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Title: 'Provocative' Mars data shows 'potential for life'--White House alerted by NASA of major announcement soon (World Net Daily)
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Published: Aug 3, 2008
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WND THE FINAL FRONTIER 'Provocative' Mars data shows 'potential for life' White House alerted by NASA of major announcement soon Posted: August 02, 2008 7:10 pm Eastern © 2008 WorldNetDaily Soil-sampling trench dug by Phoenix lander Soil-sampling trench dug by Phoenix lander This week's confirmation by NASA that the Phoenix lander had confirmed the presence of water ice on Mars was just the tip of the iceberg. Sources say other "provocative" and "complex" data, not disclosed in Thursday's announcement and not yet discussed openly by NASA officials associated with the Phoenix program, show that the red planet has "potential for life." So hush-hush have been the latest findings that NASA excluded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory science team for the wet-chemistry instrument that made the findings from the news conference to prevent them from being asked questions before an announcement is made, Aviation Week & Space Technology reported. NASA has briefed the science adviser's office of the White House ahead of what is expected to be a mid-August announcement, although sources said the revelations may not be made public until September. While the announcement of the confirmation of water's presence on Mars was widely reported, scientists were not surprised and had expected the result. "They have discovered water on Mars for the third or fourth time," a senior Mars scientist told Aviation Week. The Microscopy, Electrochemistry and Conductivity Analyzer team, announced last month, following the first of four wet chemistry experiments, that Mars soil chemistry is "Earth-like" and capable of supporting life. Now, following the second MECA soil test, NASA and the University of Arizona are making efforts to keep the findings from being made public until an official announcement is made. (Story continues below) Rather than the mere presence of water, scientists are looking for how water and the Martian soil behave together. This week, after two attempts, the Phoenix scoop successfully deposited a sample of soil and ice into the Thermal and Evolved-Gas Analyzer, where it was heated to 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit so the released gases can be evaluated. Analysis will take several weeks. An earlier electrical short that threatened the TEGA experiments has resolved itself, William Boynton, TEGA principal investigator from the University of Arizona, said. From the beginning, scientists working on the Phoenix project have said that neither the TEGA organic chemistry lab nor the MECA wet chemistry system would be able to detect the presence of life, either current or past, but two microscopes on the MECA analyzer can resolve features as small as 10 nanometers, sufficient to detect bacteria.
Poster Comment: well if its not it the bible this is all the work of the devil.
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#32. To: buckeye (#28)
We were talking about aliens and you asked if aliens could be responsible for 9/11 and I answered yes. I understand your point about it not being productive to discuss it, but... you're the one who asked.
Buckeye, chemtrails exist. Aliens could exist. Fluoride exists. The no-planes theory has enough data to deserve attention.
If aliens are responsible for 9/11, then what are you ever going to do about it? You might as well give up now, because they're like — light years ahead of us technologically, we know that from the get-go since they're here and we're not even out of this solar system. See my point? We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small. SETI probably has the stats to back that up. So why are we even considering a red herring? The chances that people are toying with us are much, much, much higher.
Agreed.
My real problem with the JBS is that I think the Illuminati conspiracy is a little weak. Also, they're afraid to mention Zionists out loud. And it's no wonder.
Aliens could exist. Fluoride exists. The no-planes theory has enough data to deserve attention. That's not the point. They are issues that are used to marginalize the movement as a whole. We should pick one battle that is winnable then move onto the rest of this stuff. Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
Well said, FF.
Perhaps but they are trying to heal from being marginalized for so long. They are having to heal from internal problems as well.
They do exist. They can take many forms. They are not human and can fly without wings. They are angels and demons. There are many more of them than us. They have been fighting before the creation of the world, and do visit Earth regularly. The bible does speak of them. I personally have never seen one, but I don't doubt their existence.
God is always good!
Thanks. No often I venture into these threads.
What good does it do if we stop the NAU and then have another 9/11? We must eliminate the people who did 9/11 and covered up for them from our nation for good. Anything less will be inviting more tyranny and wars.
God is always good!
