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Title: .S. Secret Service on Way to Biden's House; Kaine and Bayh Told Nope on Veep
Source: ABC
URL Source: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/us-secret-servi.html
Published: Aug 22, 2008
Author: ABC
Post Date: 2008-08-22 23:33:17 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 418
Comments: 39

The United States Secret Service has dispatched a protective detail to assume the immediate protection of Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., a source tells ABC News, indicating in all likelihood that Biden has been officially notified that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, has selected him to be his running mate.

Sources also tell ABC News that two others said to be finalists for the position of Obama's running mate -- Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and Virginia Gov Tim Kaine -- have been told they have not been selected to be Obama's running mate.

Kaine flew to Denver earlier today, is in Denver tonight and has no plans to leave in the next 24 hours. Bayh is at his Washington, DC, home with his family.

Biden was last seen minutes ago at his Wilmington estate where his extended brood is gathering.

The Obama campaign would not comment, but Obama mentioned Biden twice in speeches on the trail this week, both times heralding his legislative leadersip in East Asia.

At the VFW convention in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday, Obama said, "we must help Georgia rebuild that which has been destroyed. That is why I’m proud to join my friend, Senator Joe Biden, in calling for an additional $1 billion in reconstruction assistance for the people of Georgia."

And in Chesapeake, Virginia, Friday night, Obama heralded Biden's efforts to provide economic assistance to Afghanistan.

"I joined with people like Joe Biden to increase a billion dollars of investment," he said.

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#1. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

"Hey, Whitey!! Look, I've got a White Man as my Veep!!"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-08-22   23:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15, Hayek Fan (#1)

The primary function of a Veep is to make the Prez look good by comparison. Joe Biden makes even McCain look good.

The weak point of the Dem side is that Obama is not doing well with white women over 40.

McCain is a Deal Buster for me. Normally I am a Republican but I have never voted for anyone named Bush. Barr does not inspire me. I will vote for Nader again.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2008-08-22   23:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike, iconoclast, a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

how do you guys feel about this pick?

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christine  posted on  2008-08-23   0:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#3)

It's not official yet. That is circumstantial evidence as far as the Secret Service dispatch goes. I will wait for the official announcement to comment on my opinion, thanks.

I don't jump to conclusions that easily.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-23   0:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#3)

--

Joe Biden Rips GOP On Iraq War Resolution

OK, they are all over this on the DU. I like Joe Biden, I am not crazy about him. I really like Obama allot, and of course much more then Joe. I wish Senator Obama good health as POTUS I might add.

The VPOTUS candidate should make te man running for the top spot look good, and Joe Biden does that. I just hope his love of rhetorical plagerism in years past does not re-occur.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-23   0:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#3)

Sue that hair transplant doc Joe. Seriously, if you were a woman and that was done to you, you'd of had him tortured to death by now.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-23   0:23:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#3) (Edited)

Obama/Biden VP Meeting. . .


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-08-23   0:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

I don't jump to conclusions that easily.

(*^*^&^()&)&_*^&%^$%#^#

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

noone222  posted on  2008-08-23   3:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

Biden at times makes McCain look completely under control.

Not a good choice; unless Biden is kept on a short leash, he is likely to do more damage to the Obama campaign than good.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-08-23   4:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#3) (Edited)

Since you asked, it seems to be of a 'chess move' type, meant to 'balance' Obama's youth and lack of experience in organizing or supporting the killing of foreigners so that we can sing 'America the Pretty' and be proud.

I always thought that Obama will go with a man that's very white to counter his blackness (man because 'women' are also viewed as oppressed minorities and he's an oppressed minority already). Biden meets the requirement and adds the 'experience' dimension of which McCain and, before McCain, Hillary claimed that they had and Obama didn't.

On the practical benefit of picking Biden, I stated recently that he was a big-mouth clown as a negative. It's possible that, within the context of McCain's infantile and loud attacks on Obama's 'celebrity' his qualities may help Obama a little. He is also well liked by the big heads on the TV.

On Biden's role, if Obama-Biden are elected, I don't believe that Biden will become Obama's Cheney. W let Cheney take charge of things because he's a complete moron and an ignoramus. Obama is well-read and intelligent. He might 'consult' with Biden, especially during his honeymoon but I doubt he would let Biden take charge of anything significant. I am also happy to notice that Biden is 65. This means that he is not likely to ever be president because the first time he could run for the job, if Obama-Biden win in 2008, would be at the age of 73.

