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Title: 'Provocative' Mars data shows 'potential for life'--White House alerted by NASA of major announcement soon (World Net Daily)
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WND THE FINAL FRONTIER 'Provocative' Mars data shows 'potential for life' White House alerted by NASA of major announcement soon Posted: August 02, 2008 7:10 pm Eastern © 2008 WorldNetDaily Soil-sampling trench dug by Phoenix lander Soil-sampling trench dug by Phoenix lander This week's confirmation by NASA that the Phoenix lander had confirmed the presence of water ice on Mars was just the tip of the iceberg. Sources say other "provocative" and "complex" data, not disclosed in Thursday's announcement and not yet discussed openly by NASA officials associated with the Phoenix program, show that the red planet has "potential for life." So hush-hush have been the latest findings that NASA excluded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory science team for the wet-chemistry instrument that made the findings from the news conference to prevent them from being asked questions before an announcement is made, Aviation Week & Space Technology reported. NASA has briefed the science adviser's office of the White House ahead of what is expected to be a mid-August announcement, although sources said the revelations may not be made public until September. While the announcement of the confirmation of water's presence on Mars was widely reported, scientists were not surprised and had expected the result. "They have discovered water on Mars for the third or fourth time," a senior Mars scientist told Aviation Week. The Microscopy, Electrochemistry and Conductivity Analyzer team, announced last month, following the first of four wet chemistry experiments, that Mars soil chemistry is "Earth-like" and capable of supporting life. Now, following the second MECA soil test, NASA and the University of Arizona are making efforts to keep the findings from being made public until an official announcement is made. (Story continues below) Rather than the mere presence of water, scientists are looking for how water and the Martian soil behave together. This week, after two attempts, the Phoenix scoop successfully deposited a sample of soil and ice into the Thermal and Evolved-Gas Analyzer, where it was heated to 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit so the released gases can be evaluated. Analysis will take several weeks. An earlier electrical short that threatened the TEGA experiments has resolved itself, William Boynton, TEGA principal investigator from the University of Arizona, said. From the beginning, scientists working on the Phoenix project have said that neither the TEGA organic chemistry lab nor the MECA wet chemistry system would be able to detect the presence of life, either current or past, but two microscopes on the MECA analyzer can resolve features as small as 10 nanometers, sufficient to detect bacteria.
Poster Comment: well if its not it the bible this is all the work of the devil.
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#1. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
Blue beam comes to mind, although this is totally benign information we've all expected. Gets our mind off of important things like the upcoming Iran-American war.
Jerry Falwell or some other Bible thumping loon once said that we should stop space exploration because one of the Psalms says that the Earth belongs to man and the sky to God.
You no doubt are a Biblical expert. Surely you know who the Nephilim are and how that went. Please, enlighten all of us! ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Even if the Bible were to be believed, where does it say that there are no other civilizations across the entire Universe? You mention the Nephelim. Where did it say God created them in Genesis? Where does it mention how he created the angels? You see, there are many things that are overlooked by those who believe in the Bible literally.
You apparently believe in the manifest presence of aliens and global warming? I'm startled! Next question: could aliens have had anything to do with 9/11?
And you apparently believe some man that walked the Earth is the God who created the Universe. Might HE have something to global warming, or with 9/11?
I don't think global warming is man-made, or that we can do anything about it. I definitely blame mankind (namely NORAD, the FAA, and the FBI) for sitting on their hands before and during the 9/11 attacks. The aliens focus (related to 9/11 or not) is a massive distraction intended to immobilize us.
Yes.
Oh no, not you too. Then again, you believe in chem trails.
I believe in God. I can see the chemtrails.
Sure you have. I say the chem trails view of what you're seeing is totally unhelpful in solving the main problems that we have facing us right now. It only helps people to see that nut cases have taken over the liberty movement. I know that's difficult for some people to accept, but it's the truth. The harshest aspect of this is that it may be intentional.
Now that's an interesting thought.
First we need to restore our rightful representation in government. Then we'll solve some of these other questions once we have access via law to information that impacts our health. Before that, we must unite and focus on the core issues of liberty and basic accountability in government. People will use our quick descent into superstition against us.
