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Title: 'Provocative' Mars data shows 'potential for life'--White House alerted by NASA of major announcement soon (World Net Daily)
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Published: Aug 3, 2008
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WND THE FINAL FRONTIER 'Provocative' Mars data shows 'potential for life' White House alerted by NASA of major announcement soon Posted: August 02, 2008 7:10 pm Eastern © 2008 WorldNetDaily Soil-sampling trench dug by Phoenix lander Soil-sampling trench dug by Phoenix lander This week's confirmation by NASA that the Phoenix lander had confirmed the presence of water ice on Mars was just the tip of the iceberg. Sources say other "provocative" and "complex" data, not disclosed in Thursday's announcement and not yet discussed openly by NASA officials associated with the Phoenix program, show that the red planet has "potential for life." So hush-hush have been the latest findings that NASA excluded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory science team for the wet-chemistry instrument that made the findings from the news conference to prevent them from being asked questions before an announcement is made, Aviation Week & Space Technology reported. NASA has briefed the science adviser's office of the White House ahead of what is expected to be a mid-August announcement, although sources said the revelations may not be made public until September. While the announcement of the confirmation of water's presence on Mars was widely reported, scientists were not surprised and had expected the result. "They have discovered water on Mars for the third or fourth time," a senior Mars scientist told Aviation Week. The Microscopy, Electrochemistry and Conductivity Analyzer team, announced last month, following the first of four wet chemistry experiments, that Mars soil chemistry is "Earth-like" and capable of supporting life. Now, following the second MECA soil test, NASA and the University of Arizona are making efforts to keep the findings from being made public until an official announcement is made. (Story continues below) Rather than the mere presence of water, scientists are looking for how water and the Martian soil behave together. This week, after two attempts, the Phoenix scoop successfully deposited a sample of soil and ice into the Thermal and Evolved-Gas Analyzer, where it was heated to 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit so the released gases can be evaluated. Analysis will take several weeks. An earlier electrical short that threatened the TEGA experiments has resolved itself, William Boynton, TEGA principal investigator from the University of Arizona, said. From the beginning, scientists working on the Phoenix project have said that neither the TEGA organic chemistry lab nor the MECA wet chemistry system would be able to detect the presence of life, either current or past, but two microscopes on the MECA analyzer can resolve features as small as 10 nanometers, sufficient to detect bacteria.
Poster Comment: well if its not it the bible this is all the work of the devil.
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#8. To: buckeye, FormerLurker, nobody (#5)
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Yes.
Oh no, not you too. Then again, you believe in chem trails.
I believe in God. I can see the chemtrails.
Sure you have. I say the chem trails view of what you're seeing is totally unhelpful in solving the main problems that we have facing us right now. It only helps people to see that nut cases have taken over the liberty movement. I know that's difficult for some people to accept, but it's the truth. The harshest aspect of this is that it may be intentional.
Now that's an interesting thought.
First we need to restore our rightful representation in government. Then we'll solve some of these other questions once we have access via law to information that impacts our health. Before that, we must unite and focus on the core issues of liberty and basic accountability in government. People will use our quick descent into superstition against us.
People will use our quick descent into superstition against us. I fully agree. We have to pick our battles.
Sure you have. Haven't you? I say the chem trails view of what you're seeing is totally unhelpful in solving the main problems that we have facing us right now. I'm not the one who brought up chemtrails. It only helps people to see that nut cases have taken over the liberty movement. I know that's difficult for some people to accept, but it's the truth. Is it? I disagree.
Yes, and they are going to be very difficult all by themselves, each one. And there are enough to last us a long time here. I think we have to concentrate on what we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt. There are too many opportunities to fail if we pursue "instincts" and "inklings," especially if they are delivered in emotional wrappers. We will win if we focus on facts. The enemies of liberty focus on lies and distortions. We must not.
Likewise, fear is the passion of slaves. (Patrick Henry)
Well even in areas where we have "facts" we still have to be careful. We can not give our enemies room to discredit us. Some of these issues do that with or without facts. Everyone, even me, has there pet issues. It is very hard to unite behind one or two specific issues.
What were we talking about again?
Superstition.
This is where the JBS appears to set a good example. People ask for Ron Paul to be more aggressive, but the facts (where provable) are fairly effective when people take the time to work with them.
Yeah, I believe it alright. The evidence he was who he said he was is much more abundant than the evidence of macro-evolution and runaway global warming combined.
God is always good!
Aliens are real alright. They come across our border daily. :)
God is always good!
Is it hot where you are?
It is very hot where I am. It happens every year about this time. Those damn people with their cars and jets. :)
God is always good!
Yeah, and the people inviting them across, paying them to work here, and advocating their legalization are damnable human beings without the slightest trace of lizard genes.
It's not helping at all to frighten people with unprovable facts, or even the slightest exaggeration. Fear is not the proper motivator here. It will not work. It in fact, is a tool that the enemies of liberty understand far better than the typical thought leader in the liberty movement does.
That's not the question I asked though.
It seems the 'enemies of liberty' are the nutcases, not those for liberty.
The enemies of liberty might just be some of the chemtrail/aliens/fluoride/no-planes types. I hope you understand what I'm saying.
We were talking about aliens and you asked if aliens could be responsible for 9/11 and I answered yes. I understand your point about it not being productive to discuss it, but... you're the one who asked.
