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Title: Curfew in Helena, Arkansas: Martial law
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URL Source: http://www.diatribune.com/curfew-im ... a-arkansas-martial-law-america
Published: Aug 13, 2008
Author: various
Post Date: 2008-08-13 10:15:59 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 230
Comments: 11

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Good for the mayor... stopgap though.

Negro parents, as a rule, seem disposed not only to give larger liberty to their children than they ought, but they give absolute license in too many instances. In illustration of this fact, in cities particularly, children are allowed to go from their homes in the night-time and wander the streets amid their baleful associations until nine, ten, eleven o'clock and longer. And when they return home they do so unattended... This condition does not obtain alone among children of ignorant and poor parentage, but absence of good manners is also often found among children and youths who have had fair common and high school advantages. -- John Henry Smyth, 1902

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-13   16:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tauzero (#1)

The man has had enough

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-13   17:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Check out the bottom of the map for the appropriate "street". Look for it, it's there:

www.deltaculturalcenter.com/maps /

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-08-13   17:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

In Africa a strongman-dictator is the norm as a system of government.

Of course, young, upstart would-be warlords (drug deelas) would be the first to challenge the authority of the Helena Mayor.

The video said that the curfew is only in certain areas which of course means po' black, broke, welfaya nayborhoods. I think it's time we realize that rights are for those who are willing to respect the rights of others, and nothing good can come from opportunistic predator darkies hanging from branches on street corners all night long.

"I'm a nigga wid a nine!" the rap song sayz

"Go home nigga, it's past your curfew!" sayz the maya!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-08-13   19:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HOUNDDAWG, X-15 (#4)

Time to call in an air strike.

Crime-ridden Arkansas town expands 24-hour curfew

By JON GAMBRELL, Associated Press Writer

Wed Aug 13, 6:41 AM ET

HELENA-WEST HELENA, Ark. - Officers armed with military rifles have been stopping and questioning passers-by in a neighborhood plagued by violence that's been under a 24-hour curfew for a week.

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On Tuesday, the Helena-West Helena City Council voted 9-0 to allow police to expand that program into any area of the city, despite a warning from a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas that the police stops were unconstitutional.

Police Chief Fred Fielder said the patrols have netted 32 arrests since they began last week in a 10-block neighborhood in this small town on the banks of the Mississippi River long troubled by poverty. The council said those living in the city want the random shootings and drug-fueled violence to stop, no matter what the cost.

"Now if somebody wants to sue us, they have an option to sue, but I'm fairly certain that a judge will see it the way the way the citizens see it here," Mayor James Valley said. "The citizens deserve peace, that some infringement on constitutional rights is OK and we have not violated anything as far as the Constitution."

The area under curfew, in what used to be a West Helena neighborhood, sits among abandoned homes and occupied residences in disrepair.

White signs on large blue barrels warn those passing by that the area remains under curfew by order of Mayor James Valley. The order was scheduled to end at 3 p.m. Tuesday, but Valley said the city council's vote would allow police to have the same powers across Helena-West Helena.

Among the curfew operation's arrests, 10 came from felony charges, including the arrest of two people carrying both drugs and weapons, Fielder said. The police chief said the officers in the field carry military-style M-16 or M-4 rifles, some equipped with laser sights. Other officers carry short-barrel shotguns. Many dealing crack cocaine and marijuana in the city carry pistols and AK-47 assault rifles, he said.

"We've had people call us, expressing concern for their children," Fielder said. "They had to sleep on the floor, because of stray bullets."

Fielder said officers had not arrested anyone for violating the curfew, only questioned people about why they were outside. Those without good answers or acting nervously get additional attention, Fielder said.

However, such stops likely violate residents' constitutional rights to freely assemble and protections against unreasonable police searches, said Holly Dickson, a lawyer for the ACLU of Arkansas who addressed the council at its packed Tuesday meeting. Because of that, Dickson said any convictions coming from the arrests likely would be overturned.

"The residents of these high-crime areas are already victims," she said. "They're victims of what are happening in the neighborhoods, they're victims of fear. But for them to be subject to unlawful stops and questioning ... that is not going to ultimately going to help this situation."

The council rejected Dickson's claims, at one point questioning the Little Rock- based attorney if she'd live in a neighborhood they described as under siege by wild gunfire and gangs.

"As far as I'm concerned, at 3 o'clock in the morning, nobody has any business being on the street, except the law," Councilman Eugene "Red" Johnson said. "Anyone out at 3 o'clock shouldn't be out on the street, unless you're going to the hospital."

The curfew is the second under the mayor's watch since the rival cities of Helena and West Helena merged in 2006. That year, Valley set a nightly citywide curfew after a rash of burglaries and other thefts.

Police in Hartford, Conn., began enforcing a nightly curfew for youths after recent violence, including a weekend shooting that killed a man and wounded six young people.

Helena-West Helena, with 15,000 residents at the edge of Arkansas' eastern rice fields and farmland, is in one of the nation's poorest regions, trailing even parts of Appalachia in its standard of living.

In the curfew area, those inside the homes in the watch area peered out of door cracks Tuesday as police cruisers passed. They closed the doors afterward.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-13   20:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5) (Edited)

One way to compensate for all dem absentee daddies is with a strong police presence among the older black chil'ren.

And, regardless of the ACLU's position that "such stops likely violate residents' constitutional rights to freely assemble and protections against unreasonable police searches" the courts will rule that "the constitution is not a suicide pact."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-08-13   20:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HOUNDDAWG (#4)

"I'm a nigga wid a nine!" the rap song sayz

and I'm a honky with a ten.

I think it's time we realize that rights are for those who are willing to respect the rights of others, and nothing good can come from opportunistic predator darkies hanging from branches on street corners all night long.

It's this kind of shit that the authorities rely upon to deprive responsible people of their rights. I think every citizen has an obligation to keep his/her neighborhood peaceful ... even if they have to shoot a few niggers.

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

noone222  posted on  2008-08-13   20:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#7)

It's this kind of shit that the authorities rely upon to deprive responsible people of their rights. I think every citizen has an obligation to keep his/her neighborhood peaceful ... even if they have to shoot a few niggers.

Word!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-08-13   20:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15 (#3)

Look for it, it's there:

Sure is...never fails.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-08-13   21:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222, HOUNDDAWB, Jethro Tull, who knows what evil (#7) (Edited)

I think every citizen has an obligation to keep his/her neighborhood peaceful ... even if they have to shoot a few niggers.

A bucket of cyanide-laced KFC left on the hood of a Cadillace is silent, but deadly......

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-08-13   22:44:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: X-15 (#10)

A bucket of cyanide-laced KFC left on the hood of a Cadillace is silent, but deadly......

But indiscriminant.

Negro parents, as a rule, seem disposed not only to give larger liberty to their children than they ought, but they give absolute license in too many instances. In illustration of this fact, in cities particularly, children are allowed to go from their homes in the night-time and wander the streets amid their baleful associations until nine, ten, eleven o'clock and longer. And when they return home they do so unattended... This condition does not obtain alone among children of ignorant and poor parentage, but absence of good manners is also often found among children and youths who have had fair common and high school advantages. -- John Henry Smyth, 1902

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-14   12:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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