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Title: McCain weighs a Lieberman surprise
Source: Yahoo - Politico
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080819/pl_politico/12646
Published: Aug 19, 2008
Author: Alexander Burns, Jonathan Martin, Mike A
Post Date: 2008-08-19 18:11:59 by Rotara
Keywords: None
Views: 1104
Comments: 48

2 hours, 24 minutes ago

John McCain is seriously considering choosing a pro-abortion-rights running mate despite vocal resistance from conservatives, with former Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) very much in the mix, close McCain advisers say.

Under strong consideration: former Pennsylvania Republican Gov. Tom Ridge, and Lieberman, who was Al Gore’s running mate in 2000.

Multiple GOP sources say that party officials in Washington and in the states have been contacted by the McCain campaign in the past two weeks and asked about the fallout from such a choice. One person familiar with the calls said the party was being instructed to prepare for different candidate prototypes — including one in the mold of Lieberman, who is an independent but still caucuses with the Democrats.

One obstacle for Lieberman may be legal. A GOP official said that since he is not a Republican, Lieberman may have a challenge being certified on some state ballots.

But GOP sources say McCain and his close friend Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) still haven’t given up hope on making what some believe would be a game-changing decision by tapping Lieberman.

Lieberman’s office declined to discuss the topic. “Those questions are best left to the McCain campaign at this time,” said Erika Masonhall, Lieberman’s Senate press secretary.

Ridge also appears to still be on the short list, GOP sources say. McCain likes the fact that Ridge is a Vietnam War hero with a working-class background. Ridge worked in the White House as Bush’s homeland security adviser before becoming Secretary of Homeland Security, and could help McCain with his further reform of the nation’s intelligence apparatus.

“He’s McCain’s kind of guy,” said a close friend of the candidate.

McCain, who in the past had said it would be hard to choose a supporter of abortion rights, told Steve Hayes of The Weekly Standard last week that he would not rule it out.

One source close to the campaign who is sympathetic to such a plan sketched out a scenario in which Lieberman was the choice.

“First, if your instinct is to run on experience, it doesn’t hurt to have a vice president who’s got it, too,” said this source, a conservative.

But more than that, according to this source, picking Lieberman would dramatically support McCain’s theme that he puts “country first” above all else.

“It would fit well into the narrative of his not having any politics in the White House,” said the source. “No more Dick Morris, no more Karl Rove — we’re governing here. It’s an easy, natural message for McCain and it implies a one-term pledge without actually saying it.”

As for the inevitable blowback from the right, this person acknowledged the convention would be “a messy week,” representing a “shock to the system of a pro-life party.”

But would it be worth it? “The question is: On Sept. 15 or 25, is he in better shape or not?” the source asked.

McCain allies are hopeful that the candidate’s strong statement on abortion Saturday night at Rick Warren’s California church could assuage any concerns from the right-to-life community about what a supporter of abortion rights on the ticket would mean.

“I will be a pro-life president and this presidency will have pro-life policies,” McCain said at Saddleback. “That's my commitment; that's my commitment to you.”

Others in the party — including several veterans of President Bush’s past campaigns — say such a choice would be untenable and are dreading the prospect of what Lieberman, or perhaps even Ridge,would mean to a base that is already less than enthusiastic about McCain.

“Lieberman would blow things up,” said the American Conservative Union’s David Keene. “That would be like Obama picking some right-winger that agrees with him on one thing.”

As for the convention, Keene said Lieberman’s selection would set off some sort of “protest” among the party’s rank and file. Tapping Ridge, Keene said, wouldn’t be as bad, but would still “overshadow” St. Paul.

Already, one website has begun a petition aimed at dissuading McCain from tapping a supporter of abortion rights.

“Please keep Senator McCain and his key advisers in your prayers as he nears a decision on his VP pick, and please sign the petition and pass on to like-minded pro-lifers,” Billy Valentine, a young Republican and former supporter of Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback’s presidential bid, writes above the petition on “Catholics for McCain.”

Other Republican regulars, speaking anonymously so as not to anger the party’s nominee, warn of the consequences.

Another well-placed Republican official who is in regular contact with McCain’s campaign predicted a contentious gathering in St. Paul.

“You will not have a unanimous vote at the convention, that much I can tell you,” said this source. “There will be some blowback.”

Many leading conservatives have strongly pushed back on McCain’s suggestion that he might choose a pro-choice running mate.

For the third day in a row, talk radio guru Rush Limbaugh castigated the idea Tuesday on his radio show, saying the mainstream media — “the drive-by media,” in his parlance — is enthralled by the idea.

“The drive-bys are just hoping for it, because they know the base will totally turn on McCain if this is the case,” Limbaugh said. “If he picks a pro-choice running mate, it’s not going to be pretty, and the drive-bys know it."

