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Title: Georgian President says 'Russia fighting war' [complaining about the US not jumping to defending Georgia]
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/europeCrisis/idUSN08472548
Published: Aug 8, 2008
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2008-08-08 11:49:10 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 320
Comments: 21

Georgian President says 'Russia fighting war'
Fri Aug 8, 2008 10:37am EDT

WASHINGTON, Aug 8 (Reuters) - Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said on Friday that Russia was fighting a war with his country and that Georgians were "looking with hope" to America, but he did not specifically appeal for U.S. help.

"We have Russian tanks moving in. We have continuous Russian bombardment since yesterday ... specifically targeting the civilian population," Saakashvili said in an interview with CNN.

"Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory."

Russian forces rolled into Georgia's breakaway South Ossetia region and were approaching its capital, Tskhinvali, on Friday, Russia's RIA news agency quoted a Russian military commander as saying.

"This was a very blunt Russian aggression. ... We are right now suffering because we want to be free and we want to be a multiethnic democracy," Saakashvili said in the interview.

Saakashvili, whose country is pushing to join NATO, said the conflict "is not about Georgia anymore. It's about America, its values."

"I ... thought that America stands up for those freedom-loving nations and supports them. That's what America is all about. That's why we look with hope at every American," the U.S.-educated president said.

Neither the White House or the Pentagon had any immediate reaction to the situation. The U.S. Defense Department has less than 120 personnel in Georgia. They are involved in training Georgian forces.

Saakashvili said Russia had been preparing for the war for years, amassing troops on Georgia's border for months.

"They made no secret. The are unhappy with our closeness with the United States, with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, with the West in general," he said.

The president said Russian artillery had been shelling Georgian positions for weeks, but he ordered a response only after Russian tanks moved in.

Saakashvili rejected Russian assertions that the fighting was sparked by events in South Ossetia, where Moscow accuses Georgian forces of aggressive action against Russian peacekeepers and others.

He compared the situation to the Soviet invasions of Afghanistan in 1979 and Czechoslovakia in 1968. Georgia and Russia were both part of the Soviet Union until its breakup in 1991.

"We are in this situation of self-defense against a big and mighty neighbor. We are a country of less than 5 million people and certainly our forces are not comparable," the president said.

"It would be suicidal for us to provoke Russia."

Saakashvili said Georgian forces had shot down two Russian aircraft. "One of the aircraft was specifically attacking a civilian hospital wounding doctors and patients with no real purpose," he said.

Saakashvili said he witnessed a Russian air attack -- two jets flying low, looking for "a marketplace in a very busy afternoon, and hitting it, hitting the crowd of people."

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#1. To: All (#0)

"I ... thought that America stands up for those freedom-loving nations and supports them. That's what America is all about. That's why we look with hope at every American," the U.S.-educated president said.

I'm wondering what got him the most impressed. The Abu Ghraib sex shows? The Gitmo vacation club? The human falafels in Fallujah? The Green zones?

Anyways, Bush can't do a thing. Georgia is Russia's bitch to slap around in frustration because Russia can no longer slap Poland or even Afghanistan.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-08   11:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

the U.S.-educated president

There's your sign ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   11:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

"One of the aircraft was specifically attacking a civilian hospital wounding doctors and patients with no real purpose," he said.

This is the exact same thing the U.S. aircraft were doing in Fallujah. Looks like the Russkies have been taking notes.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-08-08   11:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Sam Houston (#3)

You don't say?

What are those monsters going to do next? Maybe bomb a wedding party? Drop phosphorus over a couple of city blocks and incinerate every living being there?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-08   12:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rotara (#2)

There's your sign ;-)

A full-blooded African never would have fell for it.

He'd go home, declare himself king, and eat a few of his neighbors.

Obama is the wafer-thin mint.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-08   12:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tauzero (#5)

There's your sign ;-)

A full-blooded African never would have fell for it.

He'd go home, declare himself king, and eat a few of his neighbors.

LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   12:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

The Russian Army is as good at murdering civilians as anyone else.

Raw Video: Russia Battling Georgia

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   12:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rotara (#7)

Russia Battling Georgia

Alex Jones is talking about this right now.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-08-08   12:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rotara (#7)

Georgia says Russian tanks mean 'war' in South Ossetia

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-08-08   13:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TwentyTwelve (#8)

Russia Battling Georgia

Alex Jones is talking about this right now.

