It is him or Bob Barr. Barr voted for the Patriot act without reading it.
Is Barr for NAFTA and GATT too?
I can vote for Chuck too. He is the best man running (and I would say that even if his "competition" were a whole lot better than McCain and Obama--to say that he is better than them is no great compliment). I would have loved to have seen a ticket with Ron and Chuck, that would have been as good as we could have wanted or hoped for.
I'll prolly end up voting for Baldwin, he seems to be only candidate left that actually has a soul. I guess that's what bothers me about Barr, he always seemed up for grabs.
The way I see it Baldwin is the very best running and I hope he makes it on the ballot where I live. If he doesn't there won't be much use in wasting the gas to go to the polls. I sure won't vote for McCain or Obama.
The way I see it Baldwin is the very best running and I hope he makes it on the ballot where I live. If he doesn't there won't be much use in wasting the gas to go to the polls. I sure won't vote for McCain or Obama.
Baldwin supports The Defense Of Marriage Act and and a national abortion ban. But, he (says he) believes that medical marijuana is a state issue and the feds shouldn't get involved.
Do you believe in a federal DOMA and abortion ban? Will an abortion ban stop abortions or create a black market and a new class of "criminals and border jumpers" just as Prohibition did and federal drug laws have done?
As a Christian pastor it would be incumbent upon him as president to punish anyone who went to Canada for an abortion just as our govt would punish someone who goes there for marijuana now.
Do you support codifying his morality into law and enforcing it with criminal penalties? Why is that preferable to Bush's? There are millions of cops and other "drug warriors" (hooked on asset forfeiture) who'd rather keep marijuana illegal and (forced to choose) keep legal abortion. To hear them tell it, marijuana is deadly and dangerous because that's what their "religion" teaches.
Shouldn't all who'd use the power of the state to enforce their personal beliefs get out of our bodies and out of our lives?
Why is one group of hypocritical kooks preferable to another?
Do you believe in a federal DOMA and abortion ban? Will an abortion ban stop abortions or create a black market and a new class of "criminals and border jumpers" just as Prohibition did and federal drug laws have done?
Actually, I don't think the government should be involved in the marriage issue and don't believe in getting a license from the state to get married. As for the abortion ban, I am opposed to abortion and that is a perfectly libertarian position--non aggression, especially not against the innocent and who is more innocent than a baby? Would an abortion ban or law against abortion completely end abortions? No, of course not.
All I have said is that Chuck Baldwin is infinitely preferable to Obama, who doesn't even mind infanticide, and McCain, who seems to think that it is perfectly all right to kill any number of Americans in bs wars for the benefit of the MIC and the bankers.
As for the abortion ban, I am opposed to abortion and that is a perfectly libertarian position--non aggression, especially not against the innocent and who is more innocent than a baby? Would an abortion ban or law against abortion completely end abortions? No, of course not.
You cannot take control of another person's body with the law and claim to support the non aggression principle. How would you even know if someone is pregnant without violating the principle and their right to privacy?
And, if Baldwin spoke out against America's military imperialism and demanded that the money stay in the pockets of taxpayers, (close 700 bases in 130 countries) then how many families would feel pressured to terminate pregnancies because we can no longer keep mothers at home and survive on a single income?
The federal govt is the cause of so many of the problems they pretend to try to solve (and always with criminal sanctions not "socialist subsidies" to expectant mothers because that money is earmarked for military contractors and Israel) and they, the true criminals create boogie persons (some class of citizens, but never "too much govt" or over reaching power hungry politicians and their fellow closet mates, Christian fanatics) to keep us from seeing the truth.
Does Baldwin have the courage to stand up and say "Christians don't need to hyphenate with "Judeos" and aren't dependent upon Jews, Israel, Zionism, or the ADL stamp of approval for legitimacy"?
Of course not. he's just another cowardly, Jooish bootlicking business-as-usual politician without as much apparent baggage at the starting gate.
Any attempt to sell him as "Ron Paul Lite" is horse shit.
Why don't you ask Chuck if he'd consider taking the billions in aid from Israel and spending it on poor mommies in America? Then watch how these "Christians" piously chirp why maintaining the Israeli war machine to slaughter unarmed innocents is "more holy" than saving unborn Americans.
You cannot take control of another person's body with the law and claim to support the non aggression principle. How would you even know if someone is pregnant without violating the principle and their right to privacy?
You cannot murder your child. What makes it ok one minute and not the next. What about if someone hits your wife in the stomach and kills the unborn. Should they be charge.? If you say yes then you are a hypocrite. If you say no then your a heartless SOB.
I say outlaw all abortions. If the bitch wants to get a back alley abortion and ends up bleeding to death. At least justice was served instantly with no judge or jury. Attempted murder...get it?
I say outlaw all abortions. If the bitch wants to get a back alley abortion and ends up bleeding to death. At least justice was served instantly with no judge or jury. Attempted murder...get it?
Wow, just say wow! Old Friend, you are quite the little poster boy for all them down home JudeoChristian (?) values.
Ever heard of the concept of reaping what you sow.
So you are against the death penalty?
If somone killed your kid you would still be against the death penalty?
Not me, i'd string them up myself.
Whatever...so how does death penalty relate to your wishing that "pregnant bitches" die from their back alley abortions? Are you trying to change the subject, maybe?
But on the subject of death penalty, to answer your question, I am very consistent in my positions. I believe that the death penalty is a necessary evil in society as is abortion.
"It would also be interesting to hear why you think that abortion is "necessary"."
You proved you are not pro-life with your self serving blood thirtiness regarding capital punishment. Your alleged anti-abortion sentiment is not pro- life, it is about controling women.
"It would also be interesting to hear why you think that abortion is "necessary"."
You proved you are not pro-life with your self serving blood thirtiness regarding capital punishment. Your alleged anti-abortion sentiment is not pro- life, it is about controling women.
Pro life is a label like pro choice. They mean different things to different people. I'm anti abortion. Anti murder of innocent people. People who kill other people should be killed. After a trial of course.
If some woman wants to murder her baby and dies in the process. I have no sympathy for her.
And I will add this. Men who abandon and don't take care of their children are scum. I don't know what the solution is to dead beat dads. But something severe is in order.
Don't take this personal but I have long held the view that Christians are hypocrites when it comes to the issue of life most treat Gods word like a Chinese menu picking those passages that best fit their own agenda....if one is pro-life that means as stated in Romans 12:17 "Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengence is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord
For me that pretty much sums up what pro-life means...no gray areas there!
Don't take this personal but I have long held the view that Christians are hypocrites when it comes to the issue of life most treat Gods word like a Chinese menu picking those passages that best fit their own agenda....if one is pro-life that means as stated in Romans 12:17 "Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengence is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord
I don't take it personal. You make a good and valid point. Yes many christians are hypocrites at times. Myself included.
What you quote in Romans I believe talks about an individual.
Elsewhere in Romans it does talk about civil authority. I support the death penalty in theory. I would never want to be the one to have to carry it out, unless it involved my family. If someone killed my kid. I would want to take out vengence on that person. Would I go so far as to do it. I don't know and don't want to know. If that makes me a hypocrit so be it.
I talked about a woman getting an abortion (attempted murder) dying in the act. All I said is that I would have no sympathy for her. None at all. Not even a little. That is different then some lone nut going out and killing women who had abortions.
I understand the power of vengeance however if you ever talk to someone who has taken a life it stays with them till the day they die thats why I feel for all those grunts.. no fun living with deaths demons better to leave that to God