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Title: Thou Shalt Not Disappoint Her
Source: The No Nonsense Man
URL Source: http://thenononsenseman.mensnewsdai ... isappoint-her-by-marc-h-rudov/
Published: Aug 3, 2008
Author: Marc Rudov
Post Date: 2008-08-06 17:19:06 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 730
Comments: 62

Nothing symbolizes spineless deference more than a man on bended knee proposing marriage to his girlfriend. When he utters to her that timeless four-word question — “Will you marry me?” — he is taking the biggest risk of his life: disappointing her. Through this emasculating act, he’s really asking her to bury him.

And, if he should, G-d forbid, disappoint his delicate flower, one only wonders how she might retaliate. Americans, who hate to see their women disappointed, will give her lots of latitude — whether she throws his clothes out the window, slaps him in the face (as Teri Hatcher, out of petty anger, did to Pierce Brosnan in Tomorrow Never Dies), or kills him with virtual impunity, as Mary Winkler did to her sleeping husband, using the abuse or bipolar-disorder defense.

Upon receiving marriage proposals from their boyfriends in front of live TV cameras, women typically jump up and down, shriek, and shed tears. Yet, given that the divorce rate hovers at about half, that women seek at least 70% of all marital dissolutions (an accurate barometer of female disappointment), and that the inevitable court battles will destroy lives, one must suspect the ebullience women exhibit when first sliding on their sparkly engagement rings. Clearly, they’re not atwitter about the men they’ve betrothed. So, why the fuss?

Billions of men throughout history have initiated the proposal ritual, for a variety of reasons. Supposedly, the basis of marriage has changed over time — evolving from parentally arranged unions focused on property, wealth, station, and lineage to modern ones in which the fiancés freely choose each other out of love and compatibility.

In reality, the more things have changed, the more they’ve stayed the same. Marriages, in 2008, still are about money and children, as their dissolutions ultimately prove. When a baseball unravels, one can see its innards; a marriage is no different. Ironically, divorce documents don’t mention love, allegedly a marriage’s core ingredient but a concept few people understand or practice.

Perpetual Childhood

Disappointment, defined as the gap between expectation and reality, is an immutable part of life. True adults — those who are mentally and emotionally mature — accept, manage, and move past disappointments, and they don’t expect others to prevent them.

Children, on the other hand, whether 5 or 35, do not and cannot deal with disappointment. Despite all the talk about feminism and equality, Americans, via outmoded chivalry and unconstitutional reproduction, child-custody, rape, and domestic-violence laws, keep women in perpetual childhood. Yes, American women have grown accustomed to being spared risk, pain, and disappointment.

Because most men have been raised to make women happy, to close that painful gap between expectation and reality, the penalty for failing is tremendous. To help clueless men navigate these risky waters, AOL published a compass called “5 Things You Should Never Say to a Woman.” Imagine the retaliation against any man who violates even one of these rules.

I appeared the other day on Fox Business Network to debate Alexis Glick and Tracy Byrnes about a new study citing an increase in female unhappiness at age 48. I opined that misery for women begins in childhood, when they’re taught that happiness derives from shoes, jewelry, boob-jobs, and pedestals. Naturally, the Fox women reacted with outrage, accusing me of knowing the “wrong” women and living in the dark ages. Dark ages? How do Alexis and Tracy explain the PMS (princess mentality syndrome) demands of their competitor at CNBC, Erin Burnett, who penned “8 Ways to Impress Me” on MensHealth.com? Her aim: to teach men how not to disappoint her. The top brass at CNBC weren’t impressed.

Women just don’t like to admit that feminarcissism is the rule, not the exception. Why is this? Most men tolerate and enable it out of false necessity: they naïvely believe that women have weak libidos. Such ignorance about female sexuality drives all irrational male behavior, as I wrote in Under the Clitoral Hood. In fact, the opposite is true: women are more lustful than men. Until men grasp this, they will continue to grovel and please — and women will continue to demand, and get, it.

Have you ever heard the slogan, If Mom’s happy, everyone’s happy? Of course you have. This nonsense is practiced in many families, as if Mom is the “special” parent whom everyone must please, and Dad, the man, is superfluous. That’s why feminism is so successful, and men’s rights almost dead, in all Western countries. Men aren’t just automatons designed to please women; they’re willing automatons, eager to please women!