“The question is how to get the message to McCain," he said. "You don’t get in McCain’s face and say, ‘Don’t do it.’ That’s a dumb thing to do. [You have to say something like] ‘Sen. McCain, we know you’re smart … and we know you don’t want to lose.’”

The answer to what McCain is thinking could come soon. Republicans were told that barring a change, McCain plans to appear with his pick at an arena in Dayton, Ohio, on Aug. 29 — a week from Friday, and the day after Barack Obama accepts the Democratic nomination in a Denver stadium.

Campaign advisers said Obama’s performance is likely to be so strong they think it will “scare” Republicans, and they’re eager to change the conversation to their own No. 2 the next morning.

Obama is likely to make his pick this Friday, Saturday or Sunday, according to advisers. But they warned it could come any time.

ALSO DRIVING THE VEEP CONVERSATION:

• Tom Ridge gets hit from back home, as Diane Gramley, president of the American Family Association of Pennsylvania, says the GOP would not accept a vice president who supports abortion rights.

Gramley: “The last time I checked [there] was still…a pro-life plan in the platform, so he needs to do some research, I believe, in where his party stands on the issue of life.”

• Obama hasn’t notified his future running mate of his decision.

• The Associated Press reports Minnesota Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty is headed East this weekend on what looks like one more leg of a veep audition tour, heading to Ohio and Pennsylvania to stump for McCain.

• Obama refers to “my friend, Sen. Joe Biden,” in a passage about Georgia in his VFW convention speech.

• In Michigan, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius declares: “Women are the key to this election.”

• Pelosi fave Rep. Chet Edwards speaks up on veterans issues on behalf of the Obama campaign.

• Bobby Jindal talks up his accomplishments as governor.

• Former H-P CEO Carly Fiorina keeps campaigning on economics in Pennsylvania.

• AP has a problem with Joe Lieberman.

• Lynn Sweet reports that the Obama team has reserved the Springfield, Ill., Old State Capitol for an event with the running mate-to-be this Saturday.


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#24. To: Rotara (#0)

Ridge also appears to still be on the short list, GOP sources say. McCain likes the fact that Ridge is a Vietnam War hero with a working-class background. Ridge worked in the White House as Bush’s homeland security adviser before becoming Secretary of Homeland Security, and could help McCain with his further reform of the nation’s intelligence apparatus.

Ugh!!!

Ridge is no war hero. He like mclame,dumbass w, and many more self proclaimed heroes are what the pubbie party is all about. Next thing you know the dick cheney, 5 times deffered 2 C will claim he is a former war hero.

One thing for sure and you can count on it. tommy ridge can help mclame to further reform the nations intelligence apparatus since ridggieboy was on board and knew all about georgie trotsky bush's illegal electronic survelliance.

Funny how the more things change the more they stay the same. Pennsylvania was lucky to get rid of ridggieboy when he resigned as guvner and the third congressional district in pennsylvania was lucky when he left congress. But we still have a first class asshole holding down the third congressional district seat. It is none other than Pedophil English the most disgusting fat slob in the us house.

Just wanted to warn you voters about tommie ridggieboy and what to expect should he join mcinsane. ridggieboy does have experience in those 'color coded terrist' cards as the first asshole to head up homeland security. That should make mcinsane feel secure and proud.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-08-19   19:49:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: LACUMO (#24)

Ridge is no war hero.

ridggieboy does have experience in those 'color coded terrist' cards as the first asshole to head up homeland security.

Do you have his military record on hand for us to read?

And of course you know why he abruptly QUIT DHS and dropped out, dont you????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-19   19:53:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#26)

Do you have his military record on hand for us to read?

No. You can look it up for yourself.

He served somewhat like algore, got hearing damage and walla, he is a self proclaimed war hero.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-08-19   20:04:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: LACUMO, wudidiz, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Jethro Tull (#29)

He served somewhat like algore, got hearing damage and walla, he is a self proclaimed war hero.

Oh now it comes all back to me. I distinctly remember seeing a photo of Al Gork with a military vest on and with a camera hung around his neck with a Vietnam War backdrop, looking very Al Gork dorky.

Man oh man, I would love to see that Al Gork as Vietnam War vet photo again.

Does anyone remember it? It was circulating around the time of the 2000 election. Maybe it originated from a political clip art site.

It was sooooooooo funny.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-19   20:14:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: scrapper2, LACUMO, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Jethro Tull (#34)

This one?

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#45. To: wudidiz (#37)

I liked that OG 107 uniform with the slanted pockets. It was designed by a Special Forces officer, and was much more durible and servicable then the BDUs ever remotely were.

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