People will use our quick descent into superstition against us. I fully agree. We have to pick our battles.
Sure you have. Haven't you? I say the chem trails view of what you're seeing is totally unhelpful in solving the main problems that we have facing us right now. I'm not the one who brought up chemtrails. It only helps people to see that nut cases have taken over the liberty movement. I know that's difficult for some people to accept, but it's the truth. Is it? I disagree.
Yes, and they are going to be very difficult all by themselves, each one. And there are enough to last us a long time here. I think we have to concentrate on what we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt. There are too many opportunities to fail if we pursue "instincts" and "inklings," especially if they are delivered in emotional wrappers. We will win if we focus on facts. The enemies of liberty focus on lies and distortions. We must not.
Likewise, fear is the passion of slaves. (Patrick Henry)
Well even in areas where we have "facts" we still have to be careful. We can not give our enemies room to discredit us. Some of these issues do that with or without facts. Everyone, even me, has there pet issues. It is very hard to unite behind one or two specific issues.
What were we talking about again?
Superstition.
This is where the JBS appears to set a good example. People ask for Ron Paul to be more aggressive, but the facts (where provable) are fairly effective when people take the time to work with them.
Yeah, I believe it alright. The evidence he was who he said he was is much more abundant than the evidence of macro-evolution and runaway global warming combined.
God is always good!
Aliens are real alright. They come across our border daily. :)
God is always good!
Is it hot where you are?
It is very hot where I am. It happens every year about this time. Those damn people with their cars and jets. :)
God is always good!
Yeah, and the people inviting them across, paying them to work here, and advocating their legalization are damnable human beings without the slightest trace of lizard genes.
It's not helping at all to frighten people with unprovable facts, or even the slightest exaggeration. Fear is not the proper motivator here. It will not work. It in fact, is a tool that the enemies of liberty understand far better than the typical thought leader in the liberty movement does.
That's not the question I asked though.
It seems the 'enemies of liberty' are the nutcases, not those for liberty.
The enemies of liberty might just be some of the chemtrail/aliens/fluoride/no-planes types. I hope you understand what I'm saying.
We were talking about aliens and you asked if aliens could be responsible for 9/11 and I answered yes. I understand your point about it not being productive to discuss it, but... you're the one who asked.
Buckeye, chemtrails exist. Aliens could exist. Fluoride exists. The no-planes theory has enough data to deserve attention.
If aliens are responsible for 9/11, then what are you ever going to do about it? You might as well give up now, because they're like — light years ahead of us technologically, we know that from the get-go since they're here and we're not even out of this solar system. See my point? We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small. SETI probably has the stats to back that up. So why are we even considering a red herring? The chances that people are toying with us are much, much, much higher.
Agreed.
My real problem with the JBS is that I think the Illuminati conspiracy is a little weak. Also, they're afraid to mention Zionists out loud. And it's no wonder.
Aliens could exist. Fluoride exists. The no-planes theory has enough data to deserve attention. That's not the point. They are issues that are used to marginalize the movement as a whole. We should pick one battle that is winnable then move onto the rest of this stuff. Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
Well said, FF.
Perhaps but they are trying to heal from being marginalized for so long. They are having to heal from internal problems as well.
They do exist. They can take many forms. They are not human and can fly without wings. They are angels and demons. There are many more of them than us. They have been fighting before the creation of the world, and do visit Earth regularly. The bible does speak of them. I personally have never seen one, but I don't doubt their existence.
God is always good!
Thanks. No often I venture into these threads.
What good does it do if we stop the NAU and then have another 9/11? We must eliminate the people who did 9/11 and covered up for them from our nation for good. Anything less will be inviting more tyranny and wars.
God is always good!
Yes. I agree. We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small. I don't. SETI probably has the stats to back that up. What credibility does SETI have? So why are we even considering a red herring? I'm not sure it's a red herring. The chances that people are toying with us are much, much, much higher. It's at least much more obvious.
Agreed but you can't do that if you are marginalized.