I appeared a year or so ago as a guest on a radio program in Massachusetts. The male host asked me what’s inherently wrong with men that they always screw up relationships. I was appalled. “Why do you think women are relationship experts, perfect little angels who have no faults? Why do you automatically assume men are the culprits?” I shot back. He had no response because he’s the typical self-hating man who believes that men are scum. Alas, there are many like him in our midst.

On a radio show in DC, the male host asked me what men’s rights are and why men need any rights — I kid you not. Other male hosts have robotically repeated the feminist mantra, “women haven’t even voted for 100 years, and we men should cut them a break.” Dennis Miller’s wife warned him, via text message during our exchange, not to have me back on his show. A few other hosts admitted that their wives had cut off sex for a week after hearing them agree with me on the air.

It’s sad that American men have reduced themselves to living in fear of women, causing women to feel that not being disappointed is an unalienable right. Consequences? On Fathers’ Day, when Barack Obama unilaterally criticized men for the plight of fatherless homes, he received praise. Yet, by completely giving women a pass on Mothers’ Day — for the same issue — not one journalist or TV anchor challenged, has challenged, or ever will challenge him.

Why is it that women who falsely accuse men of rape or domestic violence are never prosecuted? Why is it that Hollywood and Madison Avenue continually portray men in sitcoms and TV commercials as moronic, impotent servants to their wives? And, why is it that, when women drop off their unwanted newborns at local fire stations, no questions asked, society looks the other way? More coddling and shielding them from risk, pain, and disappointment.

After Hillary Clinton conceded to Barack Obama, on June 7, 2008, she began her victimhood campaign, blaming members of the media for engaging in sexism, which, she claimed, derailed her nomination. At the same time, Senator Clinton bragged about receiving 18M primary votes, a US record. If sexism is so rampant, how did she amass 18M votes, many from men? In fact, Clinton is a hypocrite. Her presidential campaign and Website were all about women, women, women — which is overt sexism.

Perverse Coddling

I made the point earlier that most men are raised to elevate women on pedestals and to avoid disappointing them. Let’s see an example. In this well-known video, a father surprises his daughter, Mackenzie, with a red sports car on her 16th birthday. Instead of thanking him, she whines and stomps her feet — because she hates the color. Why the ungrateful behavior? Because Mackenzie’s pathetic, appeasing father has kissed her ass since birth, shielding her from disappointment. Is there a Mackenzie in your home? Is she your daughter, your girlfriend, or your wife — or all three?

In wimpy America, Mackenzie will find many men to follow in her father’s tiptoes. And, I guarantee that the masochist who eventually proposes marriage to Mackenzie will bow before her on bended knee, because he, like Mackenzie’s father, views women as superior beings. Unfortunately, he will have lots of like-minded company across our country: husbands, cops, DAs, judges, jurors, politicians, journalists, and producers of movies, commercials, and sitcoms.

Tell a woman she’s too weak to be an executive in your company or commander in chief of the US Armed Forces, and see how fast you get a call from the EEOC. Now, tell her she’s too strong to require special protection from VAWA, the unconstitutional Violence Against Women Act that Joe Biden, the US Senate’s biggest woman-pleaser, created. Now, watch her victimhood side emerge to explain her vulnerabilities. Basically, women are strong when it suits them and weak when it suits them, and men, suffering from vaginaphobia, just go along with it.

This perverse coddling of women is rooted in the fear of disappointing them. It is, in reality, a blatant disrespect for them, a fundamental belief that they’re weak, defenseless victims. But, if women were so insulted by condescending coddling, they would protest, right? Have you ever heard one woman complain about getting special privileges?

Like Cinderella

A friend of mine recently recounted an incident where his ex-wife had violated their custody agreement. He took her to court, where the male judge ruled, illegally, in her favor. Said the judge to my friend: “I don’t want to disappoint her.” Who cares about laws when a woman’s fragility is at stake? I encounter men all the time, just like this judge, who kowtow to their girlfriends and wives out of fear of disappointing them.

