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Title: Dreams from My Father Is an Excellent Read (says I)
Source: Me
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Published: Aug 16, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-08-16 18:40:09 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Views: 2088
Comments: 68

To make it short, it's a book Obama wrote when he was about 32. Some 14-15 years ago. To my surprise, it's more than readable. It's captivating. His writing is thoughtful, uninhibited, unafraid - zero cliches or slogans. The style is flawless, the prose is almost musical in quality. Overall, it's a pleasure to read.

I bought the book a couple of days ago because I was in this bookstore and the Obama Nation 10-pounders were on display, wall-to-wall. That reminded me that some Obamophobe at this site suggested that I read some of Obama's own works so I could really see that kind of man he really is. I thought that his first book would be best because he wrote it at a time when he wasn't a politician yet or not a national politician for sure. I expected some of that wooden tongue scripts that politicians usually produce but, so far, it's an eye-opener and an unexpected surprise. I recommend that everyone reads this. It may not turn you into an Obama supporter - and he didn't write this 15 years ago to gain supporters - but you will, almost guaranteed, get to better know one of the more interesting politicians of the day and maybe better appreciate what it is to grow up as a super-bright 'minority'.

I only read the first 2 chapters today because I am busy studying for some professional certification but, every time I take a break, I go back to Obama's for a few more pages.

SURVEY: Has anyone actually read this book? Is anyone else reading it?

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#28. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#27)

good lord....give up the insanity that anyone here supports mccain. it's a poor deflection away from your sell out support for a black Marxist.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-17   21:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#27)

My goodness, such language.

I was not aware you were still posting here. There were several that departed for some other site and I thot you were among them.

It looks here as if Obummer is indeed your personal Savior. I hate to tell you but you been swindleed. Of course if you didnt send him any more moeny than you did Paul, then you are just half swindled.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   21:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

Notice how some people turn to "sex", "gay lifestyle" and body functions when their playbook is taken away????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   21:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

Some, despite having spent their Internet life learning that both parties reek, feel a need to support one branch over the other. When one buys that paradigm, they therefore need to identify anyone who disagrees with them as a member of the opposite party. How very, very ignorant.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-17   21:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull, a vast right wing conspirator (#31)

Well, my take is this.

American "voters" have made their choice, they want a bigger government, endless war is ok as long as they do not have to go and untold allegiance to Israel is fine with them.

These "voters" have selected McKooK and Obummer, both paid their dues at the Whining Wall in Israel. Therefore vast bows down in all due reverence to his selected Messiah. Replace Obummer with Ron Paul and Vast would be on his knees for McKooK. Whatever Tel Aviv says is ok with Vast.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   21:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#27)

Are you dreaming this same wet dream every night, where you wake up just before the tip of your tongue is about to touch McCain's a-hole?

come on, vast. that's gross and beneath you. further you know darn well that not one of the posters you're addressing on this thread are mcCain supporters.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-17   21:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#32) (Edited)

Vast is exhibit A in why America is over. Nothing we do is going to change things for the better as long as erstwhile intelligent people still allow themselves to become duped by a rigged system. Pull up a chair Cyni, and watch the parade of fools. I'll be damned if I'd waste my time or energy on anyone, be it RP, Baldwin, Barr, or the R or D. Every one of them is useless.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-17   21:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

I think I posted this a few days ago.

In the past I asked friends to support Paul, their reply was, "I cant I am a dem".

Now if I ask if they voting Obummer or McKooK, they say have not made up their mind. Voting either is like asking to be shot or hung, either way the result is the same.

Only the near sighted and people unable to think for themselves will support or vote for either loser.

I think this way..Regardless of which loser wins, we lose, therefore if Obummer wins and we fight Afghanistan he should draft all his supporters. Same for McKooK.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   21:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#33) (Edited)

Please take a look at what my reply was made to.

I can write nonsense as much as anyone else. It started with a couple of thoughtfuls suggesting that I view Obama as my personal savior - in fact, the guy who keeps having those indecent McCain dreams also has fantasies of me "running up and down the sidelines, yelling Obama is my Savior, Obama is my Savior".