Yes. I agree. We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small. I don't. SETI probably has the stats to back that up. What credibility does SETI have? So why are we even considering a red herring? I'm not sure it's a red herring. The chances that people are toying with us are much, much, much higher. It's at least much more obvious.
Agreed but you can't do that if you are marginalized.
Relevant to this topic, pursuing problems that are unproven is a waste of resources, as well.
What is the essence of the NeoCon deception? It's that we face various threats, and that they have to be preemptively addressed before anything else. The threats are manufactured (global warming, terrorism — or at least its "unjust, irrational" causes), just like the aliens. Just like chemtrails. Just like just about any other extremist positions taken at the fringes.
Sound logic, although we all came online because of different issues.
Don't get me started. LOL! That's for another thread.
Differences and issues aside the plan should be to get more "Ron Paul"s elected.
We will always have our pet issues and projects. It won't matter if I work on this issue and you on that as long as we come together on the important issue of getting the proper people elected. Sadly McCain and Obama do not fall into the catagory. The biggest issue I believe is vote fraud. We can do NOTHING!!! until that is changed.
The elections are rigged.
Exactly and first order of business is to change that.
Yes. Doesn't mean we can't discuss other issues that interest us. Reasonably.
Reasonably. Agreed. Nor will we always agree on issues.
Chemtrails are real and they do exist. Are you saying they don't?
Why, were you there when he was alive? Your pals the Jews are the ones who wrote about what he said, and a century later the first "gospels" were "found" by Romans who considered themselves "Christian" (actually Catholic). The gospels are supposed letters from his disciples who were devout Jews. Is that the "abundant proof" you're referring to?
So you believe 19 angry arabs brought the US military to its knees on 9/11, and GW Bush and Dick Cheney along with their neocon brethren are being perfectly honest about the entire thing, eh? Uh huh. I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that's up for sale, you can send me the money via PayPal..
Extraterrestrial activity has been with us since before recorded history. There are MANY UNDENIABLE instances of contact from the 1940's up through now. Pilots, both military and commercial, have spotted them, evaded them, and in the case of fighter pilots, fired at them. There have been radar confirmation of the visual sightings, and many various photos and videos, some of which are undeniably authentic. The evidence is overwhelming, yet people like you are afraid to even consider the possiblity that it exists. What makes you think this planet is so special, that there CAN'T be life on other worlds that are far more advanced than our own? Is it because your pastor didn't tell you so?
I think "blue beam" is bullshit meant to divert attention in the event there IS any significant development in the near future. It works especially well with the holy rollers I've noticed.
The enemies of liberty ARE those who deny the very real nature of the damage caused by fluoride, where top microbiologists and biophysicists have stated the dangers posed by fluoridation, yet people like you try to pass it off as akin to worrying about those "precious bodily fluids" mentioned in some arcane old movie. That was a classic psyop in that it conditioned people to ridicule anyone who dared warn them about the dangers they were facing, where those who were trying to pass off poison as a nutrient would be ensured continued success with their plans. You also dismiss any evidence contrary to your religious belief that the official government conspiracy story in regards to 9/11 is true. You lump global warming and UFOs into the mix for added effect. You sir, in my book, are a shill. I see little farmfriend came along to provide you some backup. Gee whiz, why am I not surprised.
I said evidence, I didn't say proof. Dismiss Jesus Christ as the Son of God at your own peril.
God is always good!
So do I, but not the God of any organized religion. The God I believe in is that which created the Universe, and beyond.
Dismiss God himself at YOUR own peril. We are ALL sons and daughters of God, so you see, I don't believe the words of those who killed he who was named Jesus, as it is THEY who wrote the books you call the New Testament. You know, the ROMANS killed Jesus, and it is THEY who started the Roman Catholic Church, who gathered the letters of the apostles and transcribed them, or so it is said. Myself, I look at the acts and deeds of those who claim to be christian, versus their words.
So do I, but not the God of any organized religion. The God I believe in is that which created the Universe, and beyond. Me too. I do try to remain open-minded to all these ideas without fear of the truth or lies. "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
Exactly. You were trying to portray those who view 9/11 as an inside job or who are concerned about chemtrails as nuts, or enemies of liberty purposely derailing those who are fighting the evil NWO. Myself, I think you ARE doing whatever you can to sabatoge any real progress of freedom minded people in any area that the NWO might be concerned about.