Two weeks ago, I debated Lis Wiehl on Fox News Channel’s Your World with Neil Cavuto about a jilted woman who won a $150K settlement from a Georgia jury because her fiancé had broken their engagement. He did this because, after paying $30K of her debts, which he was not required to do, he then discovered that her debts are greater than she initially had revealed. In other words, marriage was her ticket out of debt. So, he decided not to marry her. Sounds reasonable, right? Wrong. Engagement is a risk-free trial before making a lifelong commitment, right? Wrong. This man had committed the sin of disappointing a woman. Even though she had no legal basis for bringing this action, the 12-person jury, half male, felt sorry for her. Had the situation been reversed, can you imagine a jury awarding $150K to a jilted man?

A casualty of TV’s highly intellectual show, The Bachelor, 22-year-old Shayne Lamas, daughter of Lorenzo Lamas, broke off her engagement to Matt Grant. Yet, she wants to keep the ring and encase it in a glass box, like Cinderella. It is customary, and legally required in most states, that, when an engagement ends, the woman return her engagement ring to the man who gave it to her. But, because Shayne lives in a country that hates to disappoint women, she believes she’ll prevail. If she is forced to return that ring, I’ll be surprised.

Last month, Cynthia Rodriguez filed for divorce against Yankee great Alex Rodriguez, also known as A-Rod, after reports surfaced that he was involved with Madonna. A-Rod and Cynthia live in Florida, a no-fault state, where infidelity is not grounds for divorce. In 2002, they signed a prenup, a binding contract detailing how their assets would be split in case of a divorce. Throughout their marriage, A-Rod, who now earns an annual base of $27M, has been spotted publicly with numerous women. Knowing this, Cynthia stayed with him and also had a second child. Because contract law apparently doesn’t apply to disappointed women, Cynthia is illegally using charges of infidelity to persuade the judge to set aside their prenup and award her much more money. A-Rod is fighting to have the judge ignore the infidelity charges (which the law dictates) and respect the prenup (which the law also dictates). Cynthia will try to claim that she signed the prenup under duress — because girls, you know, don’t understand, like, contracts. If she doesn’t prevail, I will be surprised.

The NoNonsense Bottom Line

To coexist with a woman in a land that loathes female disappointment, a man now needs a conversation contract, a date contract, a sex contract, a coworker contract, a cohabitation contract, an engagement contract, and a marriage contract — none of which is guaranteed to be enforced. A bonanza for lawyers!

A man’s welfare, in this gynocracy that men built, depends on a woman’s mood, her ethics, the state in which she lives, and the reluctance of an unknown future judge or jury to “disappoint” her. The playing field is unlevel because men — afraid of being called misogynists and afraid of not getting laid — allowed it to happen, continue to tolerate it, and won’t fight it.

Had Peter Cook been the aggrieved party in his divorce from Christy Brinkley, and elected to open their proceedings to the public, the judge, the media, and women’s groups would have universally vilified him as a cad and a terrible father. Yet, when Christy did just that, she got a pass. In fact, Brinkley’s oldest daughter was “proud” of her mother’s public circus. Society accepts irrational, ruinous emotions and behavior from women as just compensation for their disappointments.

You don’t think women expect to be coddled, to have the upper hand in life? Look around in a restaurant, the next time you go out; count how many women are buying dinner for men. Then, listen to politicians speak, on both sides of the aisle; count how many are promising to prosecute women who falsely accuse men of rape. Women demand and get coddling. And, as long as caped men keep rescuing women from their disappointments, this manipulation game shall continue.

The desire to coddle is as immature and dysfunctional as the desire to be coddled. Such codependency leads to upwardly spiraling expectations and disappointments — as the relationship between Mackenzie and her father epitomizes. The courage to disappoint women is a sign of respect for them. Accepting disappointment as part of life, and that men are not responsible for preventing it, is a sign of self-respect for women.

If you’re a man whose mantra is Thou Shalt Not Disappoint Her — with the “wrong” dinner, conversation, joke, diamond, car, house, vacation, divorce settlement, salary, or legislation — you need to grow a pair.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

feminarcissism

Perfect.

Obama is the wafer-thin mint.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-06   17:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

Right on!