Free Speech ZONE bump

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   13:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

"I ... thought that America stands up for those freedom-loving nations and supports them. That's what America is all about. That's why we look with hope at every American," the U.S.-educated president said.

He saw what we did when Communist China invaded Tibet: nothing. He saw what we did when the Soviet Union and Hitler invaded Poland: nothing. He saw what we did when North Viet Nam invaded Sout Viet Nam: nothing. Why would we act any different now?? We've got our standards to uphold....

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-08-08   13:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TwentyTwelve (#9)

Russia 'invades' Georgia as South Ossetia descends towards war

Russian tanks have entered Georgia's breakaway province of South Ossetia, pushing the troubled region closer to all-out war.

 

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   13:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#11)

He saw what we did when the Soviet Union and Hitler invaded Poland: nothing.

Re Poland.

Roosevelt knew ahead of time what was coming and said nothing, did nothing.

We will become involved in the ME/Asia, with China, Russia and God knows who else.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-08   13:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#13)

Wednesday, 27 February, 2002, 19:24 GMT

US military advisers arrive in Georgia


U.S. military adviser Col. Elmer White (left) and Chief of General Staff of Georgia's armed forces Lt.-Gen. Dzhoni Pirtskhalaishvili speak to reporters in Tbilisi

US and Georgia say Americans will not be involved in combat

Five US military advisers have arrived in the former Soviet republic of Georgia, in what is being seen as a possible new front in the US war on terror.

As long as there is al-Qaeda influence anywhere we will help the host countries rout them and bring them to justice

US President George W Bush

At least US six helicopters have also been sent, and unconfirmed US media reports say up to 200 special forces may be deployed.

The US is stepping in because of reports that fighters allied with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda terror network may have escaped to Georgia.

President George W Bush defended US military plans, after Russia, which has traditionally regarded Georgia as part of its sphere of influence, had criticised the US involvement.

"As long as there is al-Qaeda influence anywhere we will help the host countries rout them and bring them to justice," Mr Bush said.

'New front'

The US and Georgia insist that the Americans will not be involved in combat, but will train the Georgian army in how to counter militant activity.

The helicopters - which arrived last autumn - are not equipped for carrying out air attacks, and will be used only to transport men and equipment, officials say.

However, their deployment is the first confirmed arrival of US military hardware in Georgia.

The US forces will have the right to act in self-defence, said a Pentagon spokesman.

The focus of US attention is the remote Pankisi Gorge, close to Georgia's border with the Russian breakaway republic of Chechnya.

Washington is concerned that the Georgian authorities are unable to control the security situation there.

The US and Russia both believe that al-Qaeda suspects may be hiding in the gorge area, where militants who operate in Chechnya are also believed to be based.

There is no question of a joint operation with another country. We will use only our forces

Irakly Alasania, Georgia's Deputy State Security Minister

But Russian officials are deeply unhappy at the prospect of US involvement, suspecting such co-operation is aimed at reducing their country's influence.

"We think it could further aggravate the situation in the region, which is difficult as it is. That is our position and Washington is well aware of it," Russian Foregn Minister Igor Ivanov told ORT public television.

Georgia has been trying to reduce Russian influence over its affairs, sparking an angry war of words between the two countries over recent months.

Special forces

The BBC's Stephen Eke says co-operation between the former Soviet republics and the US is viewed with suspicion in Russia.

Allies of Al-Qaeda are said to be hiding in Georgia

The exact scale of the US involvement remains unclear.

Several US media outlets, quoting military officials, have reported that up to 200 special forces could be sent in, but this has not been confirmed by either the US Government or Georgia.

Georgia's Deputy State Security Minister, Irakly Alasania, stressed that all US involvement would be restricted to training.

"There is no question of a joint operation with another country," he said. "We will use only our forces."

Correspondents say the Americans are viewing the Georgian operation as a possible new front against global terrorism.

As well as the operations against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, US troops are actively involved in efforts by the Philippine Government to contain Muslim guerrillas that Washington believes to have links with al-Qaeda.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   14:03:32 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TwentyTwelve (#9)

Georgia started the war bump

Bob Chapman on w/AJ saying that Zbig's fingerprints all over this: engaging Russia.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   14:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rotara (#14)

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/08/georgia.russia2

Friday August 08 2008 18:00 BST

Georgia calls for US help as Russians invade to defend South Ossetia Kremlin retaliates for Georgian military assault to regain control of rebel region

Helen Womack reports from Moscow

Georgia and Russia were today on the brink of full-scale war after Russian tanks rolled across the border to back separatists in the breakaway South Ossetia region.

