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Title: The United States Is Still A British Colony
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URL Source: http://www.civil-liberties.com/books/colony2.html
Published: Aug 19, 2008
Author: The Informer (?)
Post Date: 2008-08-19 13:58:20 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
Keywords: Religion
Views: 164
Comments: 9

The United States is still a British Colony

The trouble with history is, we weren't there when it took place and it can be changed to fit someones belief and/or traditions, or it can be taught in the public schools to favor a political agenda, and withhold many facts. I know you have been taught that we won the Revolutionary War and defeated the British, but I can prove to the contrary. I want you to read this paper with an open mind, and allow yourself to be instructed with the following verifiable facts. You be the judge and don't let prior conclusions on your part or incorrect teaching, keep you from the truth.

I too was always taught in school and in studying our history books that our freedom came from the Declaration of Independence and was secured by our winning the Revolutionary War. I'm going to discuss a few documents that are included at the end of this paper, in the footnotes. The first document is the first Charter of Virginia in 1606 (footnote #1). In the first paragraph, the king of England granted our fore fathers license to settle and colonize America. The definition for license is as follows.

"In Government Regulation. Authority to do some act or carry on some trade or business, in its nature lawful but prohibited by statute, except with the permission of the civil authority or which would otherwise be unlawful." Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1914.

Keep in mind those that came to America from England were British subjects. So you can better understand what I'm going to tell you, here are the definitions for subject and citizen.

"In monarchical governments, by subject is meant one who owes permanent allegiance to the monarch." Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1914.

"Constitutional Law. One that owes allegiance to a sovereign and is governed by his laws. The natives of Great Britain are subjects of the British government. Men in free governments are subjects as well as citizens; as citizens they enjoy rights and franchises; as subjects they are bound to obey the laws. The term is little used, in this sense, in countries enjoying a republican form of government." Swiss Nat. Ins. Co. v. Miller, 267 U.S. 42, 45 S. Ct. 213, 214, 69 L.Ed. 504. Blacks fifth Ed.

I chose to give the definition for subject first, so you could better understand what definition of citizen is really being used in American law. Below is the definition of citizen from Roman law.

"The term citizen was used in Rome to indicate the possession of private civil rights, including those accruing under the Roman family and inheritance law and the Roman contract and property law. All other subjects were peregrines. But in the beginning of the 3d century the distinction was abolished and all subjects were citizens; 1 sel. Essays in Anglo-Amer. L. H. 578." Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1914.

The king was making a commercial venture when he sent his subjects to America, and used his money and resources to do so. I think you would admit the king had a lawful right to receive gain and prosper from his venture. In the Virginia Charter he declares his sovereignty over the land and his subjects and in paragraph 9 he declares the amount of gold, silver and copper he is to receive if any is found by his subjects. There could have just as easily been none, or his subjects could have been killed by the Indians. This is why this was a valid right of the king (Jure Coronae, "In right of the crown," Black's forth Ed.), the king expended his resources with the risk of total loss.

If you'll notice in paragraph 9 the king declares that all his heirs and successors were to also receive the same amount of gold, silver and copper that he claimed with this Charter. The gold that remained in the colonies was also the kings. He provided the remainder as a benefit for his subjects, which amounted to further use of his capital. You will see in this paper that not only is this valid, but it is still in effect today. If you will read the rest of the Virginia Charter you will see that the king declared the right and exercised the power to regulate every aspect of commerce in his new colony. A license had to be granted for travel connected with transfer of goods (commerce) right down to the furniture they sat on. A great deal of the king's declared property was ceded to America in the Treaty of 1783. I want you to stay focused on the money and the commerce which was not ceded to America.

This brings us to the Declaration of Independence. Our freedom was declared because the king did not fulfill his end of the covenant between king and subject. The main complaint was taxation without representation, which was reaffirmed in the early 1606 Charter granted by the king. It was not a revolt over being subject to the king of England, most wanted the protection and benefits provided by the king. Because of the kings refusal to hear their demands and grant relief, separation from England became the lesser of two evils. The cry of freedom and self determination became the rallying cry for the colonist. The slogan "Don't Tread On Me" was the standard borne by the militias.