Best read in a long while. The guy nails it.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

Critter  posted on  2008-08-06   17:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)


Spoiled Rich Chick - Watch more free videos

The video he linked is hilarious.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-08-06   17:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: rotara (#0)

bump 4 later

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-06   17:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#0)

i was surprised to read that women seed 70% of all marital dissolutions.

Women just don’t like to admit that feminarcissism is the rule, not the exception. Why is this? Most men tolerate and enable it out of false necessity: they naïvely believe that women have weak libidos. Such ignorance about female sexuality drives all irrational male behavior, as I wrote in Under the Clitoral Hood. In fact, the opposite is true: women are more lustful than men.

i've always believed this even though it's said that the average man has more than 300 sexual thoughts a day.

A man’s welfare, in this gynocracy that men built, depends on a woman’s mood, her ethics, the state in which she lives, and the reluctance of an unknown future judge or jury to “disappoint” her. The playing field is unlevel because men — afraid of being called misogynists and afraid of not getting laid

especially the latter. ;)

The desire to coddle is as immature and dysfunctional as the desire to be coddled. Such codependency leads to upwardly spiraling expectations and disappointments — as the relationship between Mackenzie and her father epitomizes. The courage to disappoint women is a sign of respect for them. Accepting disappointment as part of life, and that men are not responsible for preventing it, is a sign of self-respect for women.

i like that. i love a man who is thoughtful and protective of me, but i don't want to be coddled if it's not deserved. i enjoy coddling too. 50-50 proposition for me.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-06   18:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#0)

men, suffering from vaginaphobia

Hoo boy, do we ever! Or is vaginalicism. Vaginaphilism?

Whatever, dude shoulda prolly taken a Filipina or summin.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-08-06   18:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#0)

In Praise of Mexicanas

It is not easy to explain to an American readership under forty what is meant by being a woman. We are accustomed to androgynous, litigious, Prozac-sucking shrews who would inspire erectile dysfunction in an iron bar. Yes, there are exceptions and degrees, but here is the main current.

...

The Mexicana has a strength that Americans of the era of the Depression had, but somehow lost. The wife of a friend of mine was working as a nurse when an earthquake struck her town. Mexico does not have the money to provide the services upon which Americans rely. She spent over a month in a makeshift tent in a field, during rainy season, with a suckling child. (Her husband had abandoned her. Mexican men are not always as impressive as their women.)

It was tough. She didn’t like it. Neither did she crumble under it. Life is life. In the crude but succinct Anglo-Saxon, shit happens. Deal with it. Net psychic trauma: None. Prozac consumed: None. Hours of grief-counseling required: None. Symptoms of PTSD: None. Importance of all of this to Sara: Not much. They were cold and wet for a while. Gee. Golly.

Obama is the wafer-thin mint.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-06   18:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: X-15 (#0) (Edited)

Having grown up before radical feminism took hold, my dating experience was real simple; dress well, hold the door for a woman, spend a buck and never, ever allow a woman to pay for anything. All this holds today, incidentally. If today I suddenly found myself 25, single, and game-fully employed, I'd be much more careful about who I dated than I was back then. Radical feminism is a turn off for me and I think it might be hard to find someone with values similar as mine.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-06   18:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Sam Houston (#3)

"It's the WRONG color, Dad..." I wonder which one of those annoying small islands off the coast of Massachusetts this took place on..?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-08-06   18:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Having grown up before radical feminism took hold, my dating experience was real simple; dress well, hold the door for a woman, spend a buck and never, ever allow a woman to pay for anything.

Geez...you must be as old as I am. :-)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-08-06   18:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#5)

afraid of not getting laid

especially the latter. ;)

I found that life got real easy once I got over the fear of lack-o-nookie.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.

Critter  posted on  2008-08-06   18:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CAPPSMADNESS, Peppa, Diana, scrapper2, texaslvr77, rowdee, CadetD, justlurking, farmfriend, LadyX, lizza76, octavia (#0)

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-06   18:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter (#11)

I found that life got real easy once I got over the fear of lack-o-nookie.

Ain't that the truth! When I no longer allowed a pu**y to have any power over me it was LIBERATING I tell ya!! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-06   18:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: who knows what evil (#10)

hehehehe....

