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Title: WHAT'S WITH THIS GUY?
Source: Life
URL Source: http://none
Published: Aug 27, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-08-27 15:25:40 by iconoclast
Keywords: Division, Us vs Them, Healing
Views: 2235
Comments: 62

Ladies and gents, I feel the urge this afternoon to elaborate a bit on factors underlying my full throated, heart felt support of Barack Obama, so often scorned here. I fully realize it violates one of my favorite earthy propositions (Henry Ford II's "never apologize, never explain").

Let me first say that I fully understand a goodly amount of the revulsion at the prospect of a black President. Many of my fellow Americans and good friends have been turned off for decades by an irritating exposure to welfare queens, affirmative action, and the downward spiral of the black underclass. I feel your pain, sincerely. But if I may, and without condescension, I venture to suggest that many here are viewing the 21st century American racial scene "through a glass darkly".

Let me quickly add that I also appreciate that much of the revulsion arises from the leftist philosophy that taints all Democrats. And, I have two things to say about that. One, at least the Democrats remain true to their principles as contrasted to the abysmal abandonment of anything resembling conservatism by the Republicans. Second, and I grant you this is just my opinion, Obama is a decidedly moderate left-winger.

I have not come to my circa 2008 conclusions via any measure of "white guilt", a charge often made at me or about me in this forum. Also, I do not arrive at them based on some inflated impression of my own "insights". They are simply based on my own life experiences and my observation of American history.

First, the experiences. I was born, and have spent almost all my life, in what has become a middle America rust-belt city .... just forty years ago it was home base for five Fortune 500 companies. It now has one(?), zero (?) .. (it's not a fun thing to watch and keep score on). GWB and his minions certainly did not solely bring this about but, again IMHO, they quite possibly have applied the a death blow to the middle class and to American industry (never mind sovereignty, solvency, and worldwide respect). This morning's paper carried a list of the ten U.S. cities with lowest median household income. Yeppers, we made it.

My Dad was a UAW member, not a zealot, but one of the faceless mass that made up that association. The father of one of my best friends (Jim) in high school and college and was a Christian immigrant from Lebanon (I joked that my Dad immigrated from Tennessee). Jim's Dad and mine retired from the Chevy transmission plant in Toledo. We each got the importance of education lectured into us. Jim and I invested in a Christmas tree lot one year while we were in college. We both later started separate small businesses. He became a millionaire but died in a tragic auto accident out on Rt. 23. I emerged solvent but not wealthy from my twenty-year venture.

Jim went to Catholic schools, I to public. Our community has long been ethnic blue-collar.... Poles, Germans, Hungarians, Blacks, Mexicans, Arabs and Heinz 57 varieties like me. In grade school I developed a close friendship with a Black kid from two districts away. He occasionally came all the way over to my house to play backyard basketball. Later we went to high school and he played quarterback behind me. He was killed a couple years after high school. The more things change, the more they stay the same. In that same high school I had a few black classmates in my bookish classes (tracking was well established then) but i had a random sample of the population in homeroom. gym class, etc., so I got a broad exposure. Oh sure, I had some scrapes with black kids but never enough to shake me from my conviction that there are good folk and bad apples in every grouping or class of people.

In my adult years, as happenstance would have it, I made the acquaintance of a black guy in my golf league who later became my league partner (he's a lot of fun and a damned good golfer). An attorney, he also later represented me on several occasions. I have had black employees including managers and, late in my business career had the privilege of working under a an outstanding black executive .... one of the two best leaders I have personally encountered in my many working years. My kids had some black teachers, more good ones than bad (similar to the apocryphal little girl who, when she was good, was very, very good but when she was bad she was horrid ).

The history part? I attribute much of the long standing racial bad blood partly to historical circumstance (a divided nation for many decades). But it's at least equally attributable to well meaning(?) but not very intelligent politicians,

Number one, Lincoln. We are the only western nation on earth that resorted to a bloody internecine war to eliminate slavery. Skipping over the Klan and Jim Crow all the way to LBJ, the idiot (what is it about Texas pols?) that set integration back almost a hundred years and destroyed black family structure with his Great Society. This wonderful system of rewarding sloth and immorality brought a couple of previous decades of progress to a screeching halt and slowly but surely turned black communities into hellish social cesspools led by poverty pimps. This was followed by our long period of affirmative action that was encouraged by one party and abetted by the other. Thinking people of all hues recognize this nonsense as being as wrong-headed as other such schemes like forced housing integration and bussing to schools.

