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Title: Barack McCain Faith Matchup - live on the Teevee NOW!!!
Source: C-Span
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Published: Aug 16, 2008
Author: N/A
Post Date: 2008-08-16 20:04:48 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Views: 356
Comments: 29

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#1. To: All (#0) (Edited)

OBAMA

First impression: Obama has LOTS of gray hears - I am watching this in HD.

He looks tanned, not wrinkled.

His greatest moral failure is his ego-centrism. America's greatest moral failure is for not caring enough about the least of us - came out with some Bible quote there.

His biggest 'flip-flop' - welfare reform. He didn't think that it was going to work at the time but now he is convinced that 'work' should be part of it because it gives one dignity, a sense of purpose.

His most difficult decision: his stand on the war in Iraq because Saddam was such a bad boy.

The meaning of trusting in Christ: Jesus died for his sins and he's redeemed through him. It's also a sense of obligation to embrace not just words but deeds such as thinking about the least of us, acting with love and mercy and walking humble, knowing that you'll be falling short each day.

40 million abortions. When does the baby get human rights: can't say for sure. It's a moral and ethical thing. He is pro-choice because he doesn't think that women make this decision casually. He wants to reduce the number of abortions - they did not go down under pro-life George W. Wants to provide resources that allow women to keep a child.

Define marriage: a man and a woman (applause). As a Christian, he views it as a sacred union with God in the midst. Won't support a constitutional amendment because it's a matter of State law. He does not promote same-sex marriage but he's for homo civil unions.

Stem cells federal funding: it's okay to use embryos that would be discarded otherwise, following in-vitro procedures.

Does evil exist? Yes. In Darfour. On the streets of our cities. Parents who abuse their children. It has to be confronted. Only God can erase evil but we can be soldiers on God's side. A lot of evil has been perpetrated on the claim that we were fighting evil.

Which supreme court justice he would have not nominated: Clarence Thomas. He wasn't strong enough at the time of his nomination. Scalia - he's brilliant but they disagree. Roberts is compelling, thoughtful but he voted against his nomination because he doesn't protect the other 2 branches from the executive branch.

Faith-based orgs - would he suggest that they follow federal hiring standards so that they get feds money (like hiring homos): they should hire whomever they want when it comes to their church but for federally-funded programs they should make sure that there's no discrimination while using federal money. The feds should treat them as they do anyone else.

Education - we're 19 in education, #1 in incarceration. Should better teacher be paid better? Supports performance pay, reward excellence.

Taxes - define 'rich' with a dollar figure: $150,000 is middle class. $250,000+ is well-to-do (top 3-4%). We got to pay for things and it's irresponsible to spend $10 billion for a war and not pay for it. $150,000 or less means you get a tax cut. $250,000 or more means your taxes go up.

War - what's worth dying for? National interests. Help allies.

Criteria for sending troops to end genocide: if we have the power to prevent it and there is international participation. He approves of Bosnia.

Orphans: should help them.

Religious persecution, like in China: don't like it. We don't want to go to war with China and we owe them money. But we can't ignore it either. Talk about it in international forums and make freedom of religion a universal principle. Lead by example - respect our own laws, don't torture people.

Human trafficking: top priority. There's bipartisan agreement. We have thousands of 'slaves' even in our country - prostitutes.

Why he wants to be prez? Empathy. Feels like the American dream is slipping away. He has the ability to build bridges across party, racial, social lines.

About people who are against this event: people can make a good judgement if they are better informed. He wants people to know him well and he trust the people to make the right decisions.

What would he tell Americans if there were no repercussions: solving the energy problem won't be easy. Stop pretending that everything is free. We must make sacrifices on behalf of the next generation.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-16   20:06:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#1) (Edited)

McCAIN

First impression: dead flesh on his face. Near-albino eyes - I am watching this in HD.

The 3 wisest people he would deal with: General Petraeus. John Lewis(??). Meg Whitman??? the CEO of eBay. (barf, barf, barf)

His greatest moral failure: his first marriage. America's failure: we did not devote ourselves to causes other than our interest. After 9/11 we should not have called for people to go shopping but to join the Peace Corps. Serve a cause greater than your self interest.

Example of his leading against his party interests: spending, torture. He loves Reagan but he opposed Reagan to send peace keepers to Lebanon.

