be investigated.

Perry Beasley of Greensboro believes the racism charges just don't hold water.

'The majority of the people who vote over here are black,' said Beasley, who is white. 'All of the candidates involved are black. The vast majority of the people who vote over here, black and white, are Democrats. It's funny how they try to make this into something racial.'

Beverly Bonds of Greensboro agreed.

'This is about right and wrong,' said Bonds, who is also white. 'Voter fraud is voter fraud.'

Push for action

Bonds and Beasley are members of the Democracy Defense League, an organization founded to fight voter fraud in Hale County. They say the indictments are a start.

'It's significant in the sense that we may finally be seeing the criminal justice system get involved in this,' Beasley said.

Probate Judge Leland Avery, who has found himself in the center of the storm at times, agreed.

'I've been talking to the attorney general's office since 1998 about the way they do absentee ballots here,' Avery said. 'I'm grateful to Troy King that he'd come down and investigate.'

He said he's been frustrated at times, but now he feels progress is being made.

'Everybody has been waiting on them to do something about voter fraud,' Avery said.

Some people believe it's been too long coming.

'If the indictments don't get turned into a trial soon, people are going to say, ‘So what?' ' said Ronny Crawford, a member of the Democracy Defense League and chairman of the county's Democratic Executive Committee. 'When's it going to come to fruition?'

People want to see results, Crawford said.

'A guy goes down here and sticks up a gas station and he's in jail in 18 months,' Crawford said. 'This has been under investigation for three and a half years.'

But Bonds observed the proceedings involved in overturning the mayoral election. It is by necessity a lengthy process, she said.

'There are so many facets to absentee ballots,' Bonds said. 'There are so many parts of it that have to be investigated. You have to get handwriting samples for forgery and all of these other details.'

That's why it's essential to change elections laws, making voter fraud harder to commit and penalties for committing it stiffer, Beasley said.

'The word ‘thug' is gender- neutral,' Beasley said. 'When some thug steals a vote that 1.4 million people sacrificed their lives for, that thug deserves far worse than the criminal justice system offers.'

The Democracy Defense League, which has both black and white members, has worked to expand statewide because they say voter fraud is a widespread problem. Complaints have come from Mobile, Baldwin, Jefferson, Monroe, Fayette, Barbour and other counties.

'The reason it's chronic over here is that some of the people who have used illegal means to gain office now sit in positions of public trust,' Beasley said. 'They're in position to make it more difficult to identify voter fraud and they're in position to make it more difficult to prosecute voter fraud.'

He wants any crime committed with the intent of altering an election made a Class A felony. Anyone convicted would serve at least six and a half years, said Beasley, a former agent with the Alabama Bureau of Investigation.

'This is not stealing a car,' Beasley said. 'This goes back to this country being a democratic republic. People have to have trust in their government. People cannot trust their government if they don't have faith and trust in the electoral process.

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ALABAMA ATTORNEY GENERAL KING ANNOUNCES MORE HALE COUNTY VOTER FRAUD CHARGES From: US Fed News Service, Including US State News

Date: March 18, 2008

The Alabama Attorney General issued the following news release:

Attorney General Troy King today announced the arrest of former Hale County Circuit Clerk Gay Nell Tinker for multiple felony charges relating to voter fraud. Tinker, also known as Gay Singleton, was arrested today by agents of the Attorney General's Office and the Hale County Sheriff's Office and taken to the Hale County Jail.

Attorney General King's Office presented evidence to a Hale County grand jury yesterday, resulting in a 13-count indictment* against Tinker. Specifically, the indictment charges Tinker with:

* nine counts of second-degree criminal possession of a forged instrument-an absentee voter affidavit-in violation of Section 13A-9-6 of the Code of Alabama;

* two counts of promoting illegal absentee voting-by intentionally soliciting or otherwise promoting illegal absentee voting -in violation of Section 17-10- 17 of the Code of Alabama; and

* two counts of first-degree perjury, by falsely certifying as to who signed an absentee voter affidavit.

"Vote fraud is a serious crime. It is not a crime against just an individual voter or a particular candidate. It is a crime against democracy, itself. When it is committed - as charged in these indictments - by the very custodian of the election system, a circuit clerk, it is even more grievous," stated Attorney General King.

"So long as we are willing to commit soldiers to fight and die to advance democracy, those soldiers should at least be able to expect those of us they left behind to keep those things they are bleeding for safe back here at home. " No further information about the investigation or about Tinker's alleged crimes other than that stated in the indictment may be released at this time.

If convicted, Tinker faces a maximum penalty of ten years of imprisonment and a fine of up to $5,000 for each count of second-degree possession of a forged instrument, a class C felony; two years of imprisonment and a fine of up to $2,000 for each count of promoting illegal absentee voting, an unclassified felony; and ten years of imprisonment and a fine of up to $5,000 for each count of perjury, a class C felony.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-03   10:43:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All, tell me again why I should vote (#1)

http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2007/11/02/state-senator-named-in-voter-fraud-investigation/

November 2, 2007 State Senator Named in Voter Fraud Investigation Filed under: AL Senate, Misc. AL Politics — Danny @ 9:11 am State Sen. Bobby Singleton (D - Greensboro) and others are the subject of a voter fraud investigation, according to papers filed by Attorney General Troy King. King believes Singleton’s brother-in-law, Circuit Judge Marvin Wiggins, is impeding the investigation and has asked the Alabama Court of Criminal Appeals to remove him from the investigation.