The Revolutionary War was fought and concluded when Cornwallis surrendered to Washington at Yorktown. As Americans we have been taught that we defeated the king and won our freedom. The next document I will use is the Treaty of 1783, which will totally contradict our having won the Revolutionary War. (footnote 2).

I want you to notice in the first paragraph that the king refers to himself as prince of the Holy Roman Empire and of the United States. You know from this that the United States did not negotiate this Treaty of peace in a position of strength and victory, but it is obvious that Benjamin Franklin, John Jay and John Adams negotiated a Treaty of further granted privileges from the king of England. Keep this in mind as you study these documents. You also need to understand the players of those that negotiated this Treaty. For the Americans it was Benjamin Franklin Esgr., a great patriot and standard bearer of freedom. Or was he? His title includes Esquire.

An Esquire in the above usage was a granted rank and Title of nobility by the king, which is below Knight and above a yeoman, common man. An Esquire is someone that does not do manual labor as signified by this status, see the below definitions.

"Esquires by virtue of their offices; as justices of the peace, and others who bear any office of trust under the crown....for whosever studieth the laws of the realm, who studieth in the universities, who professeth the liberal sciences, and who can live idly [ ATKHWDI Note: http://www.civil-liberties.com/books/colony3.html ], and without manual labor, and will bear the port, charge, and countenance of a gentleman, he shall be called master, and shall be taken for a gentleman." Blackstone Commentaries p. 561-562

"Esquire - In English Law. A title of dignity next above gentleman, and below knight. Also a title of office given to sheriffs, serjeants, and barristers at law, justices of the peace, and others." Blacks Law Dictionary fourth ed. p. 641

Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and John Jay as you can read in the Treaty were all Esquires and were the signers of this Treaty and the only negotiators of the Treaty. The representative of the king was David Hartley Esqr..

Benjamin Franklin was the main negotiator for the terms of the Treaty, he spent most of the War traveling between England and France. The use of Esquire declared his and the others British subjection and loyalty to the crown.

In the first article of the Treaty most of the kings claims to America are relinquished, except for his claim to continue receiving gold, silver and copper as gain for his business venture. Article 3 gives Americans the right to fish the waters around the United States and its rivers. In article 4 the United States agreed to pay all bona fide debts. If you will read my other papers on money you will understand that the financiers were working with the king. Why else would he protect their interest with this Treaty?

I wonder if you have seen the main and obvious point? This Treaty was signed in 1783, the war was over in 1781. If the United States defeated England, how is the king granting rights to America, when we were now his equal in status? We supposedly defeated him in the Revolutionary War! So why would these supposed patriot Americans sign such a Treaty, when they knew that this would void any sovereignty gained by the Declaration of Independence and the Revolutionary War? If we had won the Revolutionary War, the king granting us our land would not be necessary, it would have been ours by his loss of the Revolutionary War. To not dictate the terms of a peace treaty in a position of strength after winning a war; means the war was never won. Think of other wars we have won, such as when we defeated Japan. Did McArther allow Japan to dictate to him the terms for surrender? No way! All these men did is gain status and privilege granted by the king and insure the subjection of future unaware generations. Worst of all, they sold out those that gave their lives and property for the chance to be free.

When Cornwallis surrendered to Washington he surrendered the battle, not the war. Read the Article of Capitulation signed by Cornwallis at Yorktown (footnote 3)

Jonathan Williams recorded in his book, Legions of Satan, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington during his surrender that "a holy war will now begin on America [ATKHWDI Note: http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa002.html#2 ], and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown."...."in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire."

