4um: Bye Bye Barry

Title: Bye Bye Barry
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Published: Aug 20, 2008
Author: Joel S. Hirschhorn
Post Date: 2008-08-20 15:55:42 by statusquobuster
Keywords: Barack Obama, John McCain, plutocracy
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Comments: 108

The final results are in on this historic November day. Despite the hundreds of millions of dollars he raised, Barack Obama has lost the 2008 presidential election. American voters have boldly spoken truth to arrogance. Turned out that all those pre-election opinion polls that showed Obama’s inability to get over 50 percent support were prescient. Much of the public was never comfortable with Obama, though he clearly was so comfortable acting like he already was president.

Hillary and Bill Clinton are probably drinking champagne and having the sweetest time since Bill won his first presidential election. Hillary must now bite her lip repeatedly and resist saying publicly that “I told you so!” Hillary in 2012 will reveal that she learned her lessons well.

All that Obama audacity of arrogance from the smiling, glib politician finally died the death it so richly deserved. Too many pundits will blame his loss on his blackness and racist voters. But the larger truth is that sufficient voters saw through the many lies and deceptions. Obama always had a hard time giving a simple, short straight answer to tough questions. He was always mentally calculating exactly how to game his answers so that he would achieve all the benefits he had his eyes on. He was simply too damn presumptuous and too smart for his own good. In the end, Americans do not want the smartest person in the presidency or endless nuancing. They want someone they can easily understand and trust, despite their skepticism. There were many reasons not to trust the calculating Obama to do anything he promised to do or, for some people, to fear he might.

And now the bloviating pundits will also blame third party presidential candidates for siphoning votes from Obama, as if Americans have no right to exercise their political freedom and vote for someone they honestly think has the best policy positions and would most help restore American democracy.

Jon Stewart and other late-night comics will feast on these election results, as they should. I can’t wait to hear jokes about Obama’s wife becoming a more vocal and militant critic of the good old USA, now that she has proof positive that so many Americans are stupid white racists.

Of course, now the nation must suffer through the ineptness, confusion and dementia-like dullness of the living-in-the-past John McCain, tough-talking but brain dead. Will the McCain presidency look like an extension of the incredible terrible George W. Bush White House? Of course.

Still living off a once-true characterization as a maverick, McCain must now surround himself with people who actually are smart and knowledgeable about myriad issues. Should be no problem finding enough lobbyists. Pundits will start speculating that McCain will be lucky just to stay alive for four years, but thankfully his vice-president seems more capable. One thing for sure: the power plutocracy that really runs the country will have little trouble pulling the strings behind the scenes and keep the puppet McCain dancing to tunes written by corporate interests.

Ralph Nader summed up this way: “A large fraction of Americans know that we need a Jeffersonian political revolution to fix our corrupt system. They were not fooled by the Obama rhetoric about change, not from someone that has been a product of and servant for the two-party plutocracy. Yes, all the votes for me and the other third-party presidential candidates spelled the difference between Obama winning and losing. Our voters correctly protested against the corrupt two-party system. They did not elect McCain. Only those who voted for McCain elected him, and that is something they must live with as they watch a McCain administration continue dismantling American democracy and budget-busting global warmongering.”

Cynthia McKinney wisely noted that “It is time to stop saying God bless America, and begin repeating God save America. The good news is that we will build even greater public support for a true political revolution during the McCain presidency. All too often things must get much worse before they can get better. They will get worse.”

As to Obama, half-jokingly he said: “I may come back as a third-party candidate.” Or did that reflect a calculation that Democrats had learned their lesson? As to all the screaming from the left that the Republicans stole this election also, Obama immediately said “John won it fair and square.” Thanks Barry, exactly what I expected from a phony change agent.

I think Cindy is pretty secure with her Mcnutty hubbie - Cindy is beer dynasty heiress and she bank rolls John John every time he wants to run for President - he'd be nowhere without Cindy's check book and he knows it.

I think Palin as vp would attract much media attention, as well as a lot of interest with the Downes Syndrome child. Attention that wouldn't be focused on the first family.

South Africa's Joe Slovo dies; ANC leader had `warm jewish heart'

Jewish Telegraphic Agency

01-09-1995

South Africa's Joe Slovo dies; ANC leader had `warm Jewish heart'.

South African President Nelson Mandela declared next Sunday a day of national mourning for Housing Minister Joe Slovo, who died Jan. 5 at the age of 68.

He had been suffering from bone marrow cancer for some time.

Born Yossel Mashal Slovo in Obelei, Lithuania, he was a longtime Communist who devoted his life to the fight for full racial equality in South Africa.

He was the first white to be elected to the executive of the African National Congress and was one of two Jews to become part of the Cabinet after Mandela won the country's first all-race elections last April.

"His death is a tremendous loss to our whole country. He was a man who, until recently, was vilified by a section of the people who saw him virtually as the devil incarnate," said Ronnie Kasrils, deputy minister of defense and now the only remaining Jew in the South African Cabinet.