The ride sure has been fun, tho!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-06   18:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: X-15 (#0)

Last month, Cynthia Rodriguez filed for divorce against Yankee great Alex Rodriguez, also known as A-Rod, after reports surfaced that he was involved with Madonna. A-Rod and Cynthia live in Florida, a no-fault state, where infidelity is not grounds for divorce. In 2002, they signed a prenup, a binding contract detailing how their assets would be split in case of a divorce. Throughout their marriage, A-Rod, who now earns an annual base of $27M, has been spotted publicly with numerous women. Knowing this, Cynthia stayed with him and also had a second child. Because contract law apparently doesn’t apply to disappointed women, Cynthia is illegally using charges of infidelity to persuade the judge to set aside their prenup and award her much more money. A-Rod is fighting to have the judge ignore the infidelity charges (which the law dictates) and respect the prenup (which the law also dictates). Cynthia will try to claim that she signed the prenup under duress — because girls, you know, don’t understand, like, contracts. If she doesn’t prevail, I will be surprised.

Cynthia is a member of the 'sacred American cow' class. Laws and contracts be damned! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-06   18:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: X-15 (#0)

I heard a good one:

A man marries a woman thinking she'll NEVER change, but she does.

A woman marries a many thinking "I'll change him" but he never does.

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-08-06   18:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: X-15 (#0)

Damn..........I can't find my fiddle.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-06   20:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: X-15 (#0)

I made the point earlier that most men are raised to elevate women on pedestals and to avoid disappointing them. Let’s see an example. In this well-known video, a father surprises his daughter, Mackenzie, with a red sports car on her 16th birthday. Instead of thanking him, she whines and stomps her feet — because she hates the color. Why the ungrateful behavior? Because Mackenzie’s pathetic, appeasing father has kissed her ass since birth, shielding her from disappointment. Is there a Mackenzie in your home? Is she your daughter, your girlfriend, or your wife — or all three?

MacKenzieHeartsu is the YouTube username for a fictional character created by Domino's Pizza for a viral marketing campaign. The character is a teenage girl whose brother, "Brian", uploaded a video to the site in late 2006. In it, she was apparently presented with a red Saab convertible as a birthday gift ... and reacted by complaining vigorously that she wanted a blue car. As a result she was widely referred to as the Spoiled Rich Girl.

The video became extremely popular in the next month, linked to from all over the Internet. It was the lead-in to a series of four followups recorded by MacKenzie herself, in which viewers saw her move from trying to defend herself to getting the blue car and finally selling the red one. The fourth in the series ended with a link to a Domino's Pizza site, at which point it was revealed that it was a viral marketing campaign to promote the chain's Anything Goes Deal.[1] The identities of the actors playing MacKenzie and the other characters in the series have not been revealed.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-06   20:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Sam Houston (#3)

The video he linked is hilarious.

The first salvo in the Domino's Pizza campaign in which, by the third video, at least I think it is the third one, she allegedly sells this Saab convertible for just enough money to buy a Domino's Pizza.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-06   20:35:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Sam Houston (#3)

I believe this one is real--saw it a long time ago.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2d2lt_audrey-is-a-great-daughter-and-huma

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-06   20:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: who knows what evil (#9)

"It's the WRONG color, Dad..." I wonder which one of those annoying small islands off the coast of Massachusetts this took place on..?

It took place in the mind of the agent that handled the Domino's ad account.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-06   20:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

The ride sure has been fun, tho!

Hell, yeah..!

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-08-06   21:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: James Deffenbach (#21)

It took place in the mind of the agent that handled the Domino's ad account.

Okay...so which one of those annoying small islands off the coast of Massachusetts did the ad rep conduct his research for this marketing campaign?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-08-06   21:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Having grown up before radical feminism took hold, my dating experience was real simple; dress well, hold the door for a woman, spend a buck and never, ever allow a woman to pay for anything.

I can't 't remember a single time Gramma entered or exited a structure or vehicle without Grampa holding the door for her. It waqs romantic, for sure, but also inefficient bordering on awkward. Still sweet, I think.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-06   22:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: James Deffenbach (#18)

YouTube username for a fictional character created by Domino's Pizza for a viral marketing campaign.

