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Title: WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT GEORGIA-RUSSIA CONFLICT?
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Published: Aug 11, 2008
Author: Bruce K. Gagnon
Post Date: 2008-08-11 12:37:54 by Rotara
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* In 2005 the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline opened. It cost $3.6 billion and was funded by British Petroleum (BP) in a consortium including Unocal of the U.S. and Turkish Petroleum, and others. With the fall of the Soviet Union a scramble ensued for political and economic control of this part of the world. Georgia is on the pipeline route. Russia was opposed to this pipeline route. Brzezinski was a consultant to BP during the Bill Clinton era and urged Washington to back the project whose route would circumvent Russia. http://www.space4peace.org Bruce Gagnon is the Coordinator of the Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space. Between 1983–1998 Bruce was the State Coordinator of the Florida Coalition for Peace & Justice. He was the organizer of the Cancel Cassini Campaign (launched 72 pounds of plutonium into space in 1997) that was featured on the TV program 60 Minutes. Bruce has been featured by artist Robert Shetterly in his collection of portraits and quotes entitled Americans Who Tell The Truth. In 2006 he was the recipient of the Dr. Benjamin Spock Peacemaker Award. In 2003 Bruce co-produced a popular video entitled Arsenal of Hypocrisy that spells out U.S. plans for space domination. His latest video, shot in 2006, is entitled The Necessity of the Conversion of the Military Industrial Complex. In 1968 Bruce was Vice-chair of the Okaloosa County (Florida) Young Republican Club while working on the Nixon campaign for president. Bruce is a Vietnam-era veteran and began his career by working for the United Farm Workers Union in Florida organizing fruit pickers. 
I must admit that I am not an expert on the Georgia-Russia conflict that is now underway. But I have been following issues there for some time and have learned to see some linkages between what is going on in places like Poland, Czech Republic, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, China, and the Georgia-Russia conflict.
So here are some random, and not so random, observations and quotes that I think might give us all something to ponder.
* It's all about oil and natural gas. Russia has the world's largest supply of natural gas and Iran has the world's second largest supply. There is much oil and natural gas up in the Caspian Sea region. Which ever country controls this part of the world will have a jump start in controlling the keys to the world's economic engine for the foreseeable future.
* The expanding economy of China has tremendous need for energy. China now imports much of its oil via sea (thru the Taiwan Straits) and the U.S. has in recent years doubled its naval presence in this region pursuing the ability to "choke off" China's ability to import oil. China is looking for alternative, land routes, to transmit oil thus pipelines through Central Asia become crucial. U.S. permanent bases in Afghanistan and attempts to put military bases in other Central Asian countries is in large part an attempt to create the ability to control these pipeline routes. F. William Engdahl, author of A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order, maintains that, "Washington is out to deny China east land access to either Russia, the Middle East or to the oil and gas fields of the Caspian Sea."
Engdahl goes on to say, "A close look at the map of Eurasia begins to suggest what is so vital for China and therefore for Washington's future domination of Eurasia. The goal is not only strategic encirclement of Russia through a series of NATO bases ranging from Camp Bond Steel in Kosovo to Poland, to Georgia, possibly Ukraine and White Russia, which would enable NATO to control energy ties between Russia and the European Union."
"Washington policy now encompasses a series of 'democratic' or soft coup projects which would strategically cut China off from access to the vital oil and gas reserves of the Caspian including Kazakhstan. The earlier Asian Great Silk Road trade routes went through Tashkent in Uzbekistan and Almaty in Kazakhstan for geographically obvious reasons, in a region surrounded by major mountain ranges. Geopolitical control of Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan would enable control of any potential pipeline routes between China and Central Asia just as the encirclement of Russia controls pipeline and other ties between it and western Europe, China, India and the Mideast."
* Some years ago I read the book called The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski which I recently wrote about in relation to his being a chief foreign policy advisor to Barack Obama. Brzezinski has been critical of the Bush administration for invading Iraq essentially saying that it was the wrong war. Brzezinski has long maintained that Russia and China were the targets that had to be militarily contained if the U.S. hoped to continue its role as chief superpower of the world. He says, "Eurasia is the world's axial super continent. A power that dominated Eurasia would exercise decisive influence over two of the world's three most economically productive regions, Western Europe and East Asia. A glance at the map also suggests that a country dominant in Eurasia would almost automatically control the Middle East and Africa. With Eurasia now serving as the decisive geopolitical chessboard, it no longer suffices to fashion one policy for Europe and another for Asia.....Eurasia accounts for 75% of the world's population, 60% of its GNP, and 75% of its energy resources. Collectively, Eurasia's potential power overshadows even America's."