All the Treaty did was remove the United States as a liability and obligation of the king. He no longer had to ship material and money to support his subjects and colonies. At the same time he retained financial subjection through debt owed after the Treaty, which is still being created today; millions of dollars a day. And his heirs and successors are still reaping the benefit of the kings original venture. If you will read the following quote from Title 26, you will see just one situation where the king is still collecting a tax from those that receive a benefit from him, on property which is purchased with the money the king supplies, at almost the same percentage:

-CITE-

26 USC Sec. 1491

HEAD-

Sec. 1491. Imposition of tax

-STATUTE-

There is hereby imposed on the transfer of property by a citizen or resident of the United States, or by a domestic corporation or partnership, or by an estate or trust which is not a foreign estate or trust, to a foreign corporation as paid-in surplus or as a contribution to capital, or to a foreign estate or trust, or to a foreign partnership, an excise tax equal to 35 percent of the excess of -

(1) the fair market value of the property so transferred, over

(2) the sum of -

(A) the adjusted basis (for determining gain) of such property in the hands of the transferor, plus

(B) the amount of the gain recognized to the transferor at the time of the transfer.

-SOURCE-

(Aug. 16, 1954, ch. 736, 68A Stat. 365; Oct. 4, 1976, Pub. L. 94-455, title X, Sec. 1015(a), 90 Stat. 1617; Nov. 6, 1978, Pub. L. 95-600, title VII, Sec. 701(u)(14)(A), 92 Stat. 2919.)

-MISC1-

AMENDMENTS

1978 - Pub. L. 95-600 substituted 'estate or trust' for 'trust' wherever appearing.

1976 - Pub. L. 94-455 substituted in provisions preceding par.

(1) 'property' for 'stocks and securities' and '35 percent' for '27 1/2 percent' and in par.

(1) 'fair market value' for 'value' and 'property' for 'stocks and securities' and in par.

(2) designated existing provisions as subpar. (A) and added subpar. (B).

EFFECTIVE DATE OF 1978 AMENDMENT

Section 701(u)(14)(C) of Pub. L. 95-600 provided that: 'The amendments made by this paragraph (amending this section and section 1492 of this title) shall apply to transfers after October 2, 1975.'

EFFECTIVE DATE OF 1976 AMENDMENT

Section 1015(d) of Pub. L. 94-455 provided that: 'The amendments made by this section (enacting section 1057 of this title, amending this section and section 1492 of this title, and renumbering former section 1057 as 1058 of this title) shall apply to transfers of property after October 2, 1975.'

A new war was declared when the Treaty was signed. The king wanted his land back and he knew he would be able to regain his property for his heirs with the help of his world financiers. Here is a quote from the king speaking to Parliament after the Revolutionary War had concluded.

(Six weeks after) the capitulation of Yorktown, the king of Great Britain, in his speech to Parliament (Nov. 27, 1781), declared "That he should not answer the trust committed to the sovereign of a free people, if he consented to sacrifice either to his own desire of peace, or to their temporary ease and relief, those essential rights and permanent interests, upon the maintenance and preservation of which the future strength and security of the country must forever depend." The determined language of this speech, pointing to the continuance of the American war, was echoed back by a majority of both Lords and Commons.

In a few days after (Dec. 12), it was moved in the House of Commons that a resolution should be adopted declaring it to be their opinion "That all farther attempts to reduce the Americans to obedience by force would be ineffectual, and injurious to the true interests of Great Britain." The rest of the debate can be found in (footnote 4). What were the true interests of the king? The gold, silver and copper.

The new war was to be fought without Americans being aware that a war was even being waged, it was to be fought by subterfuge and key personnel being placed in key positions. The first two parts of "A Country Defeated In Victory," go into detail about how this was done and exposes some of the main players.

Every time you pay a tax you are transferring your labor to the king, and his heirs and successors are still receiving interest from the original American Charters.

The following is the definition of tribute (tax).