Monahans (SP?) are some rich pizza barons. Remember that planned community they tried to start in Florida?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-06   22:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dakmar (#24)

We took subways to work and school years ago. At times, they became quite crowded. Not one man/guy who had a seat wouldn't get up and offer it to a woman when they got on during the ride. That was the mid 60s. Not that long ago, all things considered.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-06   22:16:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Dakmar (#25)

It's called Ave Maria, and it's a disaster.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-06   22:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

The Domino's pizza founder, one of the nation's richest and most controversial Roman Catholic philanthropists, is putting his money and influence into making Brownback, the Republican Kansas senator, the next president of the United States.

The former pizza magnate is advising the 2008 presidential exploratory committee for Brownback, a longtime social conservative who converted to Catholicism a few years ago. Monaghan, who declined an interview request, is expected to play a lead role in "Catholics for Brownback."

Domino's Pizza founder tosses money, influence to Sen. Brownback

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-06   22:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Dakmar (#28)

Talk about a loser.

Two large with pepperoni, please.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-06   22:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

We took subways to work and school years ago. At times, they became quite crowded. Not one man/guy who had a seat wouldn't get up and offer it to a woman when they got on during the ride. That was the mid 60s. Not that long ago, all things considered.

We had school buses when I was young, but not much overcrowding. One time a semi-retarded girl stepped in front of the bus and the bus driver had to carry her home. Hard to believe, but twenty or so 13 - 18 year olds sat, if not exactly quietly, at least orderly and I'm sure a lot of them even offered to help. What fools we must seem to mammon.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-06   22:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Dakmar (#30)

mammon

Let he who is without mammon, cast the first 'tard.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-06   22:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

mmm, custard...

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-06   22:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#5)

Women just don’t like to admit that feminarcissism is the rule, not the exception. Why is this? Most men tolerate and enable it out of false necessity: they naïvely believe that women have weak libidos. Such ignorance about female sexuality drives all irrational male behavior, as I wrote in Under the Clitoral Hood. In fact, the opposite is true: women are more lustful than men.

i've always believed this even though it's said that the average man has more than 300 sexual thoughts a day.

Well if that is true then it could very well be because a man is cheating. Also if it is true that men have on average 300 sexual thoughts a day then I must be abnormal, I couldn't have any more than 10 a day at most.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-08-06   23:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: who knows what evil (#23)

Okay...so which one of those annoying small islands off the coast of Massachusetts did the ad rep conduct his research for this marketing campaign?

I have no idea.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-06   23:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dakmar (#25)

Monahans (SP?) are some rich pizza barons. Remember that planned community they tried to start in Florida?

Never heard of them or the community.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-06   23:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull (#35)

Never heard of Tom Monagham or Domino's Pizza? I find that startling. :)

Tull was right, planned community was to be named Ave Maria. I kept thinking he wanted to call it Dovely or something along those lines.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-06   23:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Dakmar (#36)

Never heard of Tom Monagham or Domino's Pizza? I find that startling. :)

Oh yeah, I have heard of him. Never had heard of his community though.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-06   23:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#37)

Yob teens: Are YOU to blame?

Discuss

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-06   23:38:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: RickyJ (#33)

Also if it is true that men have on average 300 sexual thoughts a day then I must be abnormal, I couldn't have any more than 10 a day at most.

On page 91 of The Female Brain, Dr. Louann Brizendine writes (emphasis added):

Males have double the brain space and processing power devoted to sex as females. Just as women have an eight-lane superhighway for processing emotion while men have a small country road, men have O'Hare Airport as a hub of processing thoughts about sex whereas women have the airfield nearby that lands small and private planes. That probably explains why 85 percent of twenty- to thirty-year-old males think about sex every fifty-two seconds and women think about it once a day -- or up to three or four times on their most fertile days.

This striking different in rates of sexual thoughts is also one of the bullet points on the book's jacket blurb -- but there, female sex-thought frequency is downgraded from "once a day" to "once every couple of days":

Thoughts about sex enter a woman's brain once every couple of days but enter a man's brain about once every minute

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i think Dr. Brizendine is wrong. i'm more in agreement with the writer of the thread's article. i think many women are equally as lustful as many men, if not more so.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-07   1:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#39)

Thoughts about sex enter a woman's brain once every couple of days but enter a man's brain about once every minute

Ha! Once every minute my a**! LOL ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-07   1:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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