"Now he has emerged as virtually as hero for all in his record and contribution in transforming our country. This is what Slovo was about.

"His struggle was to overthrow racism in this country and to create a truly democratic society. The transformation that has occurred in South Africa has won the support of overwhelming numbers of our people - whites as well as blacks. Slovo was one of the chief architects of that change," said Kasrils.

ANC Secretary-General Cyril Ramaphosa announced that a state funeral for Slovo would be held Jan. 15 at the Avalon Cemetery in the black township of Soweto.

Although Slovo was a proclaimed atheist and Communist, he never denied his Judaism.

In an interview about a year ago in the South African cultural journal Jewish Affairs, Slovo said, "I'm not defensive at all about being a Jew. I'm quite proud of it. And I regard anti-Semitism and anti-Jewish cultural activities on the same basis as racism in this country.

"I regard myself as from Jewish extraction and coming from a group with a very rich history and culture. And part of that history and culture has impacted on my own choice of a way of life," he said.

South African Chief Rabbi Cyril Harris, who has been invited to participate at a multifaith memorial meeting for Slovo at the Orlando Stadium in Soweto, said the late civil rights leader had a "very warm Jewish heart."

While Slovo had no connection with the official Jewish community, Harris said, he had close Jewish ties and used to read the poet Shalom Aleichem in the original Yiddish.

"Joe Slovo was a contradiction - a Marxist-Leninist-Communist who nevertheless always put the well-being of the people first. He was therefore able, on the demise of Communism in Eastern Europe, to foster what he called democratic socialism," said Harris.

"Although in the formal sense Joe Slovo was not a good Jew, he will go down in history as a great human being."

Slovo emigrated form Lithuania to South Africa with his family when he was 8 years old.

Attracted to the credo of universal human equality, he joined the communist Party of South Africa at the age of 16.

The Communists were the first official party in South Africa to welcome black members. Slovo was chairman of the party at the time of his death.

During World War II, he served as a radio operator in Egypt and Italy. After the war, he studied for a degree in law at the University of the Witwatersrand, where he met fellow law student Nelson Mandela.

He graduated with distinction and went into practice in Johannesburg.

In 1949 he married Ruth First, daughter of Julius First, a founding member of the Communist Party. Because of their political beliefs, they were later banned by the government from attending meetings or having their statements quoted in the press.

In 1950, after the government passed the Suppression of Communism Act, the party dissolved, but went underground in 1953 as the South Africa Communist Party.

In 1961, Slovo took part in the formation of Umkhonto we Sisze, the armed wing of the African National Congress. He was a member of its national high command.

Slovo, Mandela and more than 150 others were charged with treason in December 1956 for supporting the Freedom Charter, which called for full democracy in the country, regardless of race.

Slovo was both a defendant and a member of the defense team during the trial, which ended with the acquittal of all the defendants.

After the apartheid government banned the ANC in 1960, Slovo, along with Mandela and others, launched a campaign of sabotage against strategic government installations.

After Mandela was arrested in 1963, Slovo fled into exile and served as chief of staff of the ANC's armed wing.

During the next 14 years, he lived in Tanzania, Angola, Zambia and England.

His first wife, Ruth, was killed by a letter bomb in 1982 in Maputo, Mozambique. He later remarried.

There years later, Slovo became the first white elected to the national executive of the ANC.

Under an amnesty for political exiles in 1990, Slovo returned to South Africa. That same year, Mandela was released from prison, and he and Slovo became involved in negotiations end apartheid.

After the ANC made the pledge to hold peaceful negotiations with the ruling National Party, Slovo proposed a crucial plan - know as the "Sunset Clause" - allowing for power-sharing in South Africa.

The agreement broke a deadlock in the negotiations with the government and led to the country's first all-race elections in April 1994. Mandela's victory in that election officially ended apartheid and brought the ANC to power.

Slovo was fourth on the ANC's list of parliamentary candidates in the elections. As minister of housing, he pursued the goal of providing affordable housing for everyone.

His last public appearance was at the ANC's national conference in December 1994, where he received from Mandela his party's highest honor, the Isithwalandwe/Seaparankoe ("He Who Wears the Leopard's Skin") award.

"What I did, I did without any regrets," he said upon receiving the award. "I decided long ago that there is only one target, and that target is to remove the racist regime and obtain power for the people."

Wow. Surprising to read your mindset on BO. Good luck with it. I decline to participate in the sham, but may your hope pan out.

There aren't very many of those. Votes for the Libertarian or Constitution Party don't amount to 1%. Why? Because a lot of conservatives who complain to no end about having lousy candidates like Bush and McCain don't ever want to do anything about it. In November, they convince themselves that it's their duty to vote for "the lesser evil" to "stop the liberal Democrats" (even though Bush and McCain are as bad or even worse than many Democrats). So the status quo goes marching on.

The Nationalist WHITE South African Government was a strong frind of Israel and engaged in arms trade where because Israel helped South Africa get around the arms embargo, they let Israel test it's nuclear weapons there.

