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Title: One Nation Under Siege
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URL Source: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d ... WmtUZ&q=one+nation+under+siege
Published: Jul 27, 2007
Author: William Lewis
Post Date: 2008-08-10 01:27:41 by wudidiz
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#1. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Uncle Bill, scrapper2, christine, noone222, buckeye, Rotara, nobody, James Deffenbach, farmfriend, Hayek Fan, Tom007, X-15, IndieTX, gengis ghandi, bush_is_a_moonie, Pinguinite, texaslvr77, who knows what evil, Tauzero, All (#0)

That's as many names as I could fit.

Happy WWIV.

"...This is not a government of, by and for the people it is a government of, by and for the corporation and by definiton, when business controls government that is inescapably; Fascism." ~ David Von Kleist

wudidiz  posted on  2008-08-10   2:12:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: wudidiz (#1)

"...This is not a government of, by and for the people it is a government of, by and for the corporation and by definiton, when business controls government that is inescapably; Fascism." ~ David Von Kleist

So true.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-08-10   3:53:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#6)

Jim Marrs goes on to say that in effect, what we have is National Socialism.

Coined Fascism by Mussolini who later called it Corporatism.

wudidiz  posted on  2008-08-10   4:08:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: wudidiz (#7)

Jim Marrs goes on to say that in effect, what we have is National Socialism.

At rense.com: Jim Marrs On Remote Viewing, ET Agenda, JFK, Illuminati -- From NewsHawk Inc. From Para para@clara.net 5-10-00.

Hmmmm... Aliens.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-10   12:19:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeye (#9)

Hmmmm... Aliens.

You're just lookin' for trouble, aren't you? ;-)

wudidiz  posted on  2008-08-10   16:11:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: wudidiz (#12)

A tainted source is worse than useless.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-10   16:16:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeye (#15) (Edited)

Argumentum Ad-hominem: Shoot the messenger fallacy.

This is a common logical fallacy. Argumentum ad hominem basically means that the argument becomes directed towards the individual as opposed towards the crucial issues being discussed. It is succinctly described as, attack the messenger not the message (hence – shoot the messenger). It is often seen in both politics and pseudoscience. Its aim is to undermine the position of ones opponent, by undermining the opponent personally (in a manner that is actually completely irrelevant to the debate). The hope here is that if one can discredit the individual, this by default, discredits his / her argument. It does not. The fallacy here relates to the irrelevance of the attack. It is not viable to argue against a position and then justify that argument by criticising the individual who holds it.

wudidiz  posted on  2008-08-10   16:21:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: wudidiz, buckeye (#17)

The hope here is that if one can discredit the individual, this by default, discredits his / her argument. It does not.

Actually, it does.

And it works the other way too. Ideas are given credit according to their source.

Hardly anybody ever objects to that -- they might themselves be a creditable source some day!

;-)

Anyway, knowledge is not free, and behaviors in both directions economize on knowledge costs. On this basis, it's not wrong or even illogical. It's a law of mass human interaction, and you have to account for it.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-10   23:34:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Tauzero (#39) (Edited)

Giving credit to an idea doesn't make it true.

wudidiz  posted on  2008-08-11   0:39:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#42. To: wudidiz (#40)

So? Many people continue to listen to Oprah.

Truth doesn't set you free. It just makes you a good customer to your psychoanalyst.

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