"A contribution which is raised by a prince or sovereign from his subjects to sustain the expenses of the state. A sum of money paid by an inferior sovereign or state to a superior potentate, to secure the friendship or protection of the latter." Blacks Law Dictionary forth ed. p. 1677

As further evidence, not that any is needed, a percentage of taxes that are paid are to enrich the king/queen of England. For those that study Title 26 you will recognize IMF, which means Individual Master File, all tax payers have one. To read one you have to be able to break their codes using file 6209, which is about 467 pages. On your IMF you will find a blocking series, which tells you what type of tax you are paying. You will probably find a 300-399 blocking series, which 6209 says is reserved. You then look up the BMF 300-399, which is the Business Master File in 6209. You would have seen prior to 1991, this was U.S.-U.K. Tax Claims, non-refile DLN. Meaning everyone is considered a business and involved in commerce and you are being held liable for a tax via a treaty between the U.S. and the U.K., payable to the U.K.. The form that is supposed to be used for this is form 8288, FIRPTA - Foreign Investment Real Property Tax Account, you won't find many people using this form, just the 1040 form. The 8288 form can be found in the Law Enforcement Manual of the IRS, chapter 3. If you will check the OMB's paper - Office of Management and Budget, in the Department of Treasury, List of Active Information Collections, Approved Under Paperwork Reduction Act, you will find this form under OMB number 1545-0902, which says U.S. withholding tax-return for dispositions by foreign persons of U.S. real property interests-statement of withholding on dispositions, by foreign persons, of U.S. Form #8288 #8288a. These codes have since been changed to read as follows; IMF 300-309, Barred Assement, CP 55 generated valid for MFT-30, which is the code for 1040 form. IMF 310-399 reserved, the BMF 300-309 reads the same as IMF 300-309. BMF 390-399 reads U.S./U.K. Tax Treaty Claims. The long and short of it is nothing changed, the government just made it plainer, the 1040 is the payment of a foreign tax to the king/queen of England. We have been in financial servitude since the Treaty of 1783.

Another Treaty between England and the United States was Jay's Treaty of 1794 (footnote 5). If you will remember from the Paris Treaty of 1783, John Jay Esqr. was one of the negotiators of the Treaty. In 1794 he negotiated another Treaty with Britain. There was great controversy among the American people about this Treaty.

In Article 2 you will see the king is still on land that was supposed to be ceded to the United States at the Paris Treaty. This is 13 years after America supposedly won the Revolutionary War. I guess someone forgot to tell the king of England. In Article 6, the king is still dictating terms to the United States concerning the collection of debt and damages, the British government and World Bankers claimed we owe. In Article 12 we find the king dictating terms again, this time concerning where and with who the United States could trade. In Article 18 the United States agrees to a wide variety of material that would be subject to confiscation if Britain found said material going to its enemies ports. Who won the Revolutionary War?

That's right, we were conned by some of our early fore fathers into believing that we are free and sovereign people, when in fact we had the same status as before the Revolutionary War. I say had, because our status is far worse now than then. I'll explain.

Early on in our history the king was satisfied with the interest made by the Bank of the United States. But when the Bank Charter was canceled in 1811 it was time to gain control of the government, in order to shape government policy and public policy. Have you never asked yourself why the British, after burning the White House and all our early records during the War of 1812, left and did not take over the government. The reason they did, was to remove the greatest barrier to their plans for this country. That barrier was the newly adopted 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution. The purpose for this Amendment was to stop anyone from serving in the government who was receiving a Title of nobility or honor. It was and is obvious that **** these government employees would be loyal to the granter of the Title of nobility or honor.

The War of 1812 served several purposes. It delayed the passage of the 13th Amendment [ http://www.civil-liberties.com/books/colony3.html ] by Virginia, allowed the British to destroy the evidence of the first 12 states ratification of this Amendment, and it increased the national debt, which would coerce the Congress to reestablish the Bank Charter in 1816 after the Treaty of Ghent was ratified by the Senate in 1815./

Prophecy being fulfilled:

Micah 4:1-2 http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mic/Mic004.html#1 : "....We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God, and may in time bring the Infidels and Savages, living in those parts, to human Civility, and to a settled and quiet Government: DO, by these our Letters Patents, graciously accept of, and agree to, their humble and well-intended Desires;...."

