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Title: Russia seizes US arms cache in Georgia
Source: Press TV
URL Source: http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=66770§ionid=351020602
Published: Aug 16, 2008
Author: Press TV
Post Date: 2008-08-17 05:44:14 by bush_is_a_moonie
Keywords: None
Views: 308
Comments: 12

A Russian military spokesman says Russian forces have seized a large cache of US-made weapons in the western city of Senaki in Georgia.

"In Senaki, we seized a large arsenal of weapons including 664 US-made M-16 rifles" and a number of M-40 sniper rifles, General Anatoly Nogovitsyn told a news conference in Moscow.

"There were 1,728 weapons total," he added.

Earlier on Wednesday, US President George W. Bush sent a C-17 airlifter to deliver 'humanitarian supplies' to Georgia.

"And in the days ahead we will use US aircraft as well as naval forces to deliver humanitarian and medical supplies," Bush announced.

Shortly after the announcement, Russia expressed concern that US military cargo planes could be delivering more than just humanitarian aid to Georgia.

"Let us ask the Americans to convince us that the cargo on board these planes is indeed humanitarian aid. Why don't they lift the curtain on what is being delivered?" Deputy Head of Russia's General Staff Anatoly Nogovitsyn said.

Andrei Nesterenko, the Russian Foreign Ministry's spokesman, said that the navy was not 'the best way' to deliver humanitarian aid to Georgia.

The United States is Georgia's principal military supporter, and has provided the country with significant quantities of military aid in recent years.

As the conflict between Russia and Georgia enters its second week, Russia's president Dmitry Medvedev signed a ceasefire deal on Saturday. However, Russian forces have yet to withdraw from Georgia.

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A Russian military spokesman says Russian forces have seized a large cache of US-made weapons in the western city of Senaki in Georgia.

Playing devil's advocate here: The M-16 is second only to the AK-47 as the most popular and widespread assault rifle in the world.

I've seen pictures of Palestinians armed with M-16's and M-4's, and we all know who the US supports in that corner of the world.

Pern  posted on  2008-08-17   5:59:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

How do you explain the training exercise held in mid-July involving 1,000 American servicemen? It was in all the papers, albeit in agate type on back pages.

Georgia is a U.S./Israeli puppet state and no one even tries to disguise that. George Soros brought the current puppet into power.

U.S. troops start training exercise in Georgia

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-08-17   9:12:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If the Georgians are fighting with us in Iraq, then they're likely to be receiving arms from us, as well. Joint training/adviser support is most likely happening, as well. See the AEI panel talk that included permanent duty personnel back from Georgia.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-17   9:17:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Israel has a couple billion dollars invested in Republic of Georgia. Their plan is to usurp control of all the oil and natural gas resources there. Plus they know this will enrage the Russians which they believe will draw the U.S. into another war in the Middle East. The zionists have had their eye on all the land from the River of Egypt (Nile) to the Euphrates long before Israel was created in 1948. The pagan Jews (Ashkenazim) believe if Israel can take control of this land before Jesus returns that they have proven the New Testament to be fiction. Read what the groups like "Jews and Hasidic Gentiles" have said about this happening.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-08-17   22:10:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Israel has a couple billion dollars invested in Republic of Georgia. Their plan is to usurp control of all the oil and natural gas resources there. Plus they know this will enrage the Russians which they believe will draw the U.S. into another war in the Middle East.

August 28, 2008 -- Russia confirms WMR report that it seized US intelligence equipment http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20080828

On August 25, 2008, WMR reported, "Russians also captured another prize, five U.S. Marine Corps Humvees that were providing signals intelligence and electronic warfare assistance to Georgian forces. Along with the Humvees and their classified equipment, the Russians also obtained important and highly-classified encryption codes used by the United States and NATO to scramble their military and diplomatic communications. U.S. intelligence sources told WMR that the Russians obtained an intelligence windfall from the capture of the Humvees."

The Deputy Chief of the Russian General Staff Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn told ITAR-TASS that five Humvees captured by Russian troops at the Georgian port of Poti wold have been returned to the United States if there "had there been U.S. citizens inside at the moment of detention." The admission indicates that the United States military handed sophisticated Special Operations Forces (SOF) Intelligence Vehicles to Georgian troops, non-members of NATO, possibly compromising NATO and U.S. intelligence sources and methods to Russia.

Izvestia's Moscow edition reported on August 27 that the Russians also seized a specialized military Landrover in Poti, along with the five Humvees. As Izvestia noted, "It's hard to believe that Washington responded so quickly and brazenly to the loss of only six cars. Such vehicles burn by the dozen in Iraq - and the Americans don't complain to the resistance there. But they feel differently about the jeeps in Georgia."

However, the Russians soon realized that the six captured vehicles were not merely for transport but for intelligence gathering Nogovitsyn stated in Moscow: "Russia is very interested in this incident. We believe the Pentagon has its reasons for worrying about the Humvees. We found a great deal of interest in the internal workings of these vehicles, and we are continuing to work on that." Another translation of Nogovitsyn's remarks had him stating: "It is not accidental the Pentagon is so worried about the future of its Hummers . . . We have discovered many things of interest to us inside the vehicles."

Not only was the Pentagon concerned about the capture of the Humvees but Crawford White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe weighed in: "We'd certainly expect that the Russians would return any equipment that is U.S. equipment and return it quickly, if, in fact, they do have it."

Izvestia also reported another curious element of the Humvee story -- that some of the U.S. electronic equipment in the Humvees were manufactured under U.S. license in Odessa in Ukraine. Like Georgia, Ukraine is not a member of NATO, yet NATO-compatible sensitive military equipment is being manufactured in a non-NATO country. The Izvestia article stated: "The Georgian military not only abandoned valuable equipment, but essentially blew the lid on the U.S security system. In Gori, Russian troops seized an American intelligence center packed with cutting-edge reconnaissance equipment. All of it is in Russia now. And the six jeeps [Humvees and Landrover] are a mobile reconnaissance and patrol complex, providing troop management in the field. According to our sources, the leading car's equipment wasn't the most modern at all; and most curiously of all, it is produced under license from the USA in Odessa, Ukraine."

A Russian Defense Ministry spokesperson told Izvestia, "Another reason why the Americans are infuriated is because the Georgians have humiliated the USA in front of the whole world. The Americans trained the Georgian army for five years, arming them with the latest weapons and hardware - but the Georgians ran like rats at the first sign of action against Russian troops, abandoning all their hardware."

Jane's Defense reports that Georgia's tactical intelligence left much to be desired even with their American and Israeli support. Georgia's Israeli-supplied unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were worthless against the Russians because Russia's "rapid assertion of complete air superiority" prevented the use of manned and unmanned aerial reconnaissance flights. Georgia's military intelligence assets inside South Ossetia were confined to Georgian enclaves where they could not report on Russian military movements in the rest of the region.

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-02   22:33:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

On August 25, 2008, WMR reported, "Russians also captured another prize, five U.S. Marine Corps Humvees that were providing signals intelligence and electronic warfare assistance to Georgian forces. Along with the Humvees and their classified equipment, the Russians also obtained important and highly-classified encryption codes used by the United States and NATO to scramble their military and diplomatic communications. U.S. intelligence sources told WMR that the Russians obtained an intelligence windfall from the capture of the Humvees."

Ruskies = 1, IsraeliAmeros = 0

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-02   22:36:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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Ruskies = 1, IsraeliAmeros = 0

Jethro, here's an excellent interview of Mr. Putin about the Georgia conflict:

digg.com/world_news/PUTIN...UT_CNN_Interview_Must_SEE

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-02 22:59:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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