Relevant to this topic, pursuing problems that are unproven is a waste of resources, as well.
What is the essence of the NeoCon deception? It's that we face various threats, and that they have to be preemptively addressed before anything else. The threats are manufactured (global warming, terrorism — or at least its "unjust, irrational" causes), just like the aliens. Just like chemtrails. Just like just about any other extremist positions taken at the fringes.
Sound logic, although we all came online because of different issues.
Don't get me started. LOL! That's for another thread.
Differences and issues aside the plan should be to get more "Ron Paul"s elected.
We will always have our pet issues and projects. It won't matter if I work on this issue and you on that as long as we come together on the important issue of getting the proper people elected. Sadly McCain and Obama do not fall into the catagory. The biggest issue I believe is vote fraud. We can do NOTHING!!! until that is changed.
The elections are rigged.
Exactly and first order of business is to change that.
Yes. Doesn't mean we can't discuss other issues that interest us. Reasonably.
Reasonably. Agreed. Nor will we always agree on issues.
Chemtrails are real and they do exist. Are you saying they don't?
Why, were you there when he was alive? Your pals the Jews are the ones who wrote about what he said, and a century later the first "gospels" were "found" by Romans who considered themselves "Christian" (actually Catholic). The gospels are supposed letters from his disciples who were devout Jews. Is that the "abundant proof" you're referring to?
So you believe 19 angry arabs brought the US military to its knees on 9/11, and GW Bush and Dick Cheney along with their neocon brethren are being perfectly honest about the entire thing, eh? Uh huh. I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that's up for sale, you can send me the money via PayPal..
Extraterrestrial activity has been with us since before recorded history. There are MANY UNDENIABLE instances of contact from the 1940's up through now. Pilots, both military and commercial, have spotted them, evaded them, and in the case of fighter pilots, fired at them. There have been radar confirmation of the visual sightings, and many various photos and videos, some of which are undeniably authentic. The evidence is overwhelming, yet people like you are afraid to even consider the possiblity that it exists. What makes you think this planet is so special, that there CAN'T be life on other worlds that are far more advanced than our own? Is it because your pastor didn't tell you so?
I think "blue beam" is bullshit meant to divert attention in the event there IS any significant development in the near future. It works especially well with the holy rollers I've noticed.
The enemies of liberty ARE those who deny the very real nature of the damage caused by fluoride, where top microbiologists and biophysicists have stated the dangers posed by fluoridation, yet people like you try to pass it off as akin to worrying about those "precious bodily fluids" mentioned in some arcane old movie. That was a classic psyop in that it conditioned people to ridicule anyone who dared warn them about the dangers they were facing, where those who were trying to pass off poison as a nutrient would be ensured continued success with their plans. You also dismiss any evidence contrary to your religious belief that the official government conspiracy story in regards to 9/11 is true. You lump global warming and UFOs into the mix for added effect. You sir, in my book, are a shill. I see little farmfriend came along to provide you some backup. Gee whiz, why am I not surprised.
I said evidence, I didn't say proof. Dismiss Jesus Christ as the Son of God at your own peril.
God is always good!
So do I, but not the God of any organized religion. The God I believe in is that which created the Universe, and beyond.
Dismiss God himself at YOUR own peril. We are ALL sons and daughters of God, so you see, I don't believe the words of those who killed he who was named Jesus, as it is THEY who wrote the books you call the New Testament. You know, the ROMANS killed Jesus, and it is THEY who started the Roman Catholic Church, who gathered the letters of the apostles and transcribed them, or so it is said. Myself, I look at the acts and deeds of those who claim to be christian, versus their words.
So do I, but not the God of any organized religion. The God I believe in is that which created the Universe, and beyond. Me too. I do try to remain open-minded to all these ideas without fear of the truth or lies. "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
Exactly. You were trying to portray those who view 9/11 as an inside job or who are concerned about chemtrails as nuts, or enemies of liberty purposely derailing those who are fighting the evil NWO. Myself, I think you ARE doing whatever you can to sabatoge any real progress of freedom minded people in any area that the NWO might be concerned about.
