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Title: Barack McCain Faith Matchup - live on the Teevee NOW!!!
Source: C-Span
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Published: Aug 16, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-08-16 20:04:48 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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OBAMA

First impression: Obama has LOTS of gray hears - I am watching this in HD.

He looks tanned, not wrinkled.

His greatest moral failure is his ego-centrism. America's greatest moral failure is for not caring enough about the least of us - came out with some Bible quote there.

His biggest 'flip-flop' - welfare reform. He didn't think that it was going to work at the time but now he is convinced that 'work' should be part of it because it gives one dignity, a sense of purpose.

His most difficult decision: his stand on the war in Iraq because Saddam was such a bad boy.

The meaning of trusting in Christ: Jesus died for his sins and he's redeemed through him. It's also a sense of obligation to embrace not just words but deeds such as thinking about the least of us, acting with love and mercy and walking humble, knowing that you'll be falling short each day.

40 million abortions. When does the baby get human rights: can't say for sure. It's a moral and ethical thing. He is pro-choice because he doesn't think that women make this decision casually. He wants to reduce the number of abortions - they did not go down under pro-life George W. Wants to provide resources that allow women to keep a child.

Define marriage: a man and a woman (applause). As a Christian, he views it as a sacred union with God in the midst. Won't support a constitutional amendment because it's a matter of State law. He does not promote same-sex marriage but he's for homo civil unions.

Stem cells federal funding: it's okay to use embryos that would be discarded otherwise, following in-vitro procedures.

Does evil exist? Yes. In Darfour. On the streets of our cities. Parents who abuse their children. It has to be confronted. Only God can erase evil but we can be soldiers on God's side. A lot of evil has been perpetrated on the claim that we were fighting evil.

Which supreme court justice he would have not nominated: Clarence Thomas. He wasn't strong enough at the time of his nomination. Scalia - he's brilliant but they disagree. Roberts is compelling, thoughtful but he voted against his nomination because he doesn't protect the other 2 branches from the executive branch.

Faith-based orgs - would he suggest that they follow federal hiring standards so that they get feds money (like hiring homos): they should hire whomever they want when it comes to their church but for federally-funded programs they should make sure that there's no discrimination while using federal money. The feds should treat them as they do anyone else.

Education - we're 19 in education, #1 in incarceration. Should better teacher be paid better? Supports performance pay, reward excellence.

Taxes - define 'rich' with a dollar figure: $150,000 is middle class. $250,000+ is well-to-do (top 3-4%). We got to pay for things and it's irresponsible to spend $10 billion for a war and not pay for it. $150,000 or less means you get a tax cut. $250,000 or more means your taxes go up.

War - what's worth dying for? National interests. Help allies.

Criteria for sending troops to end genocide: if we have the power to prevent it and there is international participation. He approves of Bosnia.

Orphans: should help them.

Religious persecution, like in China: don't like it. We don't want to go to war with China and we owe them money. But we can't ignore it either. Talk about it in international forums and make freedom of religion a universal principle. Lead by example - respect our own laws, don't torture people.

Human trafficking: top priority. There's bipartisan agreement. We have thousands of 'slaves' even in our country - prostitutes.

Why he wants to be prez? Empathy. Feels like the American dream is slipping away. He has the ability to build bridges across party, racial, social lines.

About people who are against this event: people can make a good judgement if they are better informed. He wants people to know him well and he trust the people to make the right decisions.

What would he tell Americans if there were no repercussions: solving the energy problem won't be easy. Stop pretending that everything is free. We must make sacrifices on behalf of the next generation.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-16   20:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The one video McCain does not want people to see

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-08-16   20:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

McCAIN

First impression: dead flesh on his face. Near-albino eyes - I am watching this in HD.

The 3 wisest people he would deal with: General Petraeus. John Lewis(??). Meg Whitman??? the CEO of eBay. (barf, barf, barf)

His greatest moral failure: his first marriage. America's failure: we did not devote ourselves to causes other than our interest. After 9/11 we should not have called for people to go shopping but to join the Peace Corps. Serve a cause greater than your self interest.

Example of his leading against his party interests: spending, torture. He loves Reagan but he opposed Reagan to send peace keepers to Lebanon.