Buckeye, chemtrails exist. Aliens could exist. Fluoride exists. The no-planes theory has enough data to deserve attention.
If aliens are responsible for 9/11, then what are you ever going to do about it? You might as well give up now, because they're like — light years ahead of us technologically, we know that from the get-go since they're here and we're not even out of this solar system. See my point? We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small. SETI probably has the stats to back that up. So why are we even considering a red herring? The chances that people are toying with us are much, much, much higher.
Agreed.
My real problem with the JBS is that I think the Illuminati conspiracy is a little weak. Also, they're afraid to mention Zionists out loud. And it's no wonder.
Aliens could exist. Fluoride exists. The no-planes theory has enough data to deserve attention. That's not the point. They are issues that are used to marginalize the movement as a whole. We should pick one battle that is winnable then move onto the rest of this stuff. Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
Well said, FF.
Perhaps but they are trying to heal from being marginalized for so long. They are having to heal from internal problems as well.
They do exist. They can take many forms. They are not human and can fly without wings. They are angels and demons. There are many more of them than us. They have been fighting before the creation of the world, and do visit Earth regularly. The bible does speak of them. I personally have never seen one, but I don't doubt their existence.
God is always good!
Thanks. No often I venture into these threads.
What good does it do if we stop the NAU and then have another 9/11? We must eliminate the people who did 9/11 and covered up for them from our nation for good. Anything less will be inviting more tyranny and wars.
God is always good!
Yes. I agree. We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small. I don't. SETI probably has the stats to back that up. What credibility does SETI have? So why are we even considering a red herring? I'm not sure it's a red herring. The chances that people are toying with us are much, much, much higher. It's at least much more obvious.
Agreed but you can't do that if you are marginalized.
Relevant to this topic, pursuing problems that are unproven is a waste of resources, as well.
What is the essence of the NeoCon deception? It's that we face various threats, and that they have to be preemptively addressed before anything else. The threats are manufactured (global warming, terrorism — or at least its "unjust, irrational" causes), just like the aliens. Just like chemtrails. Just like just about any other extremist positions taken at the fringes.
Sound logic, although we all came online because of different issues.
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"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is. Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature. Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#9. To: wudidiz (#8)
#10. To: buckeye, wudidiz (#9)
Oh no, not you too. Then again, you believe in chem trails.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#11. To: buckeye (#9)
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...you believe in chem trails.
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is. Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature. Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#12. To: wudidiz (#11)
#13. To: buckeye, wudidiz, Original_Intent (#12)
The harshest aspect of this is that it may be intentional.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#14. To: farmfriend (#13)
#15. To: buckeye (#14)
First we need to restore our rightful representation in government. Then we'll solve some of these other questions once we have access via law to information that impacts our health. Before that, we must unite and focus on the core issues of liberty and basic accountability in government.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#16. To: buckeye (#12)
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"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#17. To: farmfriend (#15)
#18. To: wudidiz (#16)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is. Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature. Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#19. To: buckeye (#17)
The enemies of liberty focus on lies and distortions. We must not
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#20. To: buckeye (#18)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#21. To: wudidiz (#20)
#22. To: farmfriend (#19)
#23. To: FormerLurker (#6)
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And you apparently believe some man that walked the Earth is the God who created the Universe.
#24. To: buckeye (#7)
The aliens focus (related to 9/11 or not) is a massive distraction intended to immobilize us.
#25. To: buckeye (#21)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#26. To: wudidiz (#25)
#27. To: RickyJ (#24)
Aliens are real alright. They come across our border daily. :)
#28. To: wudidiz (#16)
Is it?
#29. To: buckeye (#28)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#30. To: buckeye (#29)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#31. To: wudidiz (#30)
#32. To: buckeye (#28)
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#33. To: buckeye (#31)
chemtrail/aliens/fluoride/no-planes
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#34. To: wudidiz (#32)
#35. To: buckeye (#22)
This is where the JBS appears to set a good example. People ask for Ron Paul to be more aggressive, but the facts (where provable) are fairly effective when people take the time to work with them.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#36. To: farmfriend (#35)
#37. To: wudidiz, buckeye (#33)
Buckeye, chemtrails exist.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#38. To: farmfriend (#37)
#39. To: buckeye (#36)
My real problem with the JBS is that I think the Illuminati conspiracy is a little weak. Also, they're afraid to mention Zionists out loud. And it's no wonder.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#40. To: buckeye (#34)
We already know that even if aliens exist, the likelihood that they would visit us is very small.
#41. To: buckeye (#38)
Well said, FF.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#42. To: farmfriend (#37)
Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
#43. To: buckeye (#34)
See my point?
"Make religion attractive, make good men wish it were true, and then show that it is.
Worthy of reverence because it really understands human nature.
Attractive because it promises true good." ~ Pascal
#44. To: RickyJ (#42)
We must eliminate the people who did 9/11 and covered up for them from our nation for good. Anything less will be inviting more tyranny and wars.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#45. To: farmfriend, RickyJ (#44)
#46. To: RickyJ (#42)
What good does it do if we stop the NAU and then have another 9/11?
#47. To: farmfriend (#37)
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Example: what good does it do us to say win on chem trails if we lose on NAU?
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