Hey, you stole my tag-line font.
I saw your bum.
Sigh, I did no such thing. Really? That's why I spent my 4 of July holiday passing out anti NAU literature. That's why I actually visit my legislative offices fighting Real ID etc. Tell me, other than post here, what do you do?
It was good for me was it good for you?
It was okay.
Damn I'll have to try harder next time.
I wasn't complaining. chemtrails exist
I changed my tag-line. Again. How'd ya like them apples? Huh? Hey? That's right. Put that in your pipe 'n' smoke it.
I saw it first... :)
None of your business.
Then I suggest you stop throwing stones.
Now mine's bigger.
It's darker too, but that goes hand in hand from what I've heard...
Oh, so if I don't tell you exactly who I am or what I do, then everything you say must be true, and everything I say must be a lie, right?
I think you enjoy twisting what I say, making it into something it isn't.
I don't recall writing that. I suggested that they might not be what Wud thinks they are. Here's a plan for getting an answer:
Maybe you should stick to discussing your own opinions.
I'd say that the common ground farmfiend and I have is mutually despising our media overlords who have told us to:
And there in lies victory, finding the common ground and working together rather than treating each other as enemies. Divide and conquor is what "they" want. Why give it to them.
What unites us is freedom. Most of the rest is dross.
I don't recall writing that. I suggested that they might not be what Wud thinks they are. You said you weren't surprised that I think aliens could have been involved in 9/11 because I believe in chemtrails. They are aerosol spraying with particles of heavy metals among other things. Do you disagree? Here's a plan for getting an answer: 1. Get a liberty-minded government in place. 2. Appeal to the government to appoint a commission of experts to study the problem. In parallel, you can conduct your own research, if you're qualified. Get it in front of as many other experts as possible for their commentary. I agree with that although I don't have a lot of faith that it will work. Just to clarify about the aliens. There is enough evidence that they exist that I don't think it's wise to rule out the possibility that they do. Therefore, given that they could be here/have been here then it stands to reason that they could have been involved in 9/11. I don't think there's anything really wrong with discussing it. Especially on this forum and on this thread.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080804/D92BO4A00.html Aug 4, 6:23 PM (ET) By ALICIA CHANG LOS ANGELES (AP) - Scientists say the Phoenix spacecraft has found a substance in the Martian soil that might be detrimental to possible life. If confirmed, it could mean the soil may not be as friendly as once thought. Scientists previously reported that the soil where Phoenix landed in May was Earth-like, containing nutrients such as magnesium, sodium and chloride. The latest lab tests show the presence of an oxidizing substance. NASA is investigating whether the substance could have gotten there by contamination.
I don't think too many people in their right minds believe that they are here for that reason. They are here for their own, as of yet unknown, reasons. They might be time travelers, or have been here for as long as we have. They might want to eat us, or any combination of the above plus more, as there could well be various civilizations visiting us, or aware of us. You fit the mold of the "right thinking" person, who thinks he's right, and anyone that disagrees with him is wrong. I find your manner of "debate" curious, to say the least. You say you and farmfriend share a common ground. Well, that could well be true, but not for the reasons you describe.
And who exactly is "them"?
i liked your, "Don't fall asleep on the bus." it made me laugh.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
Hahahaha... Thank you.
Dear me, check out the chick getting eaten.
thanks for the humor.
What I meant was that you believe in chemtrails as part of the depop agenda. Of course there are chemtrails. Every contrail would certainly have a variety of chemicals in it. Our world is comprised of chemicals.
hunnerd
You subtly evaded the question. Again.
Do you disagree? I just have one question for you, Wud: what are you going to do about it, if you believe chemtrails are depop tools? I'll look for your answer, but after that, I will have run out of time to spend on this topic.
I'd be happy to answer your question. Could you answer mine first? Do you realize that chemtrails are aerosol spraying and not from engine exhaust?
No response.
Please feel free to let me know if you change your mind.
No problem, Wud.
:-)
#2. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
well if its not it the bible this is all the work of the devil.
