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Title: The "eloquent speaker," Barack Obama (Barack Obama Uh-Count)
Source: you tube
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Published: Aug 25, 2008
Author: BHO
Post Date: 2008-08-25 23:18:12 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 489
Comments: 31

Poster comment: Without a script and a teleprompter, he is toast.

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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Well he's certainly no Alan Dershowitz, and this would make for a good drinking game.

However, seeing as how many of the verbally polished say either nothing or nonsense, I won't hold this against him.

They say they are for "diversity". What they really are for is slavery.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-25   23:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tauzero (#1)

Yes, but what is sad is that his supporters talk about how brilliant and what a great speaker he is. And if they really believe that they have never heard him when he didn't have a prepared script and a teleprompter because in that situation he appears to be pretty close to hopeless.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-26   0:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)

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FREEDOM IS JUST ANOTHER WORD, FOR NOTHEN LEFT TO LOSE.....Janis Joplin

Christian Soldier  posted on  2008-08-27   8:55:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Good thing that they had a counter going on: I lost track in the first ten seconds.

A nation of idiots, ruled by tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-27   9:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Christian Soldier (#3)

LOL! That diaper with the word CHANGE on it was a nice touch. I bet if you gave him enough Ex Lax to clean him out he would fit in a matchbox--a small matchbox.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   9:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#4)

Lodwick, it is really worse than that counter in that little clip indicated. Somewhere there is a transcript of him saying um and uh for close to eight minutes if I remember right. Guy's a freakin' moron.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   9:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach. everyone (#6)

Guy's a freakin' moron.

They should do a counter of McKook using the 'my friends' phrase.

A nation of idiots, ruled by tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-27   9:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Without a script and a teleprompter, he is toast.

Not sure I can agree with your assurtion.

The current dumbass-in-chief comes off like a drunken version of Forrest Gump (without the wisdom) every time he speaks - even with a script and teleprompter.

I doubt that this criticism will make any real difference.

Paris / Rihanna 2008

WhiteGuy  posted on  2008-08-27   12:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lodwick (#7)

They should do a counter of McKook using the 'my friends' phrase.

Yeah, they should. Him calling everyone he talks to "my friend" proves he is a phony. No one has that many friends.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   14:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: WhiteGuy (#8)

The current dumbass-in-chief comes off like a drunken version of Forrest Gump (without the wisdom) every time he speaks - even with a script and teleprompter.

Bush is an example that parents can point out to their children and truthfully exclaim the old proverb "See, anybody can grow up and become President of the United States of America! ;-)

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-08-27   14:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: WhiteGuy (#8)

Not sure I can agree with your assurtion.

The current dumbass-in-chief comes off like a drunken version of Forrest Gump (without the wisdom) every time he speaks - even with a script and teleprompter.

And I should care whether you agree with my assertion? The proof is in the transcripts and the videos where he doesn't have a prepared script and a teleprompter.

And yes, Bush does come across as very stupid but no more than Obama does. They are like the twins, Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber. With these versions of the twins the only way to tell them apart is their color.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   14:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15 (#10)

Bush is an example that parents can point out to their children and truthfully exclaim the old proverb "See, anybody can grow up and become President of the United States of America! ;-)

Bush proves that the worst among us are not completely useless; he can always be pointed to as a bad example.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   14:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: James Deffenbach (#6)

The transcript is made up, and the tape is an edited version compiling all his uh's into one 8 minute piece from a variety of speeches.

It's a joke.

But, his uh's do add up.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-08-27   14:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: swarthyguy (#13) (Edited)

The transcript is made up, and the tape is an edited version compiling all his uh's into one 8 minute piece from a variety of speeches.

The uh's and um's are from ONE speech in Amman, Jordan, according to the guy who posted it. I don't know because I wasn't there but I have seen some transcripts and have seen some videos which were supposed to be live where he did a lot of stammering and stuttering. At any rate, the guy who posted it said that it was from that one speech and that of the total speech over seven minutes of it was uh's and um's. Doesn't make Obama look all that bright.

Edit: When I posted this I was thinking of a different video I saw earlier today. It has the uh's and um's from the speech he made in Jordan, not this one on this thread.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   14:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach (#14) (Edited)

of the total speech over seven minutes of it was uh's and um's

Say from a one hour speech, that's not much.