Brzezinski also serves on the board of the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce that includes people like Tim Cejka (President of ExxonMobil Exploration); Henry Kissinger; James Baker III (who in 2003 went to Georgia to tell them President Shevardnadze that Washington wanted him to step down so U.S.-trained Mikhail Shaakashvili could replace him as president); Brent Scowcroft (former Bush I national security adviser); and Dick Cheney (who served on the board before becoming Bush II's V-P).
The U.S. has long been involved in supporting "freedom movements" throughout this region that have been attempting to replace Russian influence with U.S. corporate control. The CIA, National Endowment for Democracy (board members include former neo-conservative congressman Vin Weber and General Wesley Clark), and Freedom House (includes Zbigniew Brzezinski, former CIA director James Woolsey, and Obama foreign policy adviser Anthony Lake) have been key funders and supporters of placing politicians in power throughout Central Asia that would play ball with "our side".
* Now all of this hardball politics is to be expected. The U.S., Russia, and China all want control of this part of the world. OK, nothing new there. But the current Georgia-Russia conflict indicates that things are moving to a new dangerous stage of development. Very recently the U.S. and Georgia held military maneuvers in the now disputed territories. Russia countered with military maneuvers of its own. Russia is feeling threatened by expanding U.S. bases in Romania, Bulgaria, Poland and the Czech Republic. Added to that are NATO attempts to put bases in Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia and possibly even Georgia - all along or very near Russia's border.
* None of this is about the good guys verses the bad guys. It is power bloc politics and when the shooting starts it is civilians who die and their communities get destroyed. Big money is at stake and big money does not mind killing innocent people who stand in the way of "progress". For the peace movement we must first understand some of the history, and also understand the "chess" game now underway. We must not have illusions that this is about "democracy" and must denounce the military and corporate agenda of the players involved. For us in the U.S. we must also remove our blinders and see that both parties (Republican and Democrat) share a bi-partisan history and agenda of advancing corporate interests in this part of the world. Obama's advisers, just like McCain's (one of his top advisers was recently a lobbyist for the current government in Georgia) are thick in this stew.
* In the end the peace movement must recognize that this current fighting could trigger protracted war and the only question becomes which weapons get used? Does the U.S. decide it must "come to the aid of it's ally Georgia"? Is an attack on Iran somehow connected to this widening war for oil? Are nuclear weapons on the table? None of us has all the answers but it is imperative that we begin asking these hard questions and learn as quickly as possible as much as we can about the region.
* Lastly, need I remind anyone, that any protracted warfare in this region will be directed by space satellite technology. Space control and domination gives the U.S. the leg-up in any superpower struggle for control of oil and natural gas.
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#1. To: Rotara (#0)
Why would the U.S. want to "choke off" the supplies to the country where all its major corporations have moved their factories? It's bizarre. Someone from the Fortune 500 needs to send a memo to the Pentagon. China is now their home.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Zbig bump
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
In the meantime, Globalists are fleeing AmeriKa and heading to Dubai and Paraguay, among other places. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
You should start a thread with that.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
NATO instructor taken hostage with Georgians amid reports of U.S. military commanding thousands of mercs in proxy war. Dead black Americans having been found in Tskhinvali, the capital city of South Ossetia.
The NAU/EU started a war with Russia. WW3 started on 8-8-8 by Zbig d!ck.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Bomb any Russian equipment and or personnel WITHIN Georgia.
Most of the "people in the know" have left. They know what is about to happen.
Too early. Russia is playing chicken to see if Bush calls or folds. I say he folds.