[Micah 4:11-13 http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mic/Mic004.html#13 :]

Provided always, and our Will and Pleasure is, and we do hereby declare to all Christian Kings, Princes, and States, that if any Person or Persons which shall hereafter be of any of the said several Colonies and Plantations, or any other, by his, their, or any of their Licence and Appointment, shall, at any Time or Times hereafter, rob or spoil, by Sea or Land, or do any Act of unjust and unlawful Hostility to any the Subjects of Us, our Heirs, or Successors, or any the Subjects of any King, Prince, Ruler, Governor, or State, being then in League or Amitie with Us, our Heirs, or Successors, and that upon such Injury, or upon just Complaint of such Prince, Ruler, Governor, or State, or their Subjects, We, our Heirs, or Successors, shall make open Proclamation, within any of the Ports of our Realm of England, commodious for that purpose, That the said Person or Persons, having committed any such robbery, or Spoil, shall, within the term to be limited by such Proclamations, make full Restitution or Satisfaction of all such Injuries done, so as the said Princes, or others so complaining, may hold themselves fully satisfied and contented; And, that if the said Person or Persons, having committed such Robery or Spoil, shall not make, or cause to be made Satisfaction accordingly, within such Time so to be limited, That then it shall be lawful to Us, our Heirs, and Successors, to put the said Person or Persons, having committed such Robbery or Spoil, and their Procurers, Abettors, and Comforters, out of our Allegiance and Protection; And that it shall be lawful and free, for all Princes, and others to pursue with hostility the said offenders, and every of them, and their and every of their Procurers, Aiders, abettors, and comforters, in that behalf. ....."

The First Virginia Charter: www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/states/va01.htm

Genesis 15:13-14/Galatians 3:16-29; Ezekiel 17:1-10 http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze017.html /John 15:1-2 http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn015.html#1 /Matthew 15:13 http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn015.html#13 .

Gen 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land [that is] not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

Gen 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen015.html#13

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.......

Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal003.html#16 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gal/3/29.html

Cross-reference: Declaration of Independence, 2003 freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=85514

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#1. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

Gen 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land [that is] not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

Gen 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.

Rev 12:17 — And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rev/12/17.html

"....Money Power Defined

I do not mean by the Money Power to include any persons possessed of property, who are engaged in independent business enterprise. I do not mean any American business men, or business Companies engaged in independent business enterprise, whether they be farmers, merchants, manufacturers, bankers, miners, builders, or persons engaged in any department of business enterprise.

The Imperialism of Capital to which I allude is a knot of capitalists--Jews almost to a man--who have their headquarters in the Money Quarter of London, in Threadneedle street, Lombard, and other streets in that vicinity, where bankers have their habitat. These Jew capitalists have succeeded in centralizing, in their own hands, the industry and commerce of the earth. They own almost all the debts of the world, the debts of nations, states, counties, municipalities, corporations and individuals, amounting in the aggregate, it is estimated, to seventy-five billion dollars, on which they are annually receiving about four billion dollars of interest [1889].

They own the manufactories, the shipping, and the commerce of Great Britain, and most of the manufactures, shipping and commerce of the whole world. They have attained control of the industry and trade of the whole earth; and are rapidly centralizing all business in their own hands. They hold possession of all the great lines of trade and business of all kinds, and they regulate all prices by their own arbitrary methods. These Jew Money Kings have established a Grand Imperialism of industry, commerce and wealth, which is thoroughly organized, and rules in the sphere of industry and trade with autocratic sway.

In our age, Capital is King. This Money Power of the Money Quarter of London is the only grand pre-eminent Imperialism existing on the earth. Monarchs severally rule their own dominions, and no one of them has pre-eminent power. The Imperialism of Capital, in our time, stretches the arms of its power over the whole earth: it alone sways the nations with pre-eminent rule. It buys all of the products of the earth: it fixes all prices of all commodities without regard to the law of supply and demand, by its own arbitrary will. It is Imperial over industry and trade, and none can resist it. It is rapidly progressing toward its ultimate aim, of possessing itself of all the world's wealth and all the world's property. If things remain as they are, these Jew Money Kings will, at no distant day, have achieved their aim, and will own the earth in fee simple......."