Perhaps, but IMO strains credulity and I have no idea who the guy who posted it is. And I heard a similar excerpt on a talk show and they were clear that it was a compilation.

Doesn't pass the smell test. Unless you got unedited video to prove it's veracity, I say it's BS.

And isn't it absolutely ludicrous to badmouth Obie for his speaking skills when we've had the loquacious and eloquent Dubya spouting inspirational and poetic paeans.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-08-27   14:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: swarthyguy (#15)

I don't much care whether you believe it or not and if you choose to believe Obama is brighter than the sun that is your business. I don't happen to believe he is but then I never thought Hillary was the "smartest woman in the world" either like some people seem to.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   14:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: swarthyguy (#15)

Say from a one hour speech, that's not much.

Yeah, but from a effin' 41 MINUTE speech that is just about 20%! It wasn't a "one hour speech" and seven minutes of uh's and um's in 41 minutes is a lot.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   14:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: swarthyguy (#15)

And isn't it absolutely ludicrous to badmouth Obie for his speaking skills when we've had the loquacious and eloquent Dubya spouting inspirational and poetic paeans.

I'm not a camp follower of either one of them and never have said Bush was a good speaker because he isn't.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   14:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: James Deffenbach (#16)

if you choose to believe Obama is brighter than the sun that is your business.

Fucking shit.

Of course it's my business.

OTH, your comprehension levels seem lacking.

How does your mind proceed to that conclusion from my post.

Certainly not with logic.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-08-27   14:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: James Deffenbach (#18) (Edited)

never have said Bush was a good speaker because he isn't.

Never said you said he was.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-08-27   14:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: swarthyguy (#19)

Nothing wrong with my comprehension, I assure you. I know and understand English very well. As for logic, I don't have any problems in that area either.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   15:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: James Deffenbach (#11)

And yes, Bush does come across as very stupid but no more than Obama does.

It must be very lonely in your world. :-(

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-08-27   15:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: James Deffenbach (#14)

I am terrible public speaker myself. But even I wouldn't say that many uh's and um's in a speech. It is a clear sign not of nervousness on his part, becasue he speaks everyday to groups, but to just not really knowing the subject matter very well. With me it is mostly all nervousness.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-08-27   16:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: swarthyguy (#15)

Say from a one hour speech, that's not much.

Oh yeah it is. Compare an Obama speech to a JFK speech and see how many uh's and um's JFK says in TWO hours compared to Obama in 1 minute. Obama would still win by a landslide. I doubt JFK would even say one.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-08-27   16:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: iconoclast (#22)

It must be very lonely in your world. :-(

No, not really. I have a great family and some wonderful friends and I am not lonely at all. Just because I am not a camp follower of some idiot like some people are doesn't make me lonely.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   16:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: RickyJ (#23)

I am terrible public speaker myself. But even I wouldn't say that many uh's and um's in a speech.

Most people who aren't better public speakers than that just wouldn't be giving speeches. They would find another line of work closer to their real talents, whatever they may be.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   16:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

We all make the occasional "uhm" when talking. With BHO, the biggest problem isn't the delivery, it's the content. Or, rather, the complete LACK of content.

Early on the the primaries, I had him pinned as the Democrat's Fred Thompson - somebody who goes around saying things at pep rallies that make people feel good but don't really mean anything.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-27   17:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Christian Soldier (#3)

Hilarious!

If only they had a way to fit "yes we can" into the picture.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-27   17:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#27)

We all make the occasional "uhm" when talking. With BHO, the biggest problem isn't the delivery, it's the content. Or, rather, the complete LACK of content.

Yes, that is the problem with him. He is an empty suit.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   19:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach. everyone (#29)

Let's stop on this one.

Have smirk and bho debate the color of the sky.

Could they do any worse?

A nation of idiots, ruled by tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-27   21:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: James Deffenbach (#29)

Obama doesn't hold a candle to Ted Kennedy...there is a radio show in the Boston area that regularly challenges listeners to count the number of uh's that Kennedy spews during a press conference or speech. It's not easy, folks...

The host calls the segment "Wizard of Uh's"...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-08-27   21:18:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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