His biggest 'flip-flop' - offshore drilling. It's a national security issue because we're sending money to terrorists. We gotta do everything - wind, nukular, cars, everything. The French do nukes and now they got a pro-American prez in France (okay???)

His most difficult decision: in a prison camp. He didn't leave early because they had a code that said first-in-first-out. (Was this supposed to be difficult??) He's now happy about it but it was tough then. Oh, and it took a lot of prayer.

The meaning of trusting in Christ: means he's saved and forgiven. Ahhh... back to story from Vietnam. Something about pulling his biceps? Zzzzzz... dirt... Christmas... cross... Zzzzzz... Christians worshipping together...

40 million abortions. When does the baby get human rights: at conception (applause). He has a 25-year pro-life record. He'll have a pro-life policy.

Define marriage: union between one man and one woman. (ooops, he forgot about God being part of it). He believes that the States should make the decisions. But homo unions are okay.

Stem cells federal funding: he's in the pro-life community. He is for it but hopes that they should come from skin.

Does evil exist? We should defeat it. He will follow Osama to the gates of Hell. Propaganda follows. Looks like evil is AlQueda. David Petraeus again. We're winning and we got honor. Wait... AlQueda is everywhere. Even in America.

Which supreme court justice he would have not nominated: Ginsburg, Breier, Sutter, Stevens. The criteria should be not be legislating from the bench.

Faith-based orgs - they should not be forced to follow federal guidelines in hiring if they are to get federal funds. Story about New Orleans (tearjerkers) follows.

Education - we're 19 in education, #1 in incarceration. Should better teacher be paid better? Yes and fire bad teachers. Competition. Home schooling. Choice. Charter schools. Vouchers ("vouchers works")

Taxes - define 'rich' with a dollar figure: rich people are unhappy people. Rich means home, good job, education. He wants everybody to get rich. Some people work a lot. Give everyone tax credits for children and school. $5 million is rich. We want to keep taxes low and increase revenue (majic). It's not the taxes, it's the spending. Study bear DNA in Montana for $3 million. Americans are sitting at the kitchen table, education, health care... we got to give them hope and confidence in the future. And he can inspire and lead.

When do right to privacy and national security collide? Preserve it as much as possible, including secret ballot for unions(???). We got to monitor what people are saying to each other. The DemoGOPs should sit down and agree on spying on people for the good of our nation's security.

War - what's worth dying for? Freedom. Our national security. There's tyranny and there's tragedy and we can't fix everything but we must be a beacon of hope and freedom. There are conflicts that we can settle. We historically went in the world and killed and got killed. And Communism was evil. Ahhh... Georgia...

Criteria for sending troops to end genocide: Our obligation is to stop genocide wherever we can. Cindy was in Rwanda and they got women there who are taking charge. Darfour is how we stop it effectively - we got to do more. We got to supply the logistics and let the niggers send their troops. He's saddened about Georgia. Killing, villages, 180,000 people. The earliest Christian nations. The king converted to Christianity. President Shakakhan was educated in the US and with other young people who also received education and now... the Russians committed an act of aggression. The Russians must respect the territorial integrity of Georgia. It's a beautiful little country. Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Estonia... Energy. There's an oil pipeline [man... this gets him fired up]. Send the Russian message that it's not acceptable. Belarus is one of the world's darkest corners but the Belarussians want to be like us. Judeo Christians.

Orphans: make adoption easier.

Religious persecution, like in China:

Human trafficking:

Why he wants to be prez? He wants to teach Americans to serve a cause greater than them. We should all come together (an orgy?). He always put his country first in the military and in congress. America wants us all to sit down together. It's time to put our country first. He wants every American to know that when he goes to Alabama and meets black women there, he will always put his country first.

About people who are against this event: he wants to be in every venue in America. Judeo-Christian principles... peace, outreach. He's honored to be there.

What would he tell Americans if there were no repercussions:

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-16   21:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A: mcCain, Fobama and CFRick Warren

Q: Who are 3 new world order puppets putting on a "I love Jesus" show for the sheep?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-16   21:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

McCain has tried to cry twice....I can't take it anymore I swear it's all over ....off to watch the Food Channel

robnoel  posted on  2008-08-16   21:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks, vast. not watching so i appreciate the synopsis.