The Great Red Dragon, chapter 1

http://greatreddragon.com/chap1.htm

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze034.html#16 / www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Eze/34/16.html

Next: Redemption [?]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-19   14:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

"Esquires by virtue of their offices; as justices of the peace, and others who bear any office of trust under the crown....for whosever studieth the laws of the realm, who studieth in the universities, who professeth the liberal sciences, and who can live idly [ ATKHWDI Note: www.civil-liberties.com/books/colony3.html ], and without manual labor, and will bear the port, charge, and countenance of a gentleman, he shall be called master, and shall be taken for a gentleman." Blackstone Commentaries p. 561-562

Sorry....meant to insert a Bible verse there, instead, as this is a description of the lawyers, judges, et al, who reside in the nation-state of the City of London:

Eze 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I [am] the LORD.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze039.html#6

[Magog = the Jews. See green box www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm ]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-19   14:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

thanks for the post, i am saving it for later or to print out. i assume this is why eric whoru at wtprn always says , ''citizens' dont have any rights, free people do. and that the 13th ammendment prohibits involuntary servitude which is why no one can be a citizen at birth, because they didnt volunteer

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-08-20   11:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#3) (Edited)

At 8:56 in this vid you'll see that an ATF agent is teaching that the founding fathers were TERRORISTS" because they assinated British officials. This is proof that England still rules through this agency

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-08-20   16:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan, Itisa1mosttoolate (#3)

''citizens' dont have any rights, free people do.

Right, citizens don't have rights; they only have 'privileges' that can be given, and taken away.

the 13th ammendment prohibits involuntary servitude which is why no one can be a citizen at birth, because they didnt volunteer

Our parents volunteer us by signing the birth certificate, turning us over to the state as 'creator' and owner, via the all-caps name, a legal fiction. Hospitals act as 'ports of entry' for the Ship of State:

".... Today, almost all mothers, black or white, unknowingly inform on their own babies. Take a look at the so-called "Birth Certificate" CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH where the mother signs and you will see the title of the box stating in small print: "MOTHER OR OTHER INFORMANT".

The word "OTHER" makes the mother "an informant." By signing the "Birth Certificate" as an informer, she contracts with the government putting her child and her child's future labor as collateral for the national debt (servitude--slavery). The father or mother can rescind the contract within three business days (Truth-in-Lending).

Since the Birth Certificate neither lists the father as the husband nor lists the wife's acceptance of the father's surname as her own but has the mothers maiden name instead, the baby is considered a BASTARD. Bastards are therefore under the care and control of the Priest Rule (democracy) and can be taken from the mother at any time.

The hospitals receive a fairly large monetary benefit ($3,000, more or less, per child) from the corporate government for having Birth Certificates filled out and signed. ......"

"....People become surety for the debt by a number of different ways. One way is by a Birth Certificate when the baby's footprint is placed thereon before it touches the land. The certificate is recorded at a County Recorder, then sent to a Secretary of State which sends it to the Bureau of Census of the Commerce Department. This process converts a man's life, labor, and property to an asset of the US government when this person receives a benefit from the government such as a drivers license, food stamps, free mail delivery, etc. This person becomes a fictional persona in commerce. The Birth Certificate is an unrevealed "Trust Instrument" originally designed for the children of the newly freed black slaves after the 14th Amendment. The US has the ability to tax and regulate commerce......"

The 13th Amendment may prohibit involuntary servitude, but the 14th [all citizens born or naturalized and under the jurisdiction of the United States] cancels the 13th out:

"....Bond Servant

To cover the debt in 1933 and future debt, the corporate government determined and established the value of the future labor of each individual in its jurisdiction to be $630,000. A bond of $630,000 [ATKHWDI note: I have heard it is as high as $1 million now] is set on each Certificate of Live Birth. The certificates are bundled together into sets and then placed as securities on the open market. These certificates are then purchased by the Federal Reserve and/or foreign bankers. The purchaser is the "holder" of "Title." This process made each and every person in this jurisdiction a bond servant......" [i.e., SLAVES ON THE AUCTION BLOCK]

http://www.gemworld.com/USAVSUS.HTM [excellent site]

I had intended yesterday to continue on with this saga with the [possible] redemption side of the story, such as it is, but got sidetracked and depressed with current affairs. The articles I wanted to post are background for Itsalmosttoolate's link: real-debt-elimination

Its, do you have any personal experience with that website?

