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Title: BIDEN IS DEMOCRATIC FAVORITE FOR OBAMA'S NO. 2
Source: MY WAY NEWS.COM
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 20, 2008
Author: NEDRA PICKLER
Post Date: 2008-08-20 22:25:49 by rowdee
Keywords: BIDEN, YAKETY YAK, B-O-R-I-N-G
Views: 649
Comments: 47

CHICAGO (AP) - Sen. Joe Biden has emerged as the favorite among Democrats to be Barack Obama's running mate for his understanding of foreign policy in grave global times and his fighting spirit against the rival Republican ticket.

Obama is keeping his decision quiet, but his staff in Chicago and party activists who await a decision are buzzing about Biden in large part because he can address two of Obama's biggest weaknesses - his lack of experience, especially on world affairs, and his reluctance to go on the attack. The speculation is less of an indicator of whether Biden will ultimately be Obama's pick, and more of a recognition of the challenges their candidate faces at this pivotal moment in the race.

Obama plans to appear with his newly selected running mate Saturday, with the pick announced via text message to supporters. Obama also is widely thought to be considering Govs. Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas and Tim Kaine of Virginia, and Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana.

Biden, 65, was first elected to represent Delaware in 1972. Obama was 11 at the time; half the people living in the U.S. were not born when Biden arrived on Capitol Hill. He is a curious front-runner to join a ticket headed by Obama, who prevailed during the primaries by making the case that he is an outsider who can bring change to Washington.

Biden is a charismatic and hard-charging campaigner with a compelling personal story - his wife and daughter were killed in a car accident a few weeks after he was first elected, but two sons survived serious injuries in the crash. Biden commuted home to Wilmington daily to care for them, a practice he continues to this day. The oldest son, Beau, is now Delaware's attorney general and a National Guard member whose unit is being deployed to Iraq in October.

Biden got another scare 10 years ago, when two brain aneurysms kept him out of the Senate for several months.

Biden returned Monday from a trip to Georgia at the invitation of the embattled country's president, a well-timed reminder of the value he could bring to Obama's ticket.

Fighting between Georgia and Russia has only increased the sense that Americans will turn to the candidate they believe will be a strong international leader. McCain brings a military background and leadership on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Obama only has served three years in Washington, but Biden is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where he has served for 33 years.

Polls also show the race between Obama and GOP rival John McCain tightening, and Obama is responding by stepping up his attacks in speeches and commercials targeted to key states. Obama has never been entirely comfortable going negative, a move that threatens his call for civility in politics, but Biden has never shied from a fight.

"He's passionate, he's articulate and he's persuasive," said Democratic consultant Steve McMahon, among those who consider Biden Obama's smartest pick. "I think he would do for Senator Obama what Lyndon Johnson did for John Kennedy. He's got serious foreign policy experience, a long and distinguished Senate resume and he is one of the most effective surrogates that Senator Obama has right now who can go toe-to-toe with any Republican on any issue at any time."

Obama could have been describing Biden when he said in a speech Tuesday that he wants his running mate to be "somebody who is mad right now" about the state of the economy, an independent who will speak out when he's wrong and help him through major issues.

During the Democratic primary when he also sought the presidential nomination, Biden often made the most memorable impression in debates even though he was barely registering in the polls. He got big laughs for accusing Republican candidate Rudy Giuliani of mentioning three things in every sentence - "a noun, a verb, and 9/11" - and also leveled barbs at Obama.

He said he didn't think Obama was ready to be president yet, saying it's "not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." He offended some blacks when on the first day as an official presidential candidate he tried to compliment Obama as "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean." He dropped out of the race after a poor showing in Iowa.

Republicans would be sure to revive Biden's criticisms of Obama and already envision a line of attack that says Obama is so inexperienced he needs a running mate who has been in Washington longer than McCain, who was elected to Congress in 1982, a decade after Biden.

Biden is famous for being able to talk at length - sometimes at mind-numbing length - on any topic, but he has enhanced his standing in the vice presidential race by avoiding discussion of it.

Obama's running mate contenders have been instructed to be mum - a trait not considered Biden's strong suit. But he has played by Obama's rules, denying he was being vetted when he most likely was. He bluntly acknowledged he'd take the job if asked, while jokingly warning that Obama might not want him.

"I made it clear to him and everybody else, I never worked for anybody in my life," he told reporters last month. "I got here when I was 29. I never had a boss. I don't know how I'd handle it."