I'm not sure that I can top that level of absurdity but one can always try.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-17   22:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#36)

Vast...

What little I recall of you was that when Americans here on the forum were looking for someone to represent Americans...all you did was run up and down the sidelines shouting "Paul cant win, Paul cant win".

Correct me if I am incorrect. To my recollection no one descended into gutter street language in reply for anything you had to say.

Your words..is an excellent read...

Having read excerpts from the book, I found several quotes by Obama that were also gutter street language. A Harvard graduate and he stands by such writing?

You are entitled to your opinion, one that is not shared by Americans.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   22:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#25)

I heard Obama noting something interesting during last night questioning by the mega-pastor.

He observed that during Bush's presidency - who is supposedly the pro-lifest of them all - the number of abortion in the US did NOT decrease. And then he killed like a million Iraqis and Afghans on top of that.

So the importance of electing a pro-lifer as a prez seems to be crap.

Never heard Obama say anything that was very interesting. He can't talk without a script and a teleprompter and could well be about as stupid as Bush.

Bush talks a good game but he is all hat and no cattle. Do you really believe that a member of a Satanic society like Skull and Bones, which Bush is a member of and which he has never denounced, actually cares about human lives other than his own and whatever few people he actually cares anything about? Anyone who believes any such stupid thing, that Bush or any other establishment politician cares for them is too stupid to be out loose.

It would be great to have a real pro-life president. Unfortunately Bush hasn't been that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-17   22:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#32)

The pressures to convert ANY elected politician are enormous beyond belief. I happen to have some understanding on how these things work, at all levels because I've been betrayed myself by someone whom sometimes I viewed as a friend but who chose to 'play ball' instead. I can't say that I know of anyone who preserved his purity while playing the game of politics.

On the continuum, you have those who decided to 'play ball' before they even started playing. McCain, of the Keating Five is one of them. He's been assimilated 20 or 25 years ago if not earlier. In the middle, you have the vast majority who run for office hoping to do some good and get swallowed and assimilated - little Dr. Faustus types, selling their souls in exchange for something they thought was worth the exchange, then caught in the web and damned forever. Obama is one of the few who didn't sell out completely. He clearly does 'play ball' on many levels but he still has some purity and dignity left in him. Not a lot but enough to make him stand up head and shoulders above the insane, senile crook McCain.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-17   22:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#37)

Americans here on the forum were looking for someone to represent Americans...all you did was run up and down the sidelines shouting "Paul cant win, Paul cant win".

And I was right, wasn't I?

In fact, I said, 'he won't be winning ONE SINGLE STATE' and I was right. And, if you want to quote me honestly, I was saying that it's stupid of him to RUN AS A GOP for THE GOP NOMINATION, (NOT FOR PRESIDENT) and hope to win. I also said that he was going to legitimize the GOP by associating himself with the party of torture, invasion, mass murder and pedophilia.

And I was right. No?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-17   22:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: James Deffenbach (#38)

He can't talk without a script and a teleprompter and could well be about as stupid as Bush.

Sorry, friend, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

He talked with a mega-preacher yesterday for one hour, without a script a teleprompter. He projected intelligence, thoughtfulness, humanity.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-17   22:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#39)

Vast...

You seem to have an obsession with McKooK. What seems to be the problem that when everyone agrees with you, you keep on with the same olde saw?????

Recall Paul cant win?????? And everyone agreed with you?????

That fixation tends to blind you to reality. It is easier now to understand why you are in fact and deed nothing but a partisan democrat, not a free thinking man and most certainly not an American.

Anyone that supports and or votes for McKooK or Obummer, is NOT an American.

The party hacks will get in line and vote obediently as programmed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   22:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#24)

You're funny, and a hypocrite, and exactly what is wrong with America.

If, in a book, a white politician had written the following:

That's just how black folk will do ya.

Would that person even be in the race for President, much less be lauded by you as the Second Coming?