With hundreds of people feared to have been killed and the South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali, reported to have been severely damaged, Georgia said it was pulling 1,000 of its troops out of Iraq to redeploy them against Russia.

Georgia, a strong US ally, currently has 2,000 soldiers in Iraq, but half would now be withdrawn, a Georgian official, describing them as "some of our best soldiers", said.

The Russian incursion began after Georgia launched a major military offensive to retake control of South Ossetia, which has enjoyed de facto autonomy since the early 1990s but officially remains part of the country.

The Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili, said the two countries were already effectively at war.

"Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory," he told CNN. "We are a freedom-loving nation that is right now under attack."

He called on the US to intervene, saying it was in Washington's interests to help his country.

Tskhinvali was reported to have suffered badly under heavy bombardment.

An official from the breakaway government said 1,000 people had been killed, although there was no independent verification of the figure.

"I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars," one woman, Lyudmila Ostayeva, who fled with her family to a village near the Russian border, told the Associated Press.

"It's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged."

In the heaviest fighting to afflict South Ossetia since the 1991-92 war in which it broke away from Georgia, a Russian army spokesman said tank and artillery units had "destroyed" Georgian positions around Tskhinvali.

A truce, agreed in 1992, is monitored by soldiers from Russia, Georgia and the neighbouring Russian region of North Ossetia, with which South Ossetia has close ties.

Earlier today, Saakashvili said 150 Russian tanks and armoured vehicles had entered the region and that his forces had shot down two Russian planes over Georgian territory.

At least 10 Russian peacekeepers were killed and 30 injured. South Ossetia map

Russian forces moved towards Tskhinvali and bombed a military airbase outside the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, after the Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, said it was his duty to punish those responsible for the deaths of his fellow nationals.

A majority of the roughly 70,000 people living in South Ossetia are ethnically distinct from Georgians, and many have Russian passports.

The US and EU urged an immediate end to hostilities.

"The European Union, in liaison with all the protagonists, is working towards a ceasefire so as to avoid an extension of the conflict," an EU statement said.

The US state department said Washington was sending an envoy to the region. "We support Georgia's territorial integrity and call for an immediate ceasefire," a spokesman added.

Russian forces moved across the border as Georgian troops held a three-hour ceasefire to allow civilians to be evacuated. Link to this audio Listen to Helen Womack discuss the flare-up in more detail

Before the Russian tanks rolled in, Medvedev told reporters: "Under the constitution and federal law ... I must protect the life and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are."

Early today, Georgian troops exchanged fire with convoys carrying volunteer fighters over the border to support the separatists.

Georgia said Russian SU-24 jets had entered its airspace and bombed two locations, including Gori, the birthplace of the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin, south of the Ossetian enclave. Russia denied this.

Vladimir Putin, the Russian prime minister and former president, said "aggressive" action by Georgia would incur a "response".

"The Georgian leadership has unleashed a dirty adventure," a ministerial statement said. "Blood spilled in South Ossetia will be blamed on these people and their associates."

Speaking through the Interfax news agency from China, where he is attending the Olympics, Putin blamed the Georgian leadership for its aggressive stance.

"Heavy weapons and artillery have been sent there, and tanks have been added," Putin said.

"Deaths and injuries have been reported, including among Russian peacekeepers. It's all very sad and alarming. And, of course, there will be a response."

The Kremlin decided to move into South Ossetia after Russia's security council met to discuss how to restore peace and defend civilians. Moscow has stressed it has a peacekeeping mandate and will act on it.

Saakashvili, who has ordered reservists into action, said "the greater part" of South Ossetia had been "liberated". Interfax said Georgian troops had entered Tskhinvali, but this was denied by Georgia.

The crisis in the Caucasus represents the first major test for Medvedev, but Putin's comments from China suggest he is calling the shots.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-08-08   14:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rotara (#15)

There's also this interesting thing from www.globals http://ecurity.org/military/world/georgia/army.htm

It's undated so I don't know when it was written.

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"In its report for 2005, Georgia's International Security Advisory Board (ISAB) noted that previous reviews identified a total strength of 13,000-15,000 active- duty personnel as an optimum for the Georgian armed forces. A four-brigade structure, along with an increased reserve force, represent an increase of 25- 30 percent on earlier planning figures in the Individual Partnership Action Plan (IPAP) agreed with NATO in 2004.