He gave nothing away Wednesday, as reporters staked out his home in anticipation of the pick. The senator took a load of brush in the bed of a white Ford pickup truck to the dump. He returned about 2 1/2 hours later, saying he would be working on his property throughout the day and would have no further comment.

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Biden would seem to be a natural choice considering Barry has only 3 years as a senator, -0- experience in foreign policy, -0- experience in military stuff.

OTOH, Biden? C'mon, gimme a break! This guy would talk your arm off and say absolutely nothing! Oh, wait....maybe they do fit like a glove and a hand. Hmmmmm.

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#1. To: rowdee (#0)

The senator took a load of brush in the bed of a white Ford pickup truck to the dump.

Brush? What US Senator drives to the dump themselves to dump brush? Obviously this was a planned photo op.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-08-20   22:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rowdee (#0)

He is a curious front-runner

Not really.

His ancestors were Iraqi Jews.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-20   22:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom, rowdee (#2)

His ancestors were Iraqi Jews.

Very doubtful. Biden is an Irish surname. His mother's maiden name was Flannigan, which is also Irish. He's Roman Catholic. Chances are highly likely that his family have been Irish Catholics for generations.

Having said that, he is also a scum-sucking zionist, which is surprising since Catholics are normally anti-zionist or at least apathetic to the whole zionist issue. My guess is that Israel is paying him BIG bucks in some way, shape or form. Biden is one of the most corrupt Senators in the US Senate. He's the best Senator anyone's money could buy.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-08-20   23:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Hayek Fan, Rupert_Pupkin, Esso, Jethro Tull (#3)

Having said that, he is also a scum-sucking zionist, which is surprising since Catholics are normally anti-zionist or at least apathetic to the whole zionist issue. My guess is that Israel is paying him BIG bucks in some way, shape or form. Biden is one of the most corrupt Senators in the US Senate. He's the best Senator anyone's money could buy.

biden. change? i will be laughing my derriere off at the o'worshippers if he's the selection.

Rup, we may not have to wait too much longer for the admissions that they been had.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-20   23:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Hayek Fan (#3) (Edited)

My guess is that Israel is paying him BIG bucks in some way, shape or form. Biden is one of the most corrupt Senators in the US Senate. He's the best Senator anyone's money could buy.

You forgot to mention that Biden is the worst plagiarist because he was stupid enough to get caught.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-20   23:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#4)

biden. change? i will be laughing my derriere off at the o'worshippers if he's the selection.

Rup, we may not have to wait too much longer for the admissions that they been had.

It will be very interesting to see how they continue to justify their support if Biden is indeed the VP selection. It would be hard to find a more zionist pro-war, status quo establishment shill than Biden.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-08-20   23:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: scrapper2 (#5)

You forget to mention that Biden is the worst plagiarist because he was stupid enough to get caught.

Yes, there is also that.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-08-20   23:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rowdee (#0)

A white plagiarist will bring balance to the ticket.

Howard Dean said “If you look at folks of color, even women, they’re more successful in the Democratic party than they are in the white, uh, excuse me, in, uh, Republican party.”

All-in-all, wasn't the McCain campaign right to pounce on that?

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-21   0:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#2)

His ancestors were Iraqi Jews.

Biden? Really? (Robert Battle report on Biden's ancestry.)

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-21   7:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: RickyJ (#1)

Brush? What US Senator drives to the dump themselves to dump brush? Obviously this was a planned photo op.

It's just his version of Dumbya's photo-ops clearing brush at his ranch. What they don't show are the Mexican illegals who do the job when the cameras aren't rolling.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-21   11:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rowdee (#0)

I think he would do for Senator Obama what Lyndon Johnson did for John Kennedy.

Deliver Texas?

Seriously, Biden, they are scraping the barrel's bottom.

The real strong candidate, James Webb, took himself out of the running, saw the writing on the wall perhaps?

Biden, Biden, we're gonna have so much eloquence and articulation, it's gonna be like hanging out with motormouth contortionists on acid.

Yes, please, let it be Biden.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-08-21   15:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: all, Obama is clean! (#0)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-21   15:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tauzero, All (#8) (Edited)

A white plagiarist will bring balance to the ticket.

laughing..

wth? i just posted an article this morning that it was bayh! biden, bayh. both pitiful choices.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-21   15:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: RickyJ (#1)

"What US Senator drives to the dump themselves to dump brush? Obviously this was a planned photo op."

Wayne Morse did hard physical labor when he was home running his ranch up on area that once was outside of the City of Eugene.

He was a skilled horseman and good with cattle, as was William O. Douglas, the deceased associate justice of the Supreme Court.