These are my initial thoughts on the Obama-Biden.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-23   9:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

"we must help Georgia rebuild that which has been destroyed. That is why I’m proud to join my friend, Senator Joe Biden, in calling for an additional $1 billion in reconstruction assistance for the people of Georgia."

Globalist pos - what about N.O., and all the towns in the mid-west that need to be rebuilt?

Lod  posted on  2008-08-23   9:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

LOL - funny but... the Obama voice sounded like Nixon's.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-23   9:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)

Vast, let me know when the dream finally dies. I predict it will be 1-2 months into the administration for you, if Obama wins.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-23   9:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222 (#8)

"When I was a young Senator, I used to say, "If I were a Jew I'd be a Zionist."

I am a Zionist. You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist."

----------------------------------------------------------------

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

-------------------------------------------------------------

I'll repeat your comment:

(*^*^&^()&)&_*^&%^$%#^#

AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.

wbales  posted on  2008-08-23   9:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeye (#13)

Vast, let me know when the dream finally dies. I predict it will be 1-2 months into the administration for you, if Obama wins.

The dream never dies for partisans of the two-party fraud. The Obamaphiles will happily embrace and defend the war in Iraq and the future war in Iran and any other war we fight once their man is in office just like the Bushtards embraced nation building once their savior took office.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-08-23   10:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeye (#13)

I stated a long time ago, and I stated it repeatedly but I shall do it again.

- Obama already fulfilled half of his main mission: he kept the Clintons out of the WH.
- I will be completely happy when he does the other half: keeping McCain/Giuliani/Liebermans and assorted monsters out of the WH as well.

If he does both, anything extra would be a bonus. So, for at least the next 4 years, I would be fine with Obama because the Clintons and the GOP monsters would be out of the WH after 2 months, after 4 months and after 3 years.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-23   10:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#16)

Interesting perspective, except that Clinton isn't as bad as it can get.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-23   10:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeye (#15)

The dream never dies for partisans of the two-party fraud. The Obamaphiles will happily embrace and defend the war in Iraq and the future war in Iran and any other war we fight once their man is in office just like the Bushtards embraced nation building once their savior took office.

The only difference we will see between an Obama administration and a Bush administration will be the people supporting them. The overall direction of the country is heading in will not change, nor will American hegeomy in the world.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-08-23   10:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Hayek Fan (#18)

Well... the 'American hegemony in the world' is changing whether 'we' like it or not and with or without Obama. The question is whether we are going to go down screaming and bleeding or we're going to do a softer landing.

In both World Wars we ended up standing and on top because we didn't get involved until later in the game. We may be able to end up on top one more time if we have the discipline to stay out of conflicts that don't concern us and let the Euros/Russians/Chinese/Arabs/Jews... whatever kill each other by the millions. Then we can sell them American-made coffins and grave-digging equipment and get rich in the process.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-23   10:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#19)

Well... the 'American hegemony in the world' is changing whether 'we' like it or not and with or without Obama. The question is whether we are going to go down screaming and bleeding or we're going to do a softer landing.

In both World Wars we ended up standing and on top because we didn't get involved until later in the game. We may be able to end up on top one more time if we have the discipline to stay out of conflicts that don't concern us and let the Euros/Russians/Chinese/Arabs/Jews... whatever kill each other by the millions. Then we can sell them American-made coffins and grave-digging equipment and get rich in the process.

If it goes down at all it will go down screaming regardless of which party is in power. Those who control Obama-Biden and McCain-whoever will not go down without a fight. They don't care how many Americans their policies kill, nor do the majority of the American people for that matter. As long as it's not their family members do the dying. And it won't be because both the Obama and McCain administrations will continue to require the same military men to risk their lives over and over and over again, stop lossing them so that they cannot escape.

Obama's pick of Biden should prove to everyone that Obama's "change" is a fraud. Biden is the biggest pro-war/zionist/establishment shill in the Democratic Party. The only one who would have beaten him was Leiberman, but he's not a democrat anymore.

Not to worry though because it would not surprise me if McCain picked Leiberman for VP.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-08-23   10:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

At the VFW convention in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday, Obama said, "we must help Georgia rebuild that which has been destroyed. That is why I’m proud to join my friend, Senator Joe Biden, in calling for an additional $1 billion in reconstruction assistance for the people of Georgia."