Observers suggested that the rationale for reversing the downsizing of recent years was to launch a new military offensive to bring the unrecognized breakaway Republic of South Ossetia back under the control of the Georgian government.

In addition to upping manpower, Georgia greatly increased its defense spending, from 79 million laris ($43 million) in 2004 to 317 million laris in 2005. The increase was consistent with the requirement that countries aspiring to NATO membership spend at least 2 percent of GDP on defense.

The weaponry purchased reportedly includes armored personnel carriers, self- propelled artillery, helicopters, and T-72 tanks. The latter three items called into question earlier statements that Georgia has no aggressive intentions and plans to strengthen its armed forces exclusively for defensive purposes, to repel any external invasion. These weapons are well suited for an offensive against the Ossetians. From mid-June to mid-July 2005, some 800 Georgian troops conducted large-scale tank exercises using some 170 battle tanks. One year earlier, Georgia had only 76 T-55 and T-72 tanks.

Georgia had succeeded, with assistance of the United States, Turkey, and other allies, in transforming the paramilitary National Guard into a trained, disciplined, and well-equipped fighting force qualified for NATO membership. " =======================================================

What we're seeing could fairly easily turn into a much larger affair. This could be in some respects similar to the way WWI expanded, as mutual defense agreements brought in more and more players until they were all too far along in preparations to be able to step away without appearing weak. Since it wouldn't involve their own deaths, they decided it was better to appear strong and stupid (and get many millions of their subjects killed) rather than appear weak and prudent. Couple that with the Baku-Tibilsi-Ceyhan pipeline, and what I see as an ominous warning from the Georgian President, saying that the US needs to understand that Georgian security is in US interests, the list of dumb things the arguably most idiotic administration in human history might do is quite long.

Rivers of blood were spilled out over land that, in normal times, not even the poorest Arab would have worried his head over." Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

historian1944  posted on  2008-08-08   14:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: historian1944 (#17)

Turkey

Wild Card?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   14:30:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: historian1944, All (#17)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-08   14:45:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

I bet China's leaders are pissed that Russia did this right before the Olympics started taking the spotlight away from them. They were suppose to wait until the Olympics were over.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-08-08   14:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: RickyJ (#20) (Edited)

Friday, August 8, 2008    

EURASIA INSIGHT

GEORGIAN DEFENSE MINISTER VISITS WASHINGTON, SEEKS TO STRENGTHEN US-GEORGIAN SECURITY TIES

Theresa Freese 6/23/05

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Promoting Georgia’s bid to integrate into Western security structures, Georgian Defense Minister Irakli Okruashvili recently visited Washington for talks with "friends" and "allies," including US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

In a June 16 interview, Okruashvili described the purpose of his trip as three-fold: "Getting NATO support; Getting the support of the United States in order to convince the Russians to sit down around the [negotiating] table to solve the problems of Abkhazia and South Ossetia; and to continue military programs."

The United States and Georgia enjoy a close strategic relationship, underscored by US President George W. Bush’s visit to Tbilisi in mid May. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive]. An 850-strong Georgian troop contingent currently serves in Iraq – marking the largest contribution of personnel, in per capita terms, made by any single country in the American-led coalition. The first Georgian Train and Equip Program, which prepared troops from Georgia’s 1st Brigade for service in Iraq, lasted from 2002 to 2004. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive]. The Pentagon followed up in 2005 with the $60-million Sustainment and Stability Operations Program, which is preparing Georgia’s 2nd Brigade for deployment in Iraq and is providing follow-up assistance for the 1st Brigade. At the end of these programs, Okruashvili said that up to 2,500 Georgian troops would be qualified to serve in international peacekeeping operations, such as in Kosovo and Iraq.

Georgian and American officials were tight-lipped concerning Okruashvili’s June 17 talks with Rumsfeld. The Defense Department stated only that the two discussed "defense issues of mutual interest." One Western military source, meanwhile, said the meeting was "not very substantive," adding that Rumsfeld merely suggested that Georgia improve its time-line for NATO accession.

Georgian defense officials consider the country’s participation in Iraq peacekeeping operations as a critical part of Georgia’s overall defense policy. The deployment in Iraq is being counted upon to enhance Georgia’s ability to gain membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). It may also provide Georgian officials with strategic heft in ongoing negotiations with Russia over the political status of the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. [For additional information see the Eurasia Insight archive].

In a June 16 presentation at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, Okruashvili characterized Russia as a "decision-maker" in both Abkhazia and South Ossetia. He added that he was anxious to prevent a scenario in which the unresolved conflicts held Georgia "hostage," and derailed NATO integration.