Also as a student in the Single Radio Operator School at Ft. Gordon, GA getting a primary communications MOS prerequisite to take the 18E Special Operations Communication Sergeant Course at Bragg I flew home for Christmas when the school is shut down and had my congressman, Peter Defazio, my congressman flying tourist on the same flight leaving from Atlanta, GA.

Pete refuses all pay raises and always flies tourist or economy class to save the taxpayer money.

I of course swapped seat with someone and bent his ear the whole flight, the political animal I am. And he didn't pander to me either calling bullshit on some of my view, which increased my respect for him. I hate people who agree with everything I say.

You should not assume all such things are done to pander. I would say he might grow to pander as Vice President if he becomes one, but that is unlikely to be what he is doing now.

Right now, in all honesty, I can't see that this guy's doing anything else but living his life as he always lives it at this point in time.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-21   16:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

--

Introducing The Republicrats


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-21   16:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: rowdee (#0)

A mulatto and a guy with a bad hair transplant. I'm chortling.

Freeper: I read, but do not understand, write, but make no sense, think, but nothing happens.

Turtle  posted on  2008-08-21   16:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

I hate people who agree with everything I say.

You must love it here.

angle  posted on  2008-08-21   16:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: angle (#17)

"You must love it here."

It is endemic to my nature, I like forums with people with whom I disagree with on many things. This is so, I like it here; I see many of you need allot of help seeing things as they really are.

And I am always glad to help. And believe me, I could not do it as well as I do if I were not as modest as I am. ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-21   17:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

I see many of you need allot of help seeing things as they really are.

And I am always glad to help. And believe me, I could not do it as well as I do if I were not as modest as I am.

Thank God for that.

angle  posted on  2008-08-21   19:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

And he didn't pander to me either calling bullshit on some almost all of my view(s),

Mike

mind if I edit your post? thanks in advance.

Flintlock  posted on  2008-08-21   21:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Flintlock (#20)

Henry Rollins Letter to David Beckham

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   21:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Dakmar (#21)

Soccer ..... Gay!

Scientology ...... Gay!

Rollins .........GAY!

Flintlock  posted on  2008-08-21   21:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Flintlock (#22) (Edited)

Just like Jonnhy Cash, I told them all to kiss my ass!

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   21:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Dakmar (#23) (Edited)

There's Still One Outlaw Left

www.youtube.com/watch?v=coij9lsSJUM

Flintlock  posted on  2008-08-21   21:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Flintlock (#24)

GG Allin Dead Flowers

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   21:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Dakmar (#25)

The natives are restless

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgCvwwSeQR4&feature=related

Flintlock  posted on  2008-08-21   21:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Flintlock (#26)

Spike Milligan - Idiot Scouts

Wah Wah, flower power sucks!

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   22:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Flintlock (#26)

wheeee!

Spike Milligan - The Tribal High (The Cock A Knees)

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   22:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Flintlock, Neil McIver, Bucky (#28)

decoration day

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   22:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

sunbeams, fresh bread, snap-to!

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   22:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike, bush_is_a_moonie (#18)

And I am always glad to help.

Since I think we got into this situation in part by sticking to partisan lines that were blurred into irrelevance by materialism, I often find your posts and media interesting and provocative, FM. You have a way of crossing over preconceived boundaries. I'm still laughing about the video you posted featuring a protest in which a young man yelled, "You're under arrest!" to a riot cop (for excessive force and "chemical weapons") up at a naval installation in Washington state.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-21   22:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike (#31)

I still think it would be hilarious to have Mikey beat me senseless for no apparent reason.

Let me start:

Boondigger!

That make anyone angry? Go!

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   22:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Mudboy slam (#32)

1-2-3 slam!

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   22:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Dakmar (#32)

Flintlock  posted on  2008-08-21   22:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Dakmar (#32)


Matrix Reloaded
by EvilViktor

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-21   22:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Flintlock (#34)

One slide show

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   22:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeye (#35)

That hurt my ears. Why would I follow that?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   22:57:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeye (#31)

The Shrub, from CO2, to see you later [Ferret Mike] - 11:13pm Mar 20, 2001 EST (#59 of 258)

Kirk - I can't buy your ad hoc thumbnail scetch opinion "nastiness" scares good people away.

I have been a political animal all my life and the sounds of screams and the ripping of clothing and hair around people with a high political efficacy and who are competative as hell is normal human behavior.

This opinion is not subject to any change in any immediate time frame amd in my humble opinion you are in no way convincing when you argue to try to.

