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Title: Mexican’s Death Bares a Town’s Ethnic Tension
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NYT
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/05/u ... tml?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
Published: Aug 5, 2008
Author: SEAN D. HAMILL
Post Date: 2008-08-05 10:46:58 by CAPPSMADNESS
Keywords: None
Views: 216
Comments: 14
SHENANDOAH, Pa. — Crystal Dillman knows that four teenagers have been charged in the death of her fiancé, Luis Ramirez, that the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department is monitoring the case and that most people in this small town in the Appalachian Mountains believe it was a horrible crime. But Ms. Dillman, the mother of Mr. Ramirez’s two young children, is not sure justice will prevail. “I think they might get off,” she said of the four teenagers, “because Luis was an illegal Mexican and these are ‘all-American boys’ on the football team who get good grades, or whatever they’re saying about them. They’ll find some way to let them go.” The case has raised similar concerns among Latinos across the country. “For many Latinos, this is a case of enough is enough,” said Gladys Limón, a staff lawyer for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. “And it can help us get attention to the wider issue that this is happening all over the country, not just to illegal immigrants, but legal, and anyone who is perceived to be Latino.” Mr. Ramirez, 25, who had been in the country illegally for six years, picking crops and working in factories, died July 14 from head injuries received two days earlier. Investigators said he had gotten into a fight with a group of teenage boys — most or all of them members of the town’s high school football team, the Blue Devils — who left him unconscious in a residential street, foaming at the mouth. Exactly what happened during the fight is still hotly debated on Internet message boards in Shen’doh, as the town is called, with some saying it was just a street fight that went bad, and others claiming the teenagers singled out a Mexican immigrant for a beating and made anti-Mexican remarks. Since Mr. Ramirez’s death, this town of 5,600 has been bitterly divided over the case, illuminating ethnic tensions that surprised town leaders. “I’ve heard things like, ‘We don’t want to send our kids back to school because we’re afraid people don’t like Mexicans,’ ” Mayor Thomas O’Neill said. “That’s shocking to me. That is not the Shenandoah I know.” Prosecutors have charged Brandon Piekarski, 16, and Collin Walsh, 17, with homicide, ethnic intimidation and other counts in adult court, though their lawyers are trying to have the case moved to juvenile court. Derrick Donchak, 18, was charged with aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation and other counts, including providing liquor to the other boys on the night of the confrontation. All were members of the football team; Mr. Donchak was its starting quarterback. A 17-year-old, whose name has not been released, was charged in juvenile court with aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation and other charges. They have all pleaded not guilty. After anthracite coal was discovered near the town in the late 1800s, immigrants poured in, mainly from Europe. The hamlet grew to a borough of 25,000 before the mines started to close. The immigrant groups largely got along, but they also felt the need to ethnically divide not just their churches — some of which are still considered “the Italian church” or “the Irish church” — but also the town’s volunteer fire companies. The town’s biggest festival every year is Heritage Days near the end of August, when the major ethnic groups, among them the Lithuanians, Irish, Italians, Greeks and, more recently, Mexicans, put floats in a parade and sell ethnic food from booths. Mr. Ramirez’s death has also reignited a regional debate over immigration that began two years ago when the town of Hazleton, about 20 miles from Shenandoah, enacted an ordinance that sought to discourage people from hiring or renting to illegal immigrants. At the time, Shenandoah, whose Hispanic population has grown to about 10 percent, from 2.8 percent in 2000, considered a similar ordinance but held off after Hazleton was sued. Even then, there were signs of tension. After the debate over the Hazleton ordinance, Shenandoah’s Mexican community pulled out of Heritage Days in 2006. “They just didn’t feel comfortable then,” said Flor Gomez, whose family runs a Mexican restaurant in town. Many people believe the debate fueled by Hazleton’s actions helped create the environment that led to Mr. Ramirez’s death. “Clearly there were a lot of factors here,” said Ms. Limón, of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, which has been helping Ms. Dillman. “But I do believe that the inflammatory rhetoric in the immigration debate does have a correlation with increased violence against Latinos.” {read the rest at the link) 
Crystal Dillman with a photograph of her and her fiancé, Luis Ramirez, an illegal immigrant beaten to death in Shenandoah, Pa. 
Brandon Piekarski, 16, left, and Collin Walsh, 17, right, were charged with homicide, and Derrick Donchak, 18, center, with lesser counts in the beating death in Shenandoah, Pa. of Luis Ramirez, an illegal immigrant.
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#1. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#0)
Sucker.