Another billion dollars in the pockets of the crooks who came to power in the "Rose" revolution. That's REAL change. I'm still forced to vote for these hunyoks. McCain turns my stomach even worse.

www .timesonline.co.uk/tol...europe/article2826196.ece

Rube Goldberg  posted on  2008-08-23   11:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: wbales, Hayek Fan (#14)

"When I was a young Senator, I used to say, "If I were a Jew I'd be a Zionist."

I am a Zionist. You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist."

hmmmmm......what do you make of this From judicial-inc:

excerpt

Just Who Is Senator Biden?

Biden is of Iraqi Jewish descent.

He voted in the Iraq election based on his "heritage"

Biden And His Wife Jill Jacobs ....

Biden's Great Grandfather Was An Iraqi Jew....

Who Cares If Biden Is Jewish?

Biden is a Zionist fanatic, and he sends your kids to die in Iraq.

The Israeli fanatic American Zionist Senator Joseph Biden insisted to vote in Babylon (Not the Green Zone) in remembrance of his great grandfathers’ exile in Iraq. Unfortunately, he does not have any official Iraqi document to prove that he ascended from Iraqi Jewry, but he relied on his Torah to validate his claim to the Iraqi election committee

http://judicial-inc.biz/biden.htm

retort from www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message592584/pg1

I can't view the videos.

What gives?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-23   18:29:38 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22)

Biden is of Iraqi Jewish descent.

Do you have documentation for that?

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-23   18:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeye (#23)

Do you have documentation for that?

No.....

what do you make of this From judicial-inc:....

I can't view the videos.

I couldn't find anything. That's why I asked "what gives?" I thought maybe this was something you all knew about and it had gone over my head somewhere along the way.

according to some at godlikeproductions, it's all b.s.

What's with Biden's purple finger?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-23   19:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)

He does seem to be Irish, but he acts like a convert to Zionism. It's the converts who give us the most trouble.

What's with Biden's purple finger?
I don't know, but I'm looking forward to the day when we have a choice on our own ballots.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-23   19:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeye (#25)

I'm looking forward to the day when we have a choice on our own ballots.

I wouldn't stand on one foot and hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-23   19:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeye (#25)

He does seem to be Irish, but he acts like a convert to Zionism.

The Jewish part wouldn't surprise me in the least. I would be more surprised if he weren't Jewish. It occurred to me a while ago, how fitting the Mossad motto, by deception thou shalt do war, is for these people. They like to claim lineage from Jacob, who pretended to be Esau, to steal his blessing. Now they are pretending to be Israel, to steal the inheritance of the church.

[My only question is the Iraqi part. I would like to know where judicial-inc got this information.]

Rumor has it, and based on the [anti-Christ] founding of the US government, and what the Bible has to say in Ezekiel 17:1-10, it would appear many, if not most, if not all of the Presidential candidates, at least, have been "Jewish".

Royal U.S. Presidential Bloodlines -- Why Voting in America Doesn't Matter ... .... Did you know all 43 U.S. presidents have carried European royal bloodlines into office? ... http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message559001/pg2

Royal US Presidents On the other hand, I know of at least two US presidents who could trace their lineage back to English or Irish royalty. Both of these lines are of Judah. ... http://www.asis.com/~stag/uspres.html

THE ROYAL HOUSE OF BRITAIN Methinks Judah is ruling the United States as well. Here's some more information on American Presidents' ties with the line of David/European royalty ... http://www.asis.com/~stag/royalty.html

Family Forest® - eBooks Cousin Relationships Calculated by the Family Forest August 8, 2004 (*). Some Famous Cousins of, Senator John Forbes Kerry, President George W. Bush ... http://www.familyforest.com/Kerry_Bush_Cousins.html

Family Forest® - News & Reviews Kerry and Bush Now Shown as Closer Cousins ... sourced ancestral history lineage-linked in the Family Forest, to be at least 9th cousins twice removed. ... http://www.familyforest.com/Kerry_Bush_Closer_Cousins.html

Merovingian Lineage of 2008 Presidential Candidates THE MEROVINGIAN ANCESTRY OF THE. 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ...... For evidence that CAIN was the progenitor of the Merovingian bloodline, see: HEEDING ... http://www.watch-unto-prayer.org/dragon-lineage.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-23   20:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)

What's with Biden's purple finger?

It is somehow related to the bullet proof vest.