His biggest 'flip-flop' - offshore drilling. It's a national security issue because we're sending money to terrorists. We gotta do everything - wind, nukular, cars, everything. The French do nukes and now they got a pro-American prez in France (okay???)

His most difficult decision: in a prison camp. He didn't leave early because they had a code that said first-in-first-out. (Was this supposed to be difficult??) He's now happy about it but it was tough then. Oh, and it took a lot of prayer.

The meaning of trusting in Christ: means he's saved and forgiven. Ahhh... back to story from Vietnam. Something about pulling his biceps? Zzzzzz... dirt... Christmas... cross... Zzzzzz... Christians worshipping together...

40 million abortions. When does the baby get human rights: at conception (applause). He has a 25-year pro-life record. He'll have a pro-life policy.

Define marriage: union between one man and one woman. (ooops, he forgot about God being part of it). He believes that the States should make the decisions. But homo unions are okay.

Stem cells federal funding: he's in the pro-life community. He is for it but hopes that they should come from skin.

Does evil exist? We should defeat it. He will follow Osama to the gates of Hell. Propaganda follows. Looks like evil is AlQueda. David Petraeus again. We're winning and we got honor. Wait... AlQueda is everywhere. Even in America.

Which supreme court justice he would have not nominated: Ginsburg, Breier, Sutter, Stevens. The criteria should be not be legislating from the bench.

Faith-based orgs - they should not be forced to follow federal guidelines in hiring if they are to get federal funds. Story about New Orleans (tearjerkers) follows.

Education - we're 19 in education, #1 in incarceration. Should better teacher be paid better? Yes and fire bad teachers. Competition. Home schooling. Choice. Charter schools. Vouchers ("vouchers works")

Taxes - define 'rich' with a dollar figure: rich people are unhappy people. Rich means home, good job, education. He wants everybody to get rich. Some people work a lot. Give everyone tax credits for children and school. $5 million is rich. We want to keep taxes low and increase revenue (majic). It's not the taxes, it's the spending. Study bear DNA in Montana for $3 million. Americans are sitting at the kitchen table, education, health care... we got to give them hope and confidence in the future. And he can inspire and lead.

When do right to privacy and national security collide? Preserve it as much as possible, including secret ballot for unions(???). We got to monitor what people are saying to each other. The DemoGOPs should sit down and agree on spying on people for the good of our nation's security.

War - what's worth dying for? Freedom. Our national security. There's tyranny and there's tragedy and we can't fix everything but we must be a beacon of hope and freedom. There are conflicts that we can settle. We historically went in the world and killed and got killed. And Communism was evil. Ahhh... Georgia...

Criteria for sending troops to end genocide: Our obligation is to stop genocide wherever we can. Cindy was in Rwanda and they got women there who are taking charge. Darfour is how we stop it effectively - we got to do more. We got to supply the logistics and let the niggers send their troops. He's saddened about Georgia. Killing, villages, 180,000 people. The earliest Christian nations. The king converted to Christianity. President Shakakhan was educated in the US and with other young people who also received education and now... the Russians committed an act of aggression. The Russians must respect the territorial integrity of Georgia. It's a beautiful little country. Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Estonia... Energy. There's an oil pipeline [man... this gets him fired up]. Send the Russian message that it's not acceptable. Belarus is one of the world's darkest corners but the Belarussians want to be like us. Judeo Christians.

Orphans: make adoption easier.

Religious persecution, like in China:

Human trafficking:

Why he wants to be prez? He wants to teach Americans to serve a cause greater than them. We should all come together (an orgy?). He always put his country first in the military and in congress. America wants us all to sit down together. It's time to put our country first. He wants every American to know that when he goes to Alabama and meets black women there, he will always put his country first.

About people who are against this event: he wants to be in every venue in America. Judeo-Christian principles... peace, outreach. He's honored to be there.

What would he tell Americans if there were no repercussions:

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-16   21:01:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3) (Edited)

McCain has tried to cry twice....I can't take it anymore I swear it's all over ....off to watch the Food Channel

robnoel  posted on  2008-08-16   21:19:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: robnoel (#5)

the Food Channel

I can't believe I clicked on it, is tFC better than HGTV? ;-)

Rotara  posted on  2008-08-16 21:25:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robnoel (#5)

Food Channel over the Olympics?

(i heard the church crowd is wildly cheering mcCain. you're right it's all over)

christine  posted on  2008-08-16 21:26:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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