You're such a two-faced joke of a double-standard. You have no honor and no integrity whatsoever.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-08-17   22:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#39)

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Obama is one of the few who didn't sell out completely. He clearly does 'play ball' on many levels but he still has some purity and dignity left in him.

You have some knack for comedic writing.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-17   22:45:53 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Cynicom (#42)

Define 'American', and I will let you know if I'm one that fits your definition. I believe I stopped paying much attention to labels while in senior high school but labels don't bother me much either so, I don't really care. While in college I was an open and quite vocal anti-communist but I was wearing a Chairman Mao pin (and a Jimi Hendrix one next to it), just for the fun of it.

Now, wake up and smell the gourmet coffee. You say that anyone who votes for McCain or Obama is not an American. Well... half of the grownups are going to vote for one of the 2. Possibly more than half. Of the rest, the vast majority couldn't care less of who's the prez, for as long as they get to watch their Oprahs and Jerry Springers or inebriate themselves while watching 'sports' on the teevee. So... who are the Americans and what makes them so?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-17   22:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#41)

Sorry, friend, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

He talked with a mega-preacher yesterday for one hour, without a script a teleprompter. He projected intelligence, thoughtfulness, humanity.

You wasted a whole hour of your life watching that establishment toady and tell me I don't know what I am talking about? Have you ever read any of the transcripts where that guy is trying to talk without a script or teleprompter? I have and it's sad. He almost makes Bush look about half smart and that takes some doing.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-17   22:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: James Deffenbach (#44)

purity and dignity left in him.

Now that is a real knee slapper.

Read the coarse vulgar language of this Harvard graduate and show me "purity" or "dignity".

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   22:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: James Deffenbach (#44)

You have some knack for comedic writing.

On the other hand, you don't. :)

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-17   22:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#45)

Vast...Short definition for "American"...

American...One that rejects all proponents of and adherents to the political system of the United States.

That makes you a NON American.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   22:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#47)

Read the coarse vulgar language of this Harvard graduate and show me "purity" or "dignity".

I have read more than enough of Obama's stupid bs to last any reasonable man a lifetime. Wouldn't give a nickel to buy a book that contains every word the nut has ever uttered. And I wasn't the one who said he had any "purity" or "dignity" because I don't think he would even know what those words mean.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-17   22:58:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Cynicom (#47)

Alright, boys. Got to go to bed but I can't say that I didn't learn something today.

And, what I learned is that you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. You really don't. As instances of some collective 'mind' you look as ridiculous and cooky to most normal people as your counterparts at the FR do. You are completely incapable of debating anything because you are uninformed and, apparently, proud to be that way. Your minds are not closed, but locked up and hidden inside some impenetrable vault whose walls are opaque to anything that resembles a thoughtful expression.

It's funny to watch your 'debating' that, invariably is 'yes', 'ditto', 'aha', 'me too' when you see something that fits your narrow programming or loud personal attacks if it doesn't.

Don't worry, I'm not writing an 'opus'. I'm planning to be back and have more fun with you, but not tonite.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-17   23:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

And I wasn't the one who said he had any "purity" or "dignity" because I don't think he would even know what those words mean.

I should have noted I was quoting Mr. vast one of Obamas worshippers.

Now we know from whence come the untold millions that have poured into his coffers.

Not from Mom and Pop Black, but rather from knee padding, white guilters.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   23:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#51)

Vast...You forgot that we do not use coarse and vulgar language???? Is that not worth something?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   23:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#52)

I should have noted I was quoting Mr. vast one of Obamas worshippers.

Now we know from whence come the untold millions that have poured into his coffers.

Not from Mom and Pop Black, but rather from knee padding, white guilters.

One of the reasons America is on its last trip around the bowl.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-17   23:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: James Deffenbach (#54)

James...

Obummer is on course to haul in a HALF BILLION dollars.

That goes beyond obscene and the partisans see nothing wrong with the system.

If Obama wins, the McKooK people will blame us. If McKooK wins the Obama people will blame us and call us racists.