Biden is a Certified Isreali Firster.

I now fully expect McCain to name Lieberman as his VP choice.

AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.

wbales  posted on  2008-08-23   20:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: James Deffenbach, buckeye (#26)

I'm looking forward to the day when we have a choice on our own ballots.

I wouldn't stand on one foot and hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

lol!

Personally, I'm looking forward to the day when this government is plucked up.

I am reminded of a dream J.R. Nyquist had 20 years ago, showing him four presidents. He recognized Reagan and GWBI. He didn't recognize Clinton and BushII. When he asked who came after them, he was told none. The republic ends. I just went to find the article with the URL, and it went to this page instead [ all-things-new.net/topic/6512078/1/ ], where someone [who if you continue reading, is most likely a false prophet (for the PTB)] is predicting that Hurricane Gustav is going to devastate America/the East Coast. This would tie into NWO plans I have heard of in the past. This is supposed to be bigger than 9/11, and like 9/11, to precede Rosh Hashanah, which makes perfect sense. It's always "a time of their choosing". I imagine they would love to kick off their New Year with the destruction of America. They seem to be referencing a Biblical passage I have quoted often. It was intended for the comfort of God's people, the "endtime" church IN AMERICA. [I know I am a voice in the wilderness on that point.] I think they may find "the staff" lifted against them. Everything seems to be lining up as God said it would.

[This appears to be a Christian Zionist website, but they were quoting Nyquist's dream from offsite. I think he was sincere. ]

We've been in the battle of Gog and Magog for a while now. If they are planning something THAT BIG for America, this may just be their waterloo, and that will be the end of the republic, just like Nyquist's dream.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze038.html#18

Gotta go.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-23   21:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: wbales, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, scrapper2 (#28)

Biden is a Certified Isreali Firster.

Behavior, not blood, is what matters most here — in my view.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-23   21:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: wbales (#28)

It is somehow related to the bullet proof vest.

You lost me :)

I now fully expect McCain to name Lieberman as his VP choice.

You are probably right. I hope everyone is right with Jesus. It sure looks to me like the time is getting close for Him to kick some you-know-what.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-23   21:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#31)

It sure looks to me like the time is getting close

Too many think it's a game where chances come to us without end. They do not.

I also believe, this particular 'time' is short.

nikki  posted on  2008-08-23   21:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#29)

I am reminded of a dream J.R. Nyquist had 20 years ago, showing him four presidents.

I didn't know about Nyquist. Interesting guy, but he seems to be looking at the world through the perspective of the Cold War still.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-23   21:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#31) (Edited)

I hope everyone is right with Jesus. It sure looks to me like the time is getting close for Him to kick some you-know-what.

Preface: I usually avoid religious/faith based arguments as they prove little and resolve less.

That being said: at this point in my life I do not believe that Jesus or a representative thereof is going to appear on earth and right all wrongs--wave a magic wand and dispense a peaceful bliss--EVER.

No, all earthly religions are made by and for man.

And, all earthly religions and adherents thereof are manipulated by and for man- -far too often with mortal geo-political motivations based in power and greed.

There shall be no Armageddon unless it be by and for man. The only Revelations shall be man made.

Of course, organized religion plays an incredibly important part in universal society order. That cannot be discounted.

But to say that one religion is more "right" than others or that the tenants of one religion is the key to universal salvation and/or rescue is, my apologies, delusional.

We are on our own and not doing a very good job of it.

The only ass kicking shall be by human such as yourself and I when we can no longer endure that which is being shoveled upon us.

AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.

wbales  posted on  2008-08-23   21:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: wbales (#34)

When one allows that religion has been politicized to elicit control, you can see it's error. There is one essential golden rule. Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. To me, it's that simple.

nikki  posted on  2008-08-23   21:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: nikki (#35)

Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.

Mar 12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-23   23:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: James Deffenbach (#36)

Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.

Mar 12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

THANK YOU for posting the verse! If we could just get the 'leaders' to go along with that now.

nikki  posted on  2008-08-24   8:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nikki (#37)

THANK YOU for posting the verse! If we could just get the 'leaders' to go along with that now.

You are most welcome. Our "leaders" only seem to go along with what will make more money for them, their friends and their "owners."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-24   9:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: wbales (#34)

We are on our own

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I AM with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat028.html#20

I guess we'll have to disagree on the subject of religion :)

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-08-24   18:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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