The town is trying to reach out to them, said Mayor O’Neill, who said he still could not believe the fear some residents had expressed to him.
| The answer is still "no". |
#2. To: Tauzero (#1)
When will the NYT and other MSM rags run with these stories?
#3. To: Tauzero (#1)
I do not understand why we pander to illegals - they are not American residents, and yet they are treated better than our own citizens in most (if not all) cases - it drives me batsh*t crazy!
#4. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#0) (Edited)
If they are afraid, the Mexicans should move, or adjust to the majority in order to minimize the occurrence of such incidents. If adjusting means they can't "be themselves", too damn bad. They can adjust, or have adjusting done for them. When my wife was a young girl, some little darlings in the small town in which she grew up nearly ripped hear earrings completely off. While I wouldn't wish that on anyone, especially a child, if her father had half a brain -- which he does -- he had to know that such an incident might happen to his mixed child long before he chose to move there and raise his family there. If the Mexicans wish to preserve the good reasons why they moved there in the first place, they need to suck it up.
| The answer is still "no". |
#5. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#0)
To hell with Crystal Dillman, she made her bed when she hooked up with a mexicon.
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#6. To: Tauzero, noone222, Rotara, CAPPSMADNESS (#1)
I once met half a dozen public school officials from Fresno, California who told me that young white girls came to them all the time complaining that the Mexican boys threatened to cut their face if they did not have sex with Mexican boys. The administrators including whites and Mexicans all said that they told the girls to have sex with the boys. I asked what they would do if a white girl dared to file a rape complaint with the police. They all agreed that they would flunk her out of school so she couldn't go to college. Only a racist would file a rape complaint.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
#7. To: X-15 (#5)
You are correct. And thanks for the link. I had missed it.
To hell with Crystal Dillman, she made her bed when she hooked up with a mexicon.
| The answer is still "no". |
#8. To: Tauzero, X-15 (#7)
Don't ya'll think that the baseline problem is with the fedgov that invited them here in the first place??
#9. To: Horse (#6)
URSHTNME
I once met half a dozen public school officials from Fresno, California who told me that young white girls came to them all the time complaining that the Mexican boys threatened to cut their face if they did not have sex with Mexican boys. The administrators including whites and Mexicans all said that they told the girls to have sex with the boys. I asked what they would do if a white girl dared to file a rape complaint with the police. They all agreed that they would flunk her out of school so she couldn't go to college. Only a racist would file a rape complaint.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#10. To: Lady X (#8)
I hold the NAUers in corp.gov and those Traitors employing them to socialize costs and private maximum illicit profits most responsible, including the quisling governments of each of the 3 (formerly) sovereign nations. ;-)
Don't ya'll think that the baseline problem is with the fedgov that invited them here in the first place??
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#11. To: Lady X, X-15 (#8)
No, the baseline problem is all the honkies like my father who (once) trusted their government when they were told the civil rights act would not result in quotas and the immigration act would not greatly change the country's demographics. The only way to take control of your life is to take responsibility. Now you may be asking, indirectly, "Can't we have freedom and interracial marriages without social stigma?" The answer is no. (Unless you marry up.)
Don't ya'll think that the baseline problem is with the fedgov that invited them here in the first place??
| The answer is still "no". |
#12. To: Lady X (#8)
Yes. Bush is fulfilling Ted Kennedy's fervent dream of a non-white majority population in America.
Don't ya'll think that the baseline problem is with the fedgov that invited them here in the first place??
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#13. To: Rotara (#9)
No. I was not kidding. White people are a persecuted minority in many parts of California. There was a recent post on demographic changes in LA from 1940 to present day. I had thought of commenting and saying that if they subtracted out the Jews from Malibu and Beverly Hills, there would not be any white enclaves remaining. A couple year ago I had a friend who was married to a Jewish man. Her 11 year- old daighter had so many rape threats from non-whites in Sunnyvale California (near San Jose)that she had to take her daughter to the man in charge of Security for Jews in the local area. Both my friend and her daughter are beautiful blondes. My friend was not Jewish but her husband was. She took her daughter with her and the man in charge of Jewish Security liked her and her daughter so much that he decided to do what he could to protect the 11 year-old from really serious rape threats. That worked for awhile. She and her husband eventually moved from Sunnyvale to Cupertino where the homes were $900,000 at that time and the neighbors are either white or Chinese. The schools are good and bad students talk their parents into moving to easier school districts.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
#14. To: Lady X (#8)
YEP, more specifically the baseline problem is with the fed reserve ... the population's addiction to debt based monetary systems that forfeit liberty to that control which is exercised through laws of commerce to the exclusion of CONstitutional restraints.
Don't ya'll think that the baseline problem is with the fedgov
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.
De La Boétie
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