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Title: Clinton die-hards voice anger in convention protest
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AFP
URL Source: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jBVZuDC6NTFcOMGz5wbSM6BoNe4g
Published: Aug 26, 2008
Author: staff
Post Date: 2008-08-26 18:10:47 by mirage
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Views: 191
Comments: 10
DENVER, Colorado (AFP) — Defiant Hillary Clinton loyalists marched through Denver Tuesday to vent anger at the outcome of the bitter Democratic primary race in a final show of support for their beaten idol. Just hours before Clinton was to address Democrats in a speech that party grandees hope will heal the schism caused by the nominating battle, more than 1,000 supporters of the former first lady paid vocal tribute to her campaign. Despite the calls for a unified front heading into November's presidential election, it is clear that some of Clinton's supporters will never be able to forgive Barack Obama for his hard-fought victory. "We're here to say thank you to Hillary and to protest the fraud perpetrated on us by the Democratic National Committee," said Geoff Clunas, 51, of Seattle. "It wasn't a contest, it was a foregone conclusion. They (the DNC leadership) just decided that Barack Obama was going to win." Clunas, a life-long Democrat, said he would boycott this year's election because of the perceived unfairness of Clinton's defeat. "It's going to be the first time since 1976 that I haven't voted. I just don't trust Obama. I think he'll do more harm than good." Laurie Long, a 49-year-old human resources director for a Los Angeles non-profit organization, said she felt betrayed by the leadership of the Democratic Party and did not trust Obama. "We're here to tell the Democratic leadership that it's not okay to ignore 18 million voices," Long told AFP, referring to the tally of votes accumulated by Clinton in the primary battle. Long said she had doubts about Obama's background and said she now planned to vote for Republican candidate John McCain in the election. "I don't trust Obama. He flip-flops all the time. We don't know anything about his past. How do we know he's not some kind of militant? I'm voting for McCain," Long said. Andrea Biggs, a 19-year-old student from Seattle, expressed similar sentiments but said she was still undecided about who to vote for. "There's a lot of us who feel pissed and angry at the party for the way Hillary was treated. There was a lot of sexism in the media and the whole process seemed rigged against her," Biggs said. "At the moment I don't know who I am voting for. I want to be able to forgive Barack Obama, but what happened to Hillary bugs me. I don't know though that I could bring myself to vote for a Republican," she added. But despite the pockets of rancor amongst the Clinton fanatics here Tuesday, many said that they would swing firmly behind Obama in time for the election. "I was unhappy and upset that she lost, but I'm going to be voting for Obama in November," said Carol White, 68. "He's a brilliant leader and we have to have unity in the party to win the election." Meanwhile two 20-year-old convention delegates from Michigan -- a key state won by Clinton whose votes were initially excluded from the primary race -- said Obama would have their support. "I'm disappointed, hurt and angry about Hillary, but I'm not deluded," said Brandon Hayes. "Four more years of a Bush presidency under McCain would be a disaster for our country." Hayes fellow delegate Kelly Bernero chimed: "We're not going to shoot ourselves in the foot in November. Hillary rocks but any true Democrat will vote for Obama." Poster Comment: The PUMAs don't give up, do they?
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#1. To: mirage (#0)
Obama's convention and McCain gets the bounce!
The Democrats have been living off of identity politics for so long now that it is turning around to bite them hard in the ass. Divide and Conquer is great military strategy and great political strategy so long as it doesn't become ingrained and the "who is who" shifts with each race or battle. Now history catches up with them as the permanent policies of victimhood take control. May as well just open the White House to McCain now, it seems. Sigh....
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
The same could be said for Hillary and McCain. Any of them will do more harm than good. I don't think the Constitution Party made the ballot where I live so I don't have a dog in this fight. Won't vote for the "lesser of two evils" because that is still knowingly voting for evil. I will be sitting this one out too I guess, at least the presidential charade, because there is nothing to vote for.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Write in Ron Paul. There is ALWAYS an alternative and a vote is NEVER wasted if it reflects your conscience.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
There is ALWAYS an alternative and a vote is NEVER wasted if it reflects your conscience. Write in's are a waste of time, at least they are in this state. This is a short excerpt from an email that one of my friends sent me--and he was pissed too because he had written in people in the past and they were never counted. Q. If I do not wish to vote for either presidential candidate, can I vote for Hillary Clinton as a write-in candidate? -- M.R.M. A. There are several reasons why a write-in vote in the general election for Hillary Clinton for president would not be counted. Most pertinently, there is a petition process that is required for any would-be write-in candidate in XXXXX to be added to an approved list of write-ins. A registered voter cannot just show up and write in any person's name with the expectation that this vote would be counted. If you write in Cookie Monster, your vote will not count, unless Cookie Monster has petitioned to be a write-in candidate in this state. My question would be, why wouldn't they count the vote(s) for Cookie Monster? He is better than Obama and McCain for goodness sakes.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Fair enough, but they still have to read the ballot. Maybe I take protest to a new level on this, but forget the process, go with what your conscience tells you. A friend of mine is going to write-in 'Present' on her ballot, just like Obama votes in the Senate...
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Black box machines don't allow 'write-ins.' As far as I've been able to tell.
A nation of idiots, ruled by tyrants.
They do, but you have to be adept at finding it. Not something everyone can figure out.
That probably leaves me out. But I may, or may not, try. Thanks for the info.
A nation of idiots, ruled by tyrants.
This may be of some use. You may be able to find some documentation by finding your voting machine model, and then looking for a quick reference guide for it -- in advance of voting. And no, I'm not suggesting that this is effective in fighting miscount voting fraud. But if you want your vote to count if it happens to be counted honestly, then it makes sense to look up your system and know how to use it before going in. You can probably also ask for a demonstration before you vote.
#2. To: swarthyguy (#1)
Obama's convention and McCain gets the bounce!
#3. To: mirage (#0)
"It's going to be the first time since 1976 that I haven't voted. I just don't trust Obama. I think he'll do more harm than good."
Lord Acton
#4. To: James Deffenbach (#3)
there is nothing to vote for
#5. To: mirage (#4)
Write in Ron Paul.
Lord Acton
#6. To: James Deffenbach (#5)
#7. To: mirage (#4)
#8. To: lodwick (#7)
#9. To: buckeye (#8)
#10. To: lodwick (#9)
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