Hey, you stole my tag-line font.
I saw your bum.
Sigh, I did no such thing. Really? That's why I spent my 4 of July holiday passing out anti NAU literature. That's why I actually visit my legislative offices fighting Real ID etc. Tell me, other than post here, what do you do?
It was good for me was it good for you?
It was okay.
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"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#33. To: buckeye (#31)
chemtrail/aliens/fluoride/no-planes
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#34. To: wudidiz (#32)
#35. To: buckeye (#22)
This is where the JBS appears to set a good example. People ask for Ron Paul to be more aggressive, but the facts (where provable) are fairly effective when people take the time to work with them.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#36. To: farmfriend (#35)
#37. To: wudidiz, buckeye (#33)
Buckeye, chemtrails exist.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#38. To: farmfriend (#37)
#39. To: buckeye (#36)
My real problem with the JBS is that I think the Illuminati conspiracy is a little weak. Also, they're afraid to mention Zionists out loud. And it's no wonder.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#40. To: buckeye (#34)
We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small.
#41. To: buckeye (#38)
Well said, FF.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#42. To: farmfriend (#37)
Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
#43. To: buckeye (#34)
See my point?
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#44. To: RickyJ (#42)
We must eliminate the people who did 9/11 and covered up for them from our nation for good. Anything less will be inviting more tyranny and wars.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#45. To: farmfriend, RickyJ (#44)
#46. To: RickyJ (#42)
What good does it do if we stop the NAU and then have another 9/11?
#47. To: farmfriend (#37)
(Edited)
Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
#48. To: buckeye, RickyJ (#45)
Relevant to this topic, pursuing problems that are unproven is a waste of resources, as well.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#49. To: buckeye, RickyJ, wudidiz (#46)
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#50. To: Jethro Tull, buckeye, RickyJ, wudidiz, Original_Intent, critter, artisan, Axenolith (#47)
Sound logic, although we all came online because of different issues.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#51. To: farmfriend, all (#50)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#52. To: wudidiz (#51)
The elections are rigged.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#53. To: farmfriend (#52)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#54. To: wudidiz (#53)
Doesn't mean we can't discuss other issues that interest us.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#55. To: buckeye, wudidiz (#33)
Buckeye, chemtrails exist
#56. To: RickyJ (#23)
The evidence he was who he said he was is much more abundant than the evidence of macro-evolution and runaway global warming combined.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: buckeye (#46)
Just like just about any other extremist positions taken at the fringes.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#58. To: buckeye (#7)
The aliens focus (related to 9/11 or not) is a massive distraction intended to immobilize us.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#59. To: buckeye (#1)
Blue beam comes to mind
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#60. To: buckeye, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Uncle Bill, Bill D Berger, aristedeis, honway, swarthyguy (#31)
The enemies of liberty might just be some of the chemtrail/aliens/fluoride/no-planes types.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#61. To: FormerLurker (#56)
Is that the "abundant proof" you're referring to?
#62. To: wudidiz (#11)
I believe in God.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#63. To: FormerLurker, ALL (#60)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#64. To: FormerLurker, buckeye, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Uncle Bill, Bill D Berger, aristedeis, honway, swarthyguy (#60)
I see little farmfriend came along to provide you some backup. Gee whiz, why am I not surprised.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#65. To: RickyJ (#61)
Dismiss Jesus Christ as the Son of God at your own peril.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#66. To: FormerLurker (#62)
I believe in God.
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#67. To: farmfriend, wudidiz, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#64)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#68. To: FormerLurker (#65)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#69. To: farmfriend (#64)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#70. To: FormerLurker (#67)
You were trying to portray those who view 9/11 as an inside job or who are concerned about chemtrails as nuts,
Myself, I think you ARE doing whatever you can to sabatoge any real progress of freedom minded people in any area that the NWO might be concerned about.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#71. To: wudidiz (#69)
I saw your bum.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#72. To: farmfriend (#71)
It was good for me was it good for you?
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
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