There's none of that to begin with in the only Georgia that means anything to Americans. But if you just like giving random orders from your armchair, go right ahead.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Civilian Genocide, Dead Americans Cost Of U.S.-Russia Proxy War Paul Joseph Watson The truth behind who is primarily responsible for the bloodshed unfolding in South Ossetia and surrounding areas has been buried by the western corporate media. Georgian forces, with a green light from NATO and the support of American and Ukrainian mercenaries, launched a brutal attack targeting civilians and Russian peacekeepers timed to coincide with the opening of the Beijing Olympics so as to temporarily deflect attention before the inevitable Russian response, by which time the global media machine kicked into high gear to smear Russia as the villains of the entire piece. Georgia Georgia is being used as a proxy client state through which the U.S. and NATO are advancing their geopolitical motives — to the cost of Ossetian, Georgian and Russian civilians alike caught in the middle of the carnage. To accept such a characterization is not parroting Russian military propaganda, it is a reflection of the stone cold fact that Georgia was responsible for the first provocation - which itself amounted to a war crime - that launched the conflict. That is not to hide from the fact that Russia’s unrelenting response continues to slaughter untold numbers of innocent people. The initial Georgian bombardment of the provincial capital Tskhinvali was primarily directed to achieve maximum civilian casualties, with residential areas, hospitals and the university being targeted, leading to at least 1500 civilian deaths according to both western and Russian sources. “The air and artillery bombardment left the provincial capital without water, food, electricity and gas. Horrified civilians crawled out of the basements into the streets as fighting eased, looking for supplies,” reported the Associated Press. Reports of the initial carnage metered out by Georgian forces and the slaughter of Russian peacekeepers are difficult to find, because they have already been buried under the deluge of condemnation about Russia’s heavy-handed response. An American man living in South Ossetia says U.S. and Georgian leaders are responsible for the violence that has killed 2,000 people in the region. American citizen and resident of South Ossetia Joe Mestas described the war crimes he witnessed being carried out by Georgian forces, back by U.S. support, against innocent civilians. “I thought that since U.S. is supporting Georgia there would be some control over the situation in South Ossetia and that there would be a peaceful solution to the conflict. But what is happening there now it’s not just war, but war crimes. George Bush and [Georgian president] Mikhail Saakashvili should answer to the crimes that are being committed – the killing of innocent people, running over by tanks of children and women, throwing grenades into cellars where people are hiding,” Mestas said. “The war is when military fight against military. But the Georgian army is killing innocent civilians. This is genocide,” he added. A prime example of media bias in shielding Georgia from responsibility for the carnage is the fact that news outlets like the BBC continue to report that 1500 civilians have been killed in Georgia, with the obvious inference being that these are victims of the Russian onslaught. But these victims were not killed in Georgia, they were killed in Ossetia - by Georgian forces. As the Chimes of Freedom Blog elaborates, “While the Ossetians claimed over 1000 dead the BBC neither reported this or any newsreel coming out of Ossetia showing the destruction caused by the Georgian shelling of the breakaway republic. All we are getting is one-sided reports of the destruction being caused by the Russians.” “The BBC is giving carte blanche to the Georgian point-of-view to be aired on its services while nothing whatsoever is being heard from the Ossetian side. The BBC’s repetitive playing of a statement by George Bush, given several days ago, without balancing these against statements from the Russian side indicates where the BBC is coming from.” Other mainstream news outlets are either aping the portrayal of Georgia, which enjoys the support of the American empire and NATO, as a poor isolated little country under brutal assault by the big bully Russia, or simply ignoring events altogether and obsessing about John Edwards’ extramarital affair. In reality, Georgia is being used as a proxy client state through which the U.S. and NATO are advancing their geopolitical motives - to the cost of Ossetian, Georgian and Russian civilians alike caught in the middle of the carnage. As Professor Michel Chossudovsky explains, “Georgia is an outpost of US and NATO forces, on the immediate border of the Russian Federation and within proximity of the Middle East Central Asian war theater. South Ossetia is also at the crossroads of strategic oil and gas pipeline routes.” “Georgia does not act militarily without the assent of Washington. The