At 8:56 in this vid you'll see that an ATF agent is teaching that the founding fathers were TERRORISTS" because they assinated British officials. This is proof that England still rules through this agency

I know I sound like a broken record, but I still can't do video. Your info is interesting though, because the founding fathers were actually in cahoots with the British. [ www.sweetliberty.org/pers...e/jewishpersecution18.htm ]. However, the ATF just revealed that they are communists, because that more or less fulfills a communist goal:

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm

The alphabet soup agencies [and I would include the AFT] are all gophers for the Bank of England, according to Eustace Mullins:

www.whale.to/b/mullins3.html

British Israelism / Pilgrims' Society -

Steps Toward a British Union, A World State and International Strife Part I, Extension of Remarks of Hon. J. Thorkelson of Montana in the House of Representatives, Monday, Aug. 19th, 1940

"Mr. Speaker, in order that the American people may have a clearer understanding of those who over a period of years have been undermining this Republic in order to return it to the British Empire, I have inserted in the record a number of articles to prove this point. These articles are entitled "Steps towards British Union, A World State, and International Strife." This is part I, and in this I included a hope expressed by Mr. Andrew Carnegie, in his book entitled "Triumphant Democracy". In this he expresses himself in this manner : 'Let men say what they will. I say that as surely as the sun in the heavens once shone upon Britain and America united, so surely is it one morning to rise, to shine upon, to greet again the reunited states -- the British-America Union.'

This statement is clear, and the organizations which Mr. Carnegie endowed have spent millions in order to bring this about. This thing has been made possible by scholarships, exchange professors, subsidies of churches, subsidies of educational institutions: all of them working for the purpose of eliminating Americanism as was taught once in our schools and to gradually exchange this for an English version of our history.

These organizations were organized to bring about a British Union, a union in which the United States would again become a part of the British Empire....."

www.freedomdomain.com/Racism/british_israel_parts.html

[".... "Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown." Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry."....."]

www.sweetliberty.org/issu...ax/unionjack_epilogue.htm

Uncle Sam is Knight of the British Empire:

www.freedomdomain.com/Racism/uncle_sam.html

When Jesus said Call no man on earth your Father, He meant it. What did we call George Washington?

This was all ordained, to teach us to make God our King, and to teach us that man's law delivers us into bondage. The Jews in the City of London financed the Revolution, preaching life, liberty, brotherhood, and freedom of religion. What they proceeded to give us was death, slavery, strife and the Noahide Laws.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Sa/1Sa008.html#7

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal004.html#21

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-20   19:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

You just about covered everything. Great reply.

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-08-20   20:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

The 13th Amendment may prohibit involuntary servitude, but the 14th [all citizens born or naturalized and under the jurisdiction of the United States] cancels the 13th out:

"....Bond Servant

so you are saying it's voluntary because as a minor the parent's sign for them? what about when they become 18 and do not agree to the contract?

by the way do you ever listen to eric whoru on wtprn? he has a good show and talks about these things, interesting perspective. this is where i learned about this. the wtprn listen line on the phone is 512 485 9010. his show airs 10pm-12 pacific time m-f.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-08-20   21:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#7) (Edited)

so you are saying it's voluntary because as a minor the parent's sign for them? what about when they become 18 and do not agree to the contract?

It's not voluntary on the part of the child, and I have read that the child can choose to uncontract by requesting to rescind the social security #. I've snagged some links:

This one is from the ronpaulwarroom, which for those who can do video, looks pretty good [I haven't checked out the other links except for the 4um one....BTPHoldings is gone; Eoghan is gone; where is richard? noone222 and HOUNDDAWG are still here; perhaps they would be willing to shed more light on this...I get so confused and frustrated because I was not born in one of the 50 states....probably the one thing that makes me want to walk out in front of a moving train....until last night....totally unrelated, but in case anyone wants to post this horror story: China flays dogs alive www.worldnetdaily.com/ind...fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72879 . I contemplated beating my head into a bloody pulp against the wall last night after reading it. Sorry! Dear God, how much longer can we last?]