Again, no matter which loser wins, we lose.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   23:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#41)

This is the guy you want everyone to believe is so intelligent that he is a good candidate for Mensa? Listen to all the stuttering and stammering in a little video clip that is less than 2 and 1/2 minutes long. He's every bit as retarded as Bush.

And take a listen to this, it is scary.
http://www.maarked.com/2008/07/22/barack-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-obama/

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-17   23:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom (#55)

Again, no matter which loser wins, we lose.

Yeah, and America loses. Not that any of the partisans for either of those stooges seem to care.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-17   23:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: James Deffenbach (#56)

Having listened to the tape, Obummer seems to have a disconnect between his brain and mouth, a short circuit at times if you will.

McKooK on the other hand just rambles on and after awhile no one remembers what the question was.

I now understand why Obummer has a "degree" in political science.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-17   23:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Cynicom (#58)

I now understand why Obummer has a "degree" in political science.

Must have been the easiest course they offered. Almost had to be for him to pass it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-17   23:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#40)

And, if you want to quote me honestly, I was saying that it's stupid of him to RUN AS A GOP for THE GOP NOMINATION, (NOT FOR PRESIDENT) and hope to win. I also said that he was going to legitimize the GOP by associating himself with the party of torture, invasion, mass murder and pedophilia.

you were indeed vindicated on those points.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-18   0:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: James Deffenbach (#59)

He graduated with a Juris Doctor magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991. If you think that is easy to do, you need to stop smoking whatever it is you smoke while posting in here.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-18   1:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: christine (#33)

you know darn well that not one of the posters you're addressing on this thread are mcCain supporters.

You hope not, but you nor I nor anyone else knows for sure what their proclivities are. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be shocked if some of the more prolific posters vote McCain. 4um witnessed the Obamites come out; the McCainites are there as well imo.

angle  posted on  2008-08-18   1:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ferret Mike (#61)

He graduated with a Juris Doctor magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991. If you think that is easy to do, you need to stop smoking whatever it is you smoke while posting in here.

And we should be impressed with him because of that?

http://www.maarked.com/2008/07/22/barack-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-obama/

There is your hero in all his glory sounding as retarded as he wants to. And apparently he deserves some kind of an award for it. As for your remark about whatever it is I smoke I don't smoke anything at all and haven't for a lot of years.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-18   1:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: angle (#62)

You hope not, but you nor I nor anyone else knows for sure what their proclivities are. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be shocked if some of the more prolific posters vote McCain. 4um witnessed the Obamites come out; the McCainites are there as well imo.

If you believe there are McCain supporters on here why not put up some evidence of it such as posts favorable to him? I haven't seen any. That doesn't mean there aren't any of course but I sure haven't seen them if they are here. Just because people don't like that empty suit, Obama, doesn't automatically make them fools who like McCain.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-18   1:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: James Deffenbach (#64)

Just because people don't like that empty suit, Obama, doesn't automatically make them fools who like McCain.

As am I in that group. Yet the tone of some posts give me reason to suspect McCain has more support with some that have not the courage to admit to. I might well be mistaken.

angle  posted on  2008-08-18   2:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: James Deffenbach (#64)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=85412

Close U.S. Election contest comes as a surprise

angle  posted on  2008-08-18   2:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: angle (#65)

As am I in that group. Yet the tone of some posts give me reason to suspect McCain has more support with some that have not the courage to admit to. I might well be mistaken.

I would be very surprised if even as many as half a dozen people on this board supported either one of those nitwits. I have seen the fawning, slavish devotion of the Obama fans and it about makes me puke but there aren't many of them, at least not that I have seen. And I have not seen any posts that I would call favorable to McCain.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-18   9:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: angle (#66)

Thanks for the link. I believe I saw that article--not surprising that they say it will be close, they probably have the machines set for a close "election." But I think it can be said with certainty that the establishment will have their puppet no matter which one of those clowns "win." Sadly though, America will lose.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-18   9:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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