Georgian head of State is a US proxy and Georgia is a de facto US protectorate.” The price of the U.S. and NATO’s latest proxy war is already being paid with the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians - along with American mercenaries supporting Georgian forces. According to the president of South Ossetia, Eduard Kokoity, the bodies of black men were found at the site of one battle near a school. Russian envoy Dmitry Medoyev indicated the men may have been American mercenaries. “In yesterday’s attack, the advancing tanks were supposedly crewed by Ukrainians. Two unidentified bodies found today are said to have black skin. Possibly they are Americans but we can’t say for sure yet. We will be able to publish the official conclusions after carrying out special tests,” Medoyev said. Last month, the United States, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Ukraine conducted Immediate Response 2008, a joint training exercise said to be in “spirit of the NATO Partnership for Peace program,” according to Blackanthem Military News. Immediate Response 2008 was held at the Vaziani Military Base in Georgia. In another report, a woman interviewed by Russia Today in Tskhinvali, South Ossetia, talked about the presence of Georgian troops with American insignias. “There are lots of bodies over there, a lot of people have been killed, mostly Ossetians, but also Georgians, they had American emblems on their forearms and they were in black uniforms,” she said. Black uniforms are a trademark of Blackwater and DynCorp mercenaries (see Chris Hedges, America’s Holy Warriors). DynCorp’s presence in Eastern Europe is well documented, particularly in occupied Bosnia where it engaged in sex-trafficking and prostitution. In a Friday press conference, Chairman of Russia’s State Duma Security Committee Vladimir Vasilyev said without U.S. aid, Tbilisi would have been unable to start military operation in South Ossetia. “The further the situation unfolds, the more the world will understand that Georgia would never be able to do all this without America,” said Vasilyev. “In essence, the Americans have prepared the force, which destroys everything in South Ossetia, attacks civilians and hospitals.” It is entirely feasible the U.S. has “prepared the force” with mercenaries as well. Michel Chossudovsky explores the reasoning behind Georgia’s act of provocation that launched the conflict. US-NATO military and intelligence planners invariably examine various “scenarios” of a proposed military operation– i.e. in this case, a limited Georgian attack largely directed against civilian targets, with a view to inflicting civilian casualties. The examination of scenarios is a routine practice. With limited military capabilities, a Georgian victory and occupation of Tskhinvali, was an impossibility from the outset. And this was known and understood to US-NATO military planners. A humanitarian disaster rather than a military victory was an integral part of the scenario. The objective was to destroy the provincial capital, while also inflicting a significant loss of human life. If the objective were to restore Georgian political control over the provincial government, the operation would have been undertaken in a very different fashion, with Special Forces occupying key public buildings, communications networks and provincial institutions, rather than waging an all out bombing raid on residential areas, hospitals, not to mention Tskhinvali’s University. The Russian response was entirely predictable. Georgia was “encouraged” by NATO and the US. Both Washington and NATO headquarters in Brussels were acutely aware of what would happen in the case of a Russian counterattack. The question is: was this a deliberate provocation intended to trigger a Russian military response and suck the Russians into a broader military confrontation with Georgia (and allied forces) which could potentially escalate into an all out war? With rhetoric from figures like President Bush and Condoleezza Rice becoming increasingly heated towards Russia, the potential for an escalation in tensions is readily apparent. Only the most naive would believe that the U.S. missile defense shield is anything other than a bulwark against Russian military expansion, and Russia’s response in resuming bomber patrols across the Atlantic sends a clear message. Knowing that Americans remain completely unconvinced about the necessity of attacking Iran, have the Neo-Cons in control of the White House lit the blue touch paper for a wider war that could swing the U.S. election in favor of pro-war candidate John McCain? Or is this merely payback for Russia lending their expertise in building Iranian nuclear reactors? The motives will become clear in due course but what’s certain is that innocent lives will continue to be lost as the American empire lurches into its next theatre of conflict and the Neo-Cons play a deadly game that could have devastating wider consequences.
Sam... Just for you, next time I will add a "sarcasm" tag.
If the Bear decides to dine in Cuba one more time, it will be interesting to see if Bush is once again all mouth.