When we learned that Singleton’s wife Gay Nell Tinker was absentee election manager while Singleton was a candidate, and that the mailing address for the return of absentee ballots was her personal P.O. Box, not a courthouse address, we knew that “extraordinarily bad judgment at work” was the best a starry-eyed optimist could hope for, and that it might get a lot worse.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-03   10:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

I'd have no objections if you sat this one out, JT. None at all. I consider your activism here on 4 to be worth more than voting.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-03   11:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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'The reason it's chronic over here is that some of the people who have used illegal means to gain office now sit in positions of public trust,' Beasley said. 'They're in position to make it more difficult to identify voter fraud and they're in position to make it more difficult to prosecute voter fraud.'

He wants any crime committed with the intent of altering an election made a Class A felony. Anyone convicted would serve at least six and a half years, said Beasley, a former agent with the Alabama Bureau of Investigation.

'This is not stealing a car,' Beasley said. 'This goes back to this country being a democratic republic. People have to have trust in their government. People cannot trust their government if they don't have faith and trust in the electoral process.

this is why i still fault Ron Paul for being not only mute on the vote fraud, but even declaring it didn't happen in NH. i know there's some here who disagree with me on this, but, damn, what's the point of running or even having elections at all? doesn't it make any other political issue moot? how can anything be changed without our being able to elect honest representatives?

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christine  posted on  2008-08-03   11:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

absentee election manager while Singleton was a candidate, and that the mailing address for the return of absentee ballots was her personal P.O. Box, not a courthouse address,

sarcastic LOL

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christine  posted on  2008-08-03   11:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

He wants any crime committed with the intent of altering an election made a Class A felony.

Only worth while if they inforce it. But they can't have the masses really vote now can they?


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-08-03   11:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend, buckeye, christine, all (#6)

Google has 38,600 entries on this issue alone. I think it's very fair to extrapolate this story to that of the entire nation, which leaves me cold to the idea of wasting my time. American selections are the envy of 3rd world juntas.

Voter Fraud Spreading in Alabama, Cradle of Civil Rights Movement

by FOXNews.com
Friday, August 1, 2008

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Alabama was the cradle of the civil rights movement, where much of the battle for voting rights was waged more than 40 years ago, but now there are growing allegations of voter fraud across the state.

The claims have surfaced in eight counties in Alabama, and they include allegations that absentee ballots were sold and traded for cash, crack-cocaine and even piles of driveway gravel.

60;They get them, and say, ‘I will give you 40 or 50 dollars,’ so a lot of people are unemployed and will jump for that,61; voter Wanda Sanders said.

Some officials, though, are launching investigations in a move to make sure all votes are not only counted but counted fairly and honestly.

Alabama Attorney General Troy King, a Republican, seized absentee ballots from three primarily black counties after allegations of vote-selling surfaced in the June 3 Democratic primary.

60;We are not going to allow these people to continue to steal elections with impunity. It cannot be tolerated,61; King said.

One election under investigation was won by Perry County Commissioner Albert Turner Jr.

Turner thinks there is voting fraud in his county but denies having anything to do with it.

60;They don’t have one person to say they got paid by Albert Turner,” Turner said. “My work is what got me elected. I take care of my people. I fight for my people. That’s what got me elected, not money.”

Perry County District Attorney Michael Jackson said “some people don57;t see the harm” in selling their vote, 60;not understanding the history of what happened in the 57;50s and 57;60s.61;

In nearby Hale County, three people –- including a former county clerk -– recently were indicted on charges of absentee ballot fraud.

And there have been reports of similar absentee ballot fraud in at least a dozen states across the country in recent years.

60;How easy is it to steal an election using absentee ballots? Very easy, very easy,” said Faye Cochran, of the Democracy Defense League. “The absentee ballot box is the most vulnerable to voter fraud without changing the loopholes our laws allow of this.”

Since the investigations started there have been even more allegations of vote-buying and absentee-ballot abuse.

But Turner says the investigations are little more than a Republican witch hunt to suppress the black vote.

“You go after black people, you go after black Democrats 52; you prosecute them for vote fraud, boom.” he said.

King denies any political motivation.

60;The ability of a great number of Alabamans to participate at all was bought with the blood of the leaders of the civil rights movement in this very state where votes are being bought and sold,” he said. “And we will not allow their memories to be desecrated by anybody.”

If you have a voter fraud story you57;d like to report, e-mail voterfraud@foxnews.com.

FOX News’ Eric Shawn contributed to this report.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-03   12:05:53 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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