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Title: Nasa space program under threat
Source: Independent Online
URL Source: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?art_id=nw20080825085136117C904661
Published: Aug 25, 2008
Author: staff
Post Date: 2008-08-25 22:45:37 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 134
Comments: 3

Washington - The chill left on US-Russian relations by Moscow's military incursion into Georgia could spell problems for future US access to the International Space Station, US experts said.

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration will become dependent on flights to the ISS by Russia's Soyuz spacecraft when it retires the shuttle fleet that has long ferried US astronauts into space in 2010.

Nasa will only get its successor space vehicle, Orion, planned for a revival of trips to the moon, ready for flight in 2015 at the earliest.

That leaves the needs of US astronauts visiting the ISS vulnerable to the possibility of a new Cold War between Washington and Moscow after Russia's powerful military overran much of Georgia two weeks ago in the dispute about South Ossetia.

"If recent Russian actions are any indicator, a technical excuse to completely block US access to the ISS for geopolitical reasons would fit nicely into the Kremlin toolkit," Vincent Sabathier, an expert on human space exploration at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said.

Sabathier noted that not only was the short Georgia war a serious thorn in relations, but also the US determination to set up in Poland and the Czech Republic its missile defence system, which Russia calls a threat to its military.

"Almost immediately after the Czech Republic signed an agreement with the US to place missile defence tracking radar in its territory, oil supplies through the Druzhba pipeline to the central European country were reduced to a trickle ... ostensibly for technical reasons," Sabathier said.

The end of the three-decade-old shuttle program leaves Nasa with at least a five-year hole on which it will have to pay Russia's space agency to deliver and retrieve US astronauts and cargo to the ISS.

That depends as well on the US Congress voting an exemption to a 2000 law that bans US government agencies from opening contracts with countries like Russia that are considered aiding Iran and North Korea, which the US has labelled supporters of terrorism.

Even before the Georgia fighting erupted on August 8 there was opposition in the Congress to such an exemption, and now that has likely increased, according to Florida Democratic Senator Bill Nelson.

"In an election year, it was going to be very difficult to get that waiver to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to an increasingly aggressive Russia," Nelson said.

"Now, I'd say it's almost impossible."

Nelson, who supports allowing Nasa to contract the Soyuz, said that without the exemption the US could find itself in 2011 with no access to the $100-billion space station - largely paid for by the United States.

Because the ISS needs someone aboard all the time to keep it going, the situation, Nelson said, would mean leaving the station to "degrade and burn up on entry, or with us ceding it to those who can get there."

Nasa's chief Michael Griffin said just days before the Georgia conflict erupted that it was a "great concern" that something could happen to make Soyuz unavailable.

"If anything at all in that five years period goes wrong with the Russian Soyuz, then we have no system to access the space station."

But after the Russia invasion of Georgia, Nasa downplayed the political risk, saying it has a long history of cooperation with the Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos).

"While it is possible that government-to-government issues could potentially have an impact on other aspects of a relationship between nations, including co-operative space exploration activities, Nasa believes that it will be able to rely upon Roscosmos-provided Soyuz vehicles for future space station activities."

John Logsdon of George Washington University's Space Policy Centre expects Congress to allow the waiver, "as long as Russia can be said to be abiding by the terms of the cease-fire (in Georgia)."

"There is an issue but I don't think it's so strong to prevent the waiver from passing, as long as Russian behaviour is what it has been agreed to on Georgia," Logsdon said.

However, he said, "if the situation with Russia gets much worst, then it's very hard to project what might happen because again, there is really no viable alternative."

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

Hasn't Obama promised a bunch of dough for NASA? He'll save the space program too!

(...but I wonder how well affirmative action works in microgravity.)

They say they are for "diversity". What they really are for is slavery.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-25   23:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tauzero (#1) (Edited)

(...but I wonder how well affirmative action works in microgravity.)

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“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-08-25   23:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#0)

Nasa space program under threat

Probably a good thing, consider that the Vorlons have threatened to nova our sun if we do more than think about trying to leave the solar system.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2008-08-25   23:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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