#3. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
#4. To: Rotara (#3)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#5. To: FormerLurker, nobody (#4)
#6. To: buckeye (#5)
You apparently believe in the manifest presence of aliens and global warming? I'm startled! Next question: could aliens have had anything to do with 9/11?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#7. To: FormerLurker (#6)
#8. To: buckeye, FormerLurker, nobody (#5)
(Edited)
...could aliens have had anything to do with 9/11?
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is. Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature. Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#9. To: wudidiz (#8)
#10. To: buckeye, wudidiz (#9)
Oh no, not you too. Then again, you believe in chem trails.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#11. To: buckeye (#9)
(Edited)
...you believe in chem trails.
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is. Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature. Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#12. To: wudidiz (#11)
#13. To: buckeye, wudidiz, Original_Intent (#12)
The harshest aspect of this is that it may be intentional.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#14. To: farmfriend (#13)
#15. To: buckeye (#14)
First we need to restore our rightful representation in government. Then we'll solve some of these other questions once we have access via law to information that impacts our health. Before that, we must unite and focus on the core issues of liberty and basic accountability in government.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#16. To: buckeye (#12)
(Edited)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#17. To: farmfriend (#15)
#18. To: wudidiz (#16)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is. Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature. Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#19. To: buckeye (#17)
The enemies of liberty focus on lies and distortions. We must not
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#20. To: buckeye (#18)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#21. To: wudidiz (#20)
#22. To: farmfriend (#19)
#23. To: FormerLurker (#6)
(Edited)
And you apparently believe some man that walked the Earth is the God who created the Universe.
#24. To: buckeye (#7)
The aliens focus (related to 9/11 or not) is a massive distraction intended to immobilize us.
#25. To: buckeye (#21)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#26. To: wudidiz (#25)
#27. To: RickyJ (#24)
Aliens are real alright. They come across our border daily. :)
#28. To: wudidiz (#16)
Is it?
#29. To: buckeye (#28)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#30. To: buckeye (#29)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#31. To: wudidiz (#30)
#32. To: buckeye (#28)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#33. To: buckeye (#31)
chemtrail/aliens/fluoride/no-planes
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#34. To: wudidiz (#32)
#35. To: buckeye (#22)
This is where the JBS appears to set a good example. People ask for Ron Paul to be more aggressive, but the facts (where provable) are fairly effective when people take the time to work with them.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#36. To: farmfriend (#35)
#37. To: wudidiz, buckeye (#33)
Buckeye, chemtrails exist.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#38. To: farmfriend (#37)
#39. To: buckeye (#36)
My real problem with the JBS is that I think the Illuminati conspiracy is a little weak. Also, they're afraid to mention Zionists out loud. And it's no wonder.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#40. To: buckeye (#34)
We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small.
#41. To: buckeye (#38)
Well said, FF.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#42. To: farmfriend (#37)
Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
#43. To: buckeye (#34)
See my point?
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#44. To: RickyJ (#42)
We must eliminate the people who did 9/11 and covered up for them from our nation for good. Anything less will be inviting more tyranny and wars.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#45. To: farmfriend, RickyJ (#44)
#46. To: RickyJ (#42)
What good does it do if we stop the NAU and then have another 9/11?
#47. To: farmfriend (#37)
(Edited)
Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
#48. To: buckeye, RickyJ (#45)
Relevant to this topic, pursuing problems that are unproven is a waste of resources, as well.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#49. To: buckeye, RickyJ, wudidiz (#46)
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#50. To: Jethro Tull, buckeye, RickyJ, wudidiz, Original_Intent, critter, artisan, Axenolith (#47)
Sound logic, although we all came online because of different issues.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#51. To: farmfriend, all (#50)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#52. To: wudidiz (#51)
The elections are rigged.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#53. To: farmfriend (#52)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#54. To: wudidiz (#53)
Doesn't mean we can't discuss other issues that interest us.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#55. To: buckeye, wudidiz (#33)
Buckeye, chemtrails exist
#56. To: RickyJ (#23)
The evidence he was who he said he was is much more abundant than the evidence of macro-evolution and runaway global warming combined.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: buckeye (#46)
Just like just about any other extremist positions taken at the fringes.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#58. To: buckeye (#7)
The aliens focus (related to 9/11 or not) is a massive distraction intended to immobilize us.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#59. To: buckeye (#1)
Blue beam comes to mind
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#60. To: buckeye, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Uncle Bill, Bill D Berger, aristedeis, honway, swarthyguy (#31)
The enemies of liberty might just be some of the chemtrail/aliens/fluoride/no-planes types.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#61. To: FormerLurker (#56)
Is that the "abundant proof" you're referring to?