An American spy satellite the Israelis had mistakenly thought was out of range caught the flash of one such test in the late seventies.

The truth is, Israel and South Africa both felt besieged by the presence of populations hostile to the government and had an unusually strong bond between them develop.

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

You just show your ignorant of the struggle to end the evil that was Apartheid. The communists took part in the struggle and chose the right side, and deserve and earned their influence.

And this is even if I like them, and I don't particularly. But I am definitely more tolerant of them then you are, because I acknowledge their right to exercise their political efficacy.

Nice hyperbole. No Cyni, to me dealing respectfully with others of different philosophies and ideology is something I do all the time.

Our home grown neocon fascists and South African Communist ANC members are to be watched, and their operational B.S. countered and not tolerated, but both have the right to believe what they want to believe.

As I see if, if I don't tolerate their efficacy and right to exist, I ultimately would be a blood thirty and pro-actively violent person as they oft times are accused of being.

You yourself blasted me on my Free Republic Opus thread when I got tired of being BicycleThug over there. ;-)

Communists deserve the graveyard of history, and would be there save for political morons who pimp their 'achievements.'

You can kill people, but it is a fool's errand to think you can kill political ideas.

I don't even like the capital punishment, never mind being so blood thirsty about someone's well intentioned political beliefs and efficacy I want them dead.

Let all currency of political ideas be respected, and may communism and socialism be as kept in check as much as fascism needs to become.

Face it, I only posted on FR. I was never a FReeper, or adopted their trademark shallow and ignorant meanness. I will never go there.

And the French underground has communists and capitalists fighting the Nazis side by side, and the German and Italian Nazis considered all insurgents a pain that should die or be jailed. In other words, you are correct, but really, when you get down to it, so what?

Where are the French today? Did you see the news last New Years? And the one before?

I often wonder why the Eastern European countries were only too eager to throw off the shackles of communism? I dont recall any of them deciding to retain that form of government. Also I cannot think of any communist government past or present that their brand of socialism was not forced upon them by force.

You are not listening. That is not my argument. I am saying that if you suppress, imprison or kill people for their beliefs, you do too stupid things, you make martyrs and give away glory you don't want someone to have, and you just play whack a mole with ideas and beliefs that are far more immortal then those you harm.

Opposition in the marketplace of political ideas I support, being as bad as blood thirty ChiComs or our homegrown NeoCons doesn't do anything but taint your cause and in ways make you as bad as they can be at their worst.

I don't recall they had to go out and kill anyone to win a change of government either. Are you disappointed heads were not on a pike in the aftermath with the rivers running red with communist blood?

Force used with the excuse it is done otherwise force will be used on them is an argument that is quite insane. Thanks, but no thanks.

The only difference between American Communism and Russian Communism?...American Communism you get more free stuff

Sure haven't. You bet your Alexander Dub ek I haven't. But Russian Empire and territorial hegemony lost out, just as this lame resurgence of the same nonsense will.

To understand those invasions, one should pay more attention to the cultural and social make-up of Russians, and understand their history and how it influences what they have done to countries like Czechoslovakia for daring their Prague Spring in 1968.

Heh, they may give out the Revolutionary Worker newspapers when you run into a member of the Mao oriented Revolutionary Communist Party, but they will always always always whine for a contribution from you and want to go to their meetings and take part in their actions.

Nothing to be sorry about. It just happens that the Communist brand of socialism is the most evil element present. Actually communism has never been "socialist" they just parade under that banner.

Cult is in the eye of the beholder Amway salespeople are a cult no different to Republicans and Democrats what we will see over the next few weeks is nothing more than a giant Amway convention ...for all his faults at least Lyndon LaRouchie knows who Americas enemies are...Zionists both Christian and Jewish

Robby, brevity is my nature. The only good red is a dead red, and pray to god I get the opportunity to put a few out of their misery.

Jethro although I know where you are coming from ..taking of a life no matter who...is a life sentence ....call me crazy but if one claims to be pro-life unlike McCain it means that it is up to God to decided without getting to deep I don't understand what so called Christians don't get when it comes to the meaning of life...

Romans 12:1 Do not take revenge, dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath. For it is written, "Vengeance belongs to me. I will pay them back, declares the Lord."

I beg to differ. The LaRouchies are a classic cult, and everyone but Lyndon and them are the enemies.

Go to the database on them at RickRoss.com, that is a good place to start, they are indeed a cult. And I have had to deal with those idiots in Portland, Oregon and am up to speed on what they think and why.

It's a good call, FM, but it's incomplete. LaRouche doesn't oppose the Federal Reserve. He pressed for Hillary's support among his followers. He advocates a kind of global technocracy. And he advocates wealth transfer to the third world.

You do not understand Zionism and it's effects...would I support him?...no ...however on Zionism he is correct...even a blind dog can find a bone

Freeper: I read, but do not understand, write, but make no sense, think, but nothing happens.