Don't get me wrong, you are a nice guy, but you are wrong. And with all; due respect you can be insufferably snotty and arrogant.

I also failed to see what the blue blazes your "pronouncement" to me at an earier date "I am not the guy you thought I was."

I am me. I am not ever changing because of that variety of peer pressure. I have always been a take me or leave me type of guy. And I would not ever want it any other way.

http://www.duhspot.net/politics/lastaskdave.html

Heh, here is an ancient post by me from a forum now long dead. (some of it is archived, obviously.)


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-21   23:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#38)

Biden 2005.

"BIDEN: But the bottom line is we're going to have a significant draw down of American troops in '06 no matter what happens. We're either going to be leaving here with Iraq having traded a dictator for chaos, or leaving here having traded a dictator for some stability. And that will be done in the next six months."

Yeah, right Joe. Yada yada yada...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-21   23:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Dakmar (#32) (Edited)

"I still think it would be hilarious to have Mikey beat me senseless for no apparent reason."

Sorry Dakmar, I only do tht to cute adult girls who dress in girl scout uniforms who let me tie them to the bed before I work them over with a cat o nine tails and call me daddy as they cry for mercy.

That is something I reserve for non judgemental call girls. It just would not be the same doing that to you, no offense now.

(Gad, sometime I almost miss having Coral Snake around to not realize I am teasing as he castigates me for my wicked ways when posting like this.) ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-21   23:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#40)

feed your head

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-08-21   23:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#39)

Careful Cyni, Delaware is a huge state with a formitable military organization. You don't even want their National Guard to be invading Pennsylvania to track you down like a dog for insulting Senator Biden now.

Remember what you are dealing with when you insult Delaware. ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-21   23:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dakmar (#41)

--

McCain 2000 Attack Ad Compared Bush To Clinton


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-21   23:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Dakmar (#41)

--

DEBATE: RON PAUL AND JOHN McCAIN GET INTO IT ON THE WAR


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-22   0:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: rowdee (#0)

Biden? The flake - no thanks.

Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is Obama thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein: “He’s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security… “We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2002: “Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2007, on Hussein’s WMDs: “Well, the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued — they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued.”

Biden on Meet the Press, April 29, 2007: “The threat [Saddam Hussein] presented was that, if Saddam was left unfettered, which I said during that period, for the next five years with sanctions lifted and billions of dollars into his coffers, then I believed he had the ability to acquire a tactical nuclear weapon — not by building it, by purchasing it. I also believed he was a threat in that he was — every single solitary U.N. resolution which he agreed to abide by, which was the equivalent of a peace agreement at the United Nations, after he got out of — after we kicked him out of Kuwait, he was violating. Now, the rules of the road either mean something or they don’t. The international community says “We’re going to enforce the sanctions we placed” or not. And what was the international community doing? The international community was weakening. They were pulling away.”

Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005: “We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out — equally a mistake.”

Biden in October of 2002: “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.”

Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping.

Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation.

Voted NO on mandatory prison terms for crimes involving firearms.

Voted for "no child left behind" - what a fiasco that has been

Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy.

Biggest threat to US is from North Korea, Iran, & Russia.

Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include Eastern Europe.

Voted YES on killing a bill for trade sanctions if China sells weapons.

Voted NO on cap foreign aid at only $12.7 billion.

Voted NO on limiting the President's power to impose economic sanctions.

Voted YES on $17.9 billion to IMF.

Voted YES on permanent normal trade relations with China.

Voted YES on renewing 'fast track' presidential trade authority.

Voted YES on Approving the presidential line-item veto.

Voted NO on banning more types of Congressional gifts.

Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act.

It's impractical to deport 14 million illegal immigrants.

Voted YES on comprehensive immigration reform.

Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government.

Voted YES on establishing a Guest Worker program.

Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.

Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship.

Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work.

Knocked out of 1988 race due to plagiarizing a speech.

Voted NO on Social Security Lockbox & limiting national debt.

Voted NO on requiring super-majority for raising taxes.

Leaving Iraq will cause generation-long regional war.

Voted for Iraq War resolution. Voted YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq.

In 2002 Saddam posed a threat of purchasing a nuclear bomb.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-08-22   7:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Dakmar (#36)

I liked the younger kids there, but who were the dirtballs?

Howard Dean said “If you look at folks of color, even women, they’re more successful in the Democratic party than they are in the white, uh, excuse me, in, uh, Republican party.”

All-in-all, wasn't the McCain campaign right to pounce on that?

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-22   11:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Dakmar (#37)

Black Sabbath: Planet Caravan

Try this instead.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-30   18:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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