#62. To: wudidiz (#11)
I believe in God.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#63. To: FormerLurker, ALL (#60)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#64. To: FormerLurker, buckeye, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Uncle Bill, Bill D Berger, aristedeis, honway, swarthyguy (#60)
I see little farmfriend came along to provide you some backup. Gee whiz, why am I not surprised.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#65. To: RickyJ (#61)
Dismiss Jesus Christ as the Son of God at your own peril.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#66. To: FormerLurker (#62)
I believe in God.
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#67. To: farmfriend, wudidiz, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#64)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#68. To: FormerLurker (#65)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#69. To: farmfriend (#64)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#70. To: FormerLurker (#67)
You were trying to portray those who view 9/11 as an inside job or who are concerned about chemtrails as nuts,
Myself, I think you ARE doing whatever you can to sabatoge any real progress of freedom minded people in any area that the NWO might be concerned about.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#71. To: wudidiz (#69)
I saw your bum.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#72. To: farmfriend (#71)
It was good for me was it good for you?
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#73. To: wudidiz (#72)
It was okay.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#74. To: farmfriend (#73)
""There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#75. To: All (#74)
""There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#76. To: wudidiz (#75)
Put that in your pipe 'n' smoke it.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#77. To: wudidiz (#68)
Hey, you stole my tag-line font.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#78. To: farmfriend (#70)
Tell me, other than post here, what do you do?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#79. To: FormerLurker (#78)
None of your business.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#80. To: FormerLurker (#77)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#81. To: wudidiz (#80)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#82. To: farmfriend (#79)
Then I suggest you stop throwing stones.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#83. To: FormerLurker (#82)
Oh, so if I don't tell you exactly who I am or what I do, then everything you say must be true, and everything I say must be a lie, right?
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#84. To: TwentyTwelve, wudidiz (#55)
Are you saying [chemtrails] don't?
In parallel, you can conduct your own research, if you're qualified. Get it in front of as many other experts as possible for their commentary.
#85. To: FormerLurker (#57)
I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that's up for sale, you can send me the money via PayPal..
#86. To: FormerLurker, farmfriend (#64)
We've both decoded the message as "prepare to accept slavery."
#87. To: buckeye, FormerLurker (#86)
(Edited)
I'd say that the common ground farmfiend and I have is...
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#88. To: farmfriend (#87)
#89. To: buckeye, TwentyTwelve (#84)
(TT) Are you saying [chemtrails] don't?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#90. To: gengis gandhi (#0)
#91. To: buckeye, farmfriend, wudidiz (#86)
(Edited)
and to dream of aliens uniting us under one banner of leadership
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#92. To: farmfriend (#87)
Divide and conquor is what "they" want. Why give it to them.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#93. To: wudidiz (#75)
#94. To: christine (#93)
DON'T FALL ASLEEP ON THE BUS
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#95. To: christine (#93)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#96. To: FormerLurker, farmfriend (#92)
And who exactly is "them"?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#97. To: FormerLurker (#96)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#98. To: wudidiz (#96)
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#99. To: wudidiz (#89)
You said you weren't surprised that I think aliens could have been involved in 9/11 because I believe in chemtrails.
#100. To: buckeye (#99)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#101. To: buckeye (#99)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#102. To: buckeye, all (#99)
They are aerosol spraying with particles of heavy metals among other things.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#103. To: wudidiz, angle (#102)
#104. To: buckeye (#103)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#105. To: wudidiz (#104)
#106. To: buckeye (#105)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#107. To: wudidiz (#106)
#108. To: buckeye (#107)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
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