Israel should push for Caucasian democracy From: Jerusalem Post Date: January 22, 2003 Author: IRAKLY ARESHIDZE Jerusalem Post 01-22-2003 Headline: Israel should push for Caucasian democracy Byline: IRAKLY ARESHIDZE Edition; Daily Section: Opinion Page: 09 Wednesday, January 22, 2003 -- The visit of Georgian State Minister Avtandil Jorbenadze, who is second only to President Eduard Shevardnadze, to Israel this week is yet another sign of the interest Georgian leaders have in building closer ties with Israel. Last month, David Gamkrelidze, an opposition leader and probably the most hawkish pro-American in Georgian politics, was in Israel. A close relationship between Israel and Georgia is logical and benefits both countries. Georgia can learn much about how to build an independent state from Israel. Meanwhile, Georgia's geopolitical location is important for Israel's strategic interest. However, the anti-democratic policies of the governmental political party Jorbenadze is leading into the crucial parliamentary elections this fall endanger stability, not only in Georgia but in the Caucasus as a whole. In geopolitical terms, Georgia is important for Israel because it is the keystone of the entire Caucasus-Central Asia region. One reason for the region's significance is energy. A stable, pro-Western Georgia will allow the transportation of Caspian energy without going through Russia, using the Baku- Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil and Shah Deniz gas pipelines, which are currently under construction. Since the early 1990s, the United States has played the crucial role in promoting a pro-Western orientation in Azerbaijan and Georgia, and has protected Georgia's sovereignty from Russian pressure. However, the resources pumped out of the Caspian are unlikely to reach America. Instead, they are more likely to benefit countries closer to the source, including Israel. Israel is also interested in preventing Iranian influence in the Caucasus. Teheran already exercises a disproportionate and dangerous influence in Armenia. Over the years, it has put significant pressure on Azerbaijan through its unwillingness to settle the dispute over the legal governance and use of the Caspian Sea. Iran's policies toward Georgia have been more conciliatory and have been aimed at developing friendly ties between the two states. The Georgian government has unwisely engaged Teheran. One of Georgia's only 20 foreign missions is in Teheran, and regular reciprocal visits are made by high government officials. It is beneficial for Israel to keep Iran and other terrorist sponsoring states out of the Caucasus and Central Asia, and to surround the Middle East with pro- Israeli, pro-American countries. This will help isolate anti-Israeli influences, and alongside post-Saddam Iraq, help sustain the push for greater democratization throughout the region. Pro-democracy leaders in Georgia realize that Israel is an excellent example for Georgia to follow. Georgia is on the verge of democratic consolidation, but is surrounded by a number of dictatorial or, at best, soft authoritarian states. It faces significant national security challenges, including the need to restore control over significant parts of its territory. (Two Georgian regions, Abkhazia and so-called Southern Ossetia, are currently under separatist control.) At the same time, since September 11, Georgian leaders have finally acknowledged the terrorist threats in the Pankisi Gorge, including the presence of Chechen rebels possibly connected to al-Qaida and funded by Saudi Arabia. Israel's experience in developing a powerful army and building a democracy in an unfriendly environment is a useful guide to Georgian policy makers. Georgia can also benefit from Israel's military training and assistance. Officials in Tbilisi also realize that strong relations with Israel can help Georgia strengthen relations with both Turkey and the US, countries whose engagement in Georgia is vital for the future of Georgian independence. WASHINGTON'S engagement throughout the 1990s helped position Georgia to achieve true democracy. Georgia has an active political sphere, with vibrant opposition political parties. Its media is largely independent, its civil society is strong, and the business community generally free from government intervention and control. While the government is corrupt, and the judiciary and legislative branches are constitutionally weak, the separation of powers in Georgia is real. Both the parliament and the courts function as checks on the president. Over the next two years, Georgia will face two important tests on its road to democratic consolidation: parliamentary elections this year and presidential elections in 2005, when Shevardnadze will step down. Most Georgians believe that more than a decade of Shevardnadze's leadership has not solved Georgia's economic depression and political instability. Understandably, he is very unpopular domestically, and this political weakness prevents him from tackling many of Georgia's problems. Meanwhile, without significant reform, Georgia will not be able to maintain political stability. Georgians are therefore looking to the upcoming elections as a means of overcoming a decade of stagnation. However, Avtandil Jorbenadze, Israel's recent guest, and other leaders of the governing Citizens' Union of Georgia (CUG) party, realizes they cannot win free and fair elections. In the last popular vote, the local government elections in June 2002, CUG was trounced nationally by its right-wing opposition, the New Rights Party. As a result, CUG is reverting to strong-arming opposition officials into joining its ranks, and plans to use state resources to finance its campaign, as it allegedly did in the 1999 parliamentary elections. With the help of these resources, CUG hopes to gain control of the parliament this year (as it did in 1999), and then exert control over the presidential succession. Such a course of events greatly endangers the interests of all countries that need a stable Georgia as a partner. If the elections are manipulated, the Georgian citizens will likely go into the streets, as they have in the past to oppose the totalitarianism of Soviet rule and the authoritarianism of the first post-Soviet president, Zviad Gamsakhurdia. This would destabilize the country, and under the worst circumstances, could lead to civil war. Nations with a stake in Georgia, including Israel, must regularly emphasize the need for democracy to Georgian officials, including Jorbenadze, and promote policies which will lead to a post-Shevardnadze government which has the trust of the people. Only such succession will lead to a stable Georgia which can be an active and useful partner to both Israel and the US.