Quit Social Security and Rescind the Socialist Security Number
famguardian.org/TaxFreedo....17QuitSocialSecurity.htm

---------

# INSTRUCTIONS: 3.14. Change Your Filing Status to Nonresident Alien ... 3.17 Quit Social Security and Rescind the number assigned to you .... famguardian.org/Subjects/...s/TradeOrBusinessScam.htm ... famguardian.org/TaxFreedo....14ChangeFilingStatus.htm

INSTRUCTIONS 3.13 Correct government records documenting your ... Rescind your application for Social Security by sending a revised SS5 form ..... a federallyfunded benefit for which Social Security number is required as a ... www.famguardian.org/TaxFr...geUSCitizenshipStatus.htm -

YouTube - Amazonian Tribe Discovered, Will Texas CPS ... Quit Social Security and Rescind the Socialist Security Number 9 min - Rated 4.7 out of 5.0 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks0sTQu_-fI

YouTube - 1 Phone call + 1000 disrupted combined lives ... Quit Social Security and Rescind the Socialist Security Number 7 min - Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oMZuzOi-wQ

EveryZing - YouTube.com: Beatleha - This Could Be The Last Time 2 0f 2 ... Social Security and Rescind the Socialist Security Number famguardian. org/TaxFreedom/Instructions/3.17QuitSocialSecurity.htm

Drop.io strawman ... search.everyzing.com/view...lic-ep&e=19855728&il=en...

Becoming an American Sovereign or Freeman on The Land | Ron Paul ... Mar 17, 2008 ... Children International · Ron Paul War Room banners ... Quit Social Security and Rescind the Socialist Security Number
... www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=8669 [lots of videos]

Social Security Enumeration At Birth - Suijuris Forums Now, don't use that social security number. This is important, as your child will have the ... 1.5.1 Rescinding Numbers Assigned to Children At Birth: ... www.suijuris.net/forum/fa...ty-enumeration-birth.html

# [PDF] AFFIDAVIT OF CORPORATE DENIAL FORM INSTRUCTIONS File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat famguardian.org/TaxFreedo...ral/ProofOfSvcViaMail.htm ...... regarding the assignment of social security number cards to aliens.) ... sedm.org/Forms/Affidavits/AffCorpDenial.pdf

4um: Basis of income Tax If you have a social security number, you owe the income tax, ..... have all documentation Notarized-Use Return Receipt Mail) rescind their signature on any ... www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bi...cgi?ArtNum=54706&Disp=All

IMPORTANT: Claim back your Freedom, How to become a Freeman-on-the ... Jun 29, 2008 ... My reason for using it is not because I wish to participate in the Social Security system, as I don't wish to participate. ... www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=12551

I almost hate to post these; "redemption" sites seem to drop like flies:

Isa 10:24 ¶ Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa010.html#26

The articles I wanted to post have more to do with the UCC redemption, more for the history and truth behind it, because I wonder if any of this really works, EVER, not to mention, 100% of the time. I know the Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act and the other police state apparatus were put into place to prevent it. That's why I asked Itsalmosttoolate if he had any experience with his eliminatedebt link. Genesis 15:13-14/Galatians 3:16-29.

by the way do you ever listen to eric whoru on wtprn? he has a good show and talks about these things, interesting perspective. this is where i learned about this. the wtprn listen line on the phone is 512 485 9010. his show airs 10pm-12 pacific time m-f.

I didn't know about that. Thank you very much for the tip. I wish I had seen this last night. I 'hung it up' after reading about the dogs in China. Will most definitely try to check it out tonight!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-21   7:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#8)

I just noticed the following link, also at the ronpaulwarroom link:


How I Clobbered Every Bureaucratic Cash-Confiscatory Agency Known To Man Kind

By Mary Elizabeth Croft

www.freedomfiles.org/mary-book.pdf

I can't do pdf files either, but I have read this in the past. It is excellent!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-21   7:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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