(amused at your physical descrip of each with your HD tv)

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christine  posted on  2008-08-16   21:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the Food Channel

I can't believe I clicked on it, is tFC better than HGTV? ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-16   21:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Food Channel over the Olympics?

(i heard the church crowd is wildly cheering mcCain. you're right it's all over)

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christine  posted on  2008-08-16   21:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Food Channel over the Olympics?

Chicom Olympics, the cover for starting a war with Georgia. China sending in underage children and lying about it. Yuck! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-16   21:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Secrets of a Restaurant Chef....you kidding me.. love it she is great...and FYI ...her boobs have nothing to do with it

www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_lr

robnoel  posted on  2008-08-16   21:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Go to posts #1 and #3 for what they said so you don't have to watch it.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-16   21:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

mcCain: Russia & Georgia

My goodness juan is full of poop!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-16   21:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

her boobs have nothing to do with it

i don't doubt that for a moment ;)

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-16   21:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i read them. that's why i thanked you. ;)

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christine  posted on  2008-08-16   21:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No really(only kidding)she did a meat sauce that I tried last week it was the best ever :-)

robnoel  posted on  2008-08-16   21:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your greatest personal moral failure?

"My first marriage"

Wow, Juan mcCain is pulling out ALL the stops! This is better than watching him pander to AIPAC and La Raza! ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-16   21:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for your synopsis - what McCain said is really funny, that is, if he were running for President of Timbuktu.

I love this part though there were so many goodies to pick and choose from:

"Example of his leading against his party interests: spending, torture."

I swear, McCrazy is doing his best to throw the election. He actually said that the GOP stands for - in the main, except for his single lone voice in the Republican value-free, immoral, unethical wilderness - wasting taxpayers' money and torture?????

Man oh man. McCrazy has to be getting $ from the Dimwits, deposited to a Swiss bank account. Absolutely. What a laugh!

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-16   21:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's over now. It seems like McCain obsessions are Georgia and Russia. Evil equals AlQueda in Osama though. So... what's Russia? He called Belarus a dark corner on Earth.

P.S. - I dated a girl from Belarus some years ago. She was a happy person and had the most gravity-defying... you know what that I've ever seen. She didn't feel like Belarus was a dark place. In fact, she returned there happily - she was here for a summer job.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-16   21:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i like the track and field. US's fastest sprinter, Tyson Gay, didn't make it to the 100 meter finals though.

and, Michael Phelps' win in the 100 meter butterfly was goosebump eliciting.

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christine  posted on  2008-08-16   21:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's interesting that on the question of privacy (Obama didn't get that one) McCain believes that the most urgent priority if to make up some legal ways to spy on everyone.

Oh... and one of 3 wisest people... the CEO woman of eBay???

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-16   21:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You think Obama might hire me as a sunbeam?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-16   22:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Michael Phelps' win in the 100 meter butterfly was goosebump eliciting.

Was that #8?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-16   22:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the CEO woman of eBay

this guy is definitely moronically on par with bush.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-16   22:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

7th. he's going for the 8th in a relay tonight.

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christine  posted on  2008-08-16   22:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i'll email him and put in a good word for you.

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christine  posted on  2008-08-16   22:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I would call the founder of eBay 'entrepreneurial' but... wise??? One wonders about his definition of wisdom.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-16   22:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i'll email him and put in a good word for you.

Sweet, I'll send you some nice wallpaper.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-16   22:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's interesting that on the question of privacy (Obama didn't get that one) McCain believes that the most urgent priority if to make up some legal ways to spy on everyone.

Oh... and one of 3 wisest people... the CEO woman of eBay???

Oh but of course...spying on American citizens - legally not illegally - keeps us safe and free and that's why "they" hate us - because of our being spied on legally by our government to keep us democratic. Round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows... except for McCrazy - he sees "the mission."

Well it's perfectly understandable that McCrazy would admire the CEO of eBay - yasee, he's against "spending" ( unlike his "esteemed" GOP colleagues) but he loves selling!!!! Yippee, that's McCrazy for you - there's method and logic in his madness.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-16   22:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

spying on American citizens - legally not illegally - keeps us safe and free and that's why "they" envy us - because of our being spied on legally by our government to keep us democratic.

goldfish don't ever act like me...

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-16   22:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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