Israel has run Georgian defense build up for 10 years, that's 3 years longer than AmeriKa has been there. Israel, AmeriKa and the EU have murdered Russians and declared war on Russia, saying that Russia shall pay for having been terrorized. UNreal.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Democracy... Two or three years ago Bush said "We will defend Ish-rul". If he is such a bad guy or good guy, why not bomb the Ruskies, Georgia is our friend and they have a pipeline, Israel is a nothing.
You may get your wish. NATO flyers in Turkey (just south of Georgia) are itching to fight Russkies. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
As of this morning that pipeline belongs to Russia. Finders keepers.
Nope, the Turks are greedy and self serving but not stupid. They played both sides of the street in WW2, never lost a man and came out of the war in fine shape. They will not allow anything to upset the Bear.
They played both sides of the street in WW2, never lost a man and came out of the war in fine shape. They will not allow anything to upset the Bear. The Turks want into NATO. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Georgia to drown ruined city – South Ossetia A wounded man in a bed in the basement of a destroyed hospital in Tskhinvali (AFP Photo / Dmitry Kostyukov)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
www.russiatoday.com/news/news/28802 August 11, 2008, 9:24 Revealed: the brutal reality of war The conflict in South Ossetia has already claimed the lives of at least 2,000 people. More than 30,000 have been displaced. Many of those have no idea where their families and friends are. Or even if they’re alive. They have no idea what will happen next. A wounded woman in the basement of a destroyed hospital in Tskhinvali (AFP Photo / Dmitry Kostyukov)
Georgia is the cradle of Khazaria, the origin home of the counterfeit Ashkenazi jews. By theft and murder, these talmudic hordes are causing mayhem and turmoil all over the world. They demand all the world riches, promised to them by the khazari-god. And they subjugate the stupid goyem, especially those zio-christians who became their harlots. LOL ……. Are we still waiting for that con rapture, and worse criminals to govern the world from Jerusalem?
#2. To: TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent (#0)
Brzezinski also serves on the board of the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce that includes people like Tim Cejka (President of ExxonMobil Exploration); Henry Kissinger; James Baker III (who in 2003 went to Georgia to tell them President Shevardnadze that Washington wanted him to step down so U.S.-trained Mikhail Shaakashvili could replace him as president); Brent Scowcroft (former Bush I national security adviser); and Dick Cheney (who served on the board before becoming Bush II's V-P).
#3. To: Rotara (#2)
Zbig bump
#4. To: Sam Houston (#1)
It's bizarre. Someone from the Fortune 500 needs to send a memo to the Pentagon. China is now their home.
#5. To: TwentyTwelve (#3)
#6. To: Rotara (#2)
Zbig bump
#7. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)
#8. To: Rotara (#7)
#9. To: Rotara, Sam Houston, christine, Original_Intent, wudidiz (#4)
In the meantime, Globalists are fleeing AmeriKa and heading to Dubai and Paraguay, among other places. ;-)
#10. To: TwentyTwelve (#9)
Most of the "people in the know" have left. They know what is about to happen.
#11. To: Cynicom (#8)
#12. To: Rotara (#0)
Prison Planet
Monday, August 11, 2008
#13. To: Sam Houston (#11)
#14. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#12)
That is not to hide from the fact that Russia’s unrelenting response continues to slaughter untold numbers of innocent people.
#15. To: Cynicom, all (#14)
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
#18. To: Cynicom (#17)
If he is such a bad guy or good guy, why not bomb the Ruskies, Georgia is our friend and they have a pipeline, Israel is a nothing.
#19. To: Cynicom (#17)
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Georgia is our friend and they have a pipeline
#20. To: Rotara (#18)
You may get your wish. NATO flyers in Turkey (just south of Georgia) are itching to fight Russkies. ;-)
#21. To: Cynicom (#20)
Nope, the Turks are greedy and self serving but not stupid.
#22. To: Rotara (#16)
UNreal.
#23. To: Rotara (#7)
#24. To: TwentyTwelve (#23)
Ezekiel 38 & 39 bump
#25. To: Rotara (#24)
#26. To: Rotara (#0)
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