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Title: Super-amazing: McCain POW Story Lifted from Solzhenitsyn
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Published: Aug 19, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-08-19 15:14:57 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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"Cross in the Dirt" story stolen from Solzhenitsyn

 
by rickrocket Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 09:32:42 AM PDT
 

I was watching the forum last night and decided that since I hadn't eaten yet, I would try to listen to John McCain speak.  I was doing OK with the "my friends" and the evil chuckle when I heard him talk about his POW story of the cross in the dirt.  That was when I couldn't take it anymore.

 

It just sounded so fake and so contrived, so I did a little research about it.  Someone on here said it sounded like a scene from Ben-Hur, so I did a google search about Ben-Hur and cross in the sand and such.  No dice.  But I searched around a little bit more and here is what I found.  A story about Alexander Solzhenitsyn from his times in the Soviet Gulags.

 

Along with other prisoners, he worked in the fields day after day, in rain and sun, during summer and winter. His life appeared to be nothing more than backbreaking labor and slow starvation. The intense suffering reduced him to a state of despair.

 

On one particular day, the hopelessness of his situation became too much for him. He saw no reason to continue his struggle, no reason to keep on living. His life made no difference in the world. So he gave up.

 

Leaving his shovel on the ground, he slowly walked to a crude bench and sat down. He knew that at any moment a guard would order him to stand up, and when he failed to respond, the guard would beat him to death, probably with his own shovel. He had seen it happen to other prisoners.

 

As he waited, head down, he felt a presence. Slowly he looked up and saw a skinny old prisoner squat down beside him. The man said nothing. Instead, he used a stick to trace in the dirt the sign of the Cross. The man then got back up and returned to his work.

 

As Solzhenitsyn stared at the Cross drawn in the dirt his entire perspective changed. He knew he was only one man against the all-powerful Soviet empire. Yet he knew there was something greater than the evil he saw in the prison camp, something greater than the Soviet Union.  He knew that hope for all people was represented by that simple Cross. Through the power of the Cross, anything was possible.

 

Solzhenitsyn slowly rose to his feet, picked up his shovel, and went back to work. Outwardly, nothing had changed. Inside, he had received hope.

 

[From Luke Veronis, "The Sign of the Cross"; Communion, issue 8, Pascha 1997.]

 

So, it is very interesting that Mr. Solzhenitsyn and Mr. McCain had the same Christian guard experience.  Maybe the Soviet guard and the Vietcong guard were trained by the same Christian/Communist person.  Or maybe it is all just a made up story.  Somehow I doubt that Alexander Solzhenitsyn heard John McCain's story and copied it.

 

UPDATE:  This story was actually excerpted from "The Gulag Archipelago" by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, which was definitely written before John McCain's books.

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McCain told the cross story last Sunday at that 'faith' forum. There were thousands weeping, young virgins fainting, stage lights exploding... And, it turns out, it was all a fake. The only way he can escape a 'fraud' charge would be for him to claim that his age causes him to often confuse reality or his own past with the stuff he reads in books.

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This is in the same class as Hillary's story about dodging bullets in Sarajevo, or Al Gore's stories about inventing the internet and cleaning up Love Canal.

The only way he can escape a 'fraud' charge would be for him to claim that his age causes him to often confuse reality or his own past with the stuff he reads in books

That means he's either a pathological liar or senile. Either way, he's unfit to be President.

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David Hackworth, a retired Army colonel with five years' distinguished service in Vietnam who is a frequent commentator on military affairs on network television, is a longtime critic of McCain. He tells Insight that McCain's actions during the Senate Select Committee hearings were a "flash point" with a lot of veterans. "McCain should turn off his handlers," says Hackworth, "because he's presenting himself in a very poor light. I have read hundreds of letters and e-mails from members of the military and there's no question that there is a keen divide when it comes to McCain. There are many who challenge his conduct when he was a POW."

In 1991, explains Hackworth, "I interviewed Col. Bui Tin in Hanoi, who was presented to me as their authority on POW/MIA issues. In the course of the interview Tin told me that during the war he was involved in the imprisonment of American POWs. When I questioned him further he said that John McCain was a `special prisoner.' Tin later told other POWs that McCain never was tortured. So when McCain embraced Tin during the hearings it seemed to some Vietnam vets to confirm the reports they had heard, and it really angered a lot of people. It was no secret that McCain had admitted to giving information to the enemy. In fact, McCain was given the Silver Star for `conspicuous gallantry' for the time period of 27 Oct. to 8 Dec. 1967 -- one day after he was shot down and admits to having given information to the enemy. McCain is a survivor, not a hero, and I don't think anyone in the history of our nation has been awarded such high military awards for dealing with the enemy."

Charles Bates, director of Veterans for Government Accountability, a government watchdog group, tells Insight that "during a three-day seminar on the Vietnam War at the Center for Vietnam War Studies at Texas Tech University, I and another POW activist, Joe Jordan, spoke to Bui Tin about McCain's treatment in Hanoi. Tin said, `No, McCain was never tortured. He was too important. We called him the prince. He received special treatment.'"

The passion is strong among these veterans, and Bates gives no quarter: "When Tin testified at the 1992 hearings," he says, "McCain ran down to the floor and threw his arms around this guy. Everyone knew that this was the guy that had reportedly tortured him. Try and imagine someone from the Bataan death march throwing his arms around his captor. You can't. So this is why there is concern among veterans that he really may have collaborated with the enemy. I And there appears to be evidence that he did, including his own admissions in the May 14, 1973, U.S. News & World Report":

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