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Title: Man held in Fla. on charge of threatening Obama
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URL Source: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5 ... stccNiKUj0Mi9DcOv2IeQD92DMO8O0
Published: Aug 7, 2008
Author: CURT ANDERSON
Post Date: 2008-08-07 18:51:39 by Jethro Tull
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Man held in Fla. on charge of threatening Obama
By CURT ANDERSON – 1 hour ago
MIAMI (AP) — A man who authorities said was keeping weapons and military-style gear in his hotel room and car appeared in court Thursday on charges he threatened to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, was arrested by the Secret Service on Saturday in Miami and was ordered held at Miami's downtown detention center without bail Thursday by a federal magistrate.
A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."
Obama was most recently in Florida on Aug. 1-2 but did not visit the South Florida area.
Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that "he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president's head," according to the Secret Service.
Geisel denied in a written statement to a Secret Service agent that he ever made those threats, and the documents don't indicate that he ever took steps to carry out any assassination. He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against President Bush.
Geisel's court-appointed attorney declined comment. The charge of threatening a major candidate for president or vice president carries a maximum prison sentence of five years.
The Obama campaign declined comment Thursday on the alleged threat.
In the interview with a Secret Service agent, Geisel said "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking," according to court documents.
A search of Geisel's 1998 Ford Explorer and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armor-piercing types, body armor, military-style fatigues and a machete. The SUV, which has Maine license plates, was wired with flashing red and yellow emergency lights.
Geisel told the Secret Service he was originally from Bangor, Maine, and had been living recently in a houseboat in the Florida Keys town of Marathon, according to court documents. He said he used the handgun for training for the bail bondsman class, had the knives for protection and used the machete to cut brush in Maine.
In the affidavit, the Secret Service said Geisel told agents that he suffered from psychiatric problems including post-traumatic stress disorder, but he couldn't provide the names of any facilities where he sought treatment.
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Our history is rife with political assassins dressed in military-style fatigues carrying machetes. Thank god this beast is off the street w/o bail (Some good habeas corpus is when judges can offer no bail, hey Bently?)
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
He's probably kin to the late maniacal rhymer, Dr. Seuss (Theodore Geisel). Had he followed through, we could have dubbed him "Son of 'Sam I Am.'"
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
I wonder why he didn't bother to pester Mr. Jive Talking when he was in state a few days ago? Very, very odd these militia assassins.
One should not take the Obamessiah's(PBUH) name in vane for only he can save our souls.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I don't understand. One person claimed that he said he would kill Obama. Another one said that he hated Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in his head but the only charge they made was the threat against Obummer? Not that I give a rat's tiny hiney about either of them but I think that is strange.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Everybody knows the secret,
What does that PBUH mean? Pi$$ be upon him?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me?
I believe the same beast is said to have made both comments, but please, where is the threat? Is it now a felony (no bail, thank-you) to yell "kill the umpire" at a ballgame? A threat is more than words, *except* apparently, when those words are directed at our elite. And the O'Piles clap as yet another right is removed from Americans.
Virgil, quick, come see, there goes BHO!
They went na, na na na na na, na na na na na na na na na.
That is one scary photo. They are in a trance state. Their analytical awareness is totally disconnected. Next step they start speaking in tongues.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Satire - "PBUH" = "Peace Be Unto Him". Devout Muslims use the phrase a lot in their formal religious writing when referring to a revered figure.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Seriously. Jim Jones...Ghana...vats of Kool Aid.
Seriously. Jim Jones...Ghana...vats of Kool Aid. And mass mind control.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I have never figured out why politicians are so much better than everyone else. Any of us could threaten anyone else and so long as we didn't act on our threat I don't reckon anyone would pay much attention (of course whoever you threatened might take offense and figure he might should do something about the threat but I think you see my point). Personally, I don't think Obama and Bush put together are worth a lot because I think they are both traitors and un-American.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I wonder what the charge will be for telling a public hire to go f**k himself?
Yes, I was just kidding with my post.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You better not try it. They will classify you as an "enemy combatant" and haul your @$$ to Gitmo without a trial.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
#2. To: Sam Houston (#1)
Obama was most recently in Florida on Aug. 1-2 but did not visit the South Florida area.
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Geisel denied in a written statement to a Secret Service agent that he ever made those threats, and the documents don't indicate that he ever took steps to carry out any assassination. He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against President Bush.
Lord Acton
#5. To: Original_Intent (#3)
Everybody knows the score.
I have finally found a way to live
In the color of the Lord.
#6. To: Original_Intent (#3)
One should not take the Obamessiah's(PBUH) name in vane for only he can save our souls.
Lord Acton
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
A search of Geisel's 1998 Ford Explorer and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armor-piercing types, body armor, military-style fatigues and a machete.
I've already said too much.
#8. To: James Deffenbach (#4)
He was charged only with threatening Obama
#9. To: MUDDOG (#7)
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
I've already said too much.
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
#12. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
What does that PBUH mean? Pi$$ be upon him?
#13. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#14. To: Original_Intent (#11)
That is one scary photo.
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
That is one scary photo.
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
I believe the same beast is said to have made both comments, but please, where is the threat? Is it now a felony (no bail, thank-you) to yell "kill the umpire" at a ballgame? A threat is more than words, *except* apparently, when those words are directed at our elite. And the O'Piles clap as yet another right is removed from Americans.
Lord Acton
#17. To: James Deffenbach (#16)
#18. To: Original_Intent (#12)
Satire - "PBUH" = "Peace Be Unto Him". Devout Muslims use the phrase a lot in their formal religious writing when referring to a revered figure.
Lord Acton
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
I wonder what the charge will be for telling a public hire to go f**k himself?
Lord Acton
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