"We want to make sure the territorial problems Georgia faces will not become irresolvable obstacles for our progress towards NATO," said Giga Bokeria, a member of the Georgian parliament’s Defense and Security committee, who accompanied Okruashvili to Washington. "Otherwise, the enemies of Georgia will have ... incentives not to have any progress there."

At present Georgia is working to fulfill NATO-mandated obligations under an Individual Partnership Action Plan (IPAP). That could clear the way for Georgia to become a so-called Membership Action Plan (MAP) country. Both Okruashvili and Bokeria insisted that a 2006 deadline for the fulfillment of IPAP requirements would be met. Following a IPAP review in May at the Atlantic alliance’s headquarters in Brussels, NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said Georgia had made "a lot of progress," but added that "a lot has to be done" before Georgia is ready for membership.

At his CSIS presentation, Okruashvili said the immediate focus of Georgian military reforms was "establishing [the] professional ability and strength of our forces and . . . [the] inter-operability of our forces with NATO structures." In his view, the IPAP review indicated that all the elements for "real progress" in Georgia’s NATO bid "are in place." Okruashvili added that Georgian defense planners are addressing several concerns raised in the review. He assured, for instance, that "radical [personnel] changes are not planned in the nearest future" at the Defense Ministry.

Okruashvili added that a controversial Army Development Foundation, through which anonymous businessmen subsidized Georgia’s military budget, would be discontinued "[by the time the] next assessment team comes [at the] end of September or the beginning of October." The fund’s primary aim is to provide resources for the "construction or improvement of [the] infrastructure of the ministry of defense," he said. During his subsequent interview with EurasiaNet, Okruashvili stated that "no more" than 11 million lari (about $6 million) had been withdrawn from the fund since its creation roughly a year ago. About 2.5 million lari (roughly $1.4 million) remain in the fund, he said.

Okruashvili stated that he does not intend to introduce any "major structural changes" or make "major public procurements" until Georgia’s long-awaited Strategic Defense Review (SDR), an inventory of existing forces and equipment, is completed by the end of the year. Defense planning, he said, should be ready by September 2005. Meanwhile, the National Security Concept is now being reviewed by parliament. A legislative vote on the concept, which would guide the formulation of defense and national security policy, could come as soon as June 24, according to Bokeria.

One military source disputed Okruashvili's contention concerning procurement practices. The source said that Georgia is continuing to make purchases from Ukraine, including an air defense system.

American advisors are expected to help Georgian military planners develop a strategic defense plan, allowing Tbilisi to harmonize security objectives with its budgetary ability. A two-week assessment mission is scheduled for July. The lack of an SDR and strategic defense plan have been identified as obstacles that threaten Georgia’s ability to meet its 2006 deadline for the fulfillment of IPAP requirements.

A controversy looms over the optimal size of the Georgian military. Georgia reportedly strives to maintain four army brigades, and is considering forming a fifth. Okruashvili himself estimated that Georgia currently has no more than 12,000 troops -- with 3,000 soldiers per brigade.

Some experts have expressed concern about Georgia’s ability to finance such a force. Georgia’s defense budget currently stands at $180 million, or 320 million lari, according to Okruashvili. That amount slightly exceeds NATO standards. Defense spending for member states typically amounts to roughly 2 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Georgia’s military expenditures make up approximately 11.5 percent of the state budget (roughly 2 billion lari, or about $1.1 billion), and consume about 2.93 percent of GDP, said Deputy Defense Minister David Sikharulidze.

Bokeria expressed confidence that Georgia could support four brigades. "Georgia already demonstrated it is capable of financing its bureaucracy and military on its own," he said. "Budgetary revenues are growing and will grow further." But a Western military advisor sounded skeptical: "They cannot sustain four brigades, plus the special forces brigade, plus navy and air force, plus reserves and national guard, plus education and training--not by any western standards," the advisor said.

Editor’s Note: Theresa Freese, a graduate of The Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies, is a freelance journalist and political analyst who has been conducting research on unresolved conflicts in the South Caucasus since 2003.

Posted June 23, 2005 © Eurasianet


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I bet China's leaders are pissed that Russia did this right before the Olympics started taking the spotlight away from them. They were suppose to wait until the Olympics were over.

Sounds like AmeriKa's puppet in Georgia started it. The old 70's Zbig plan to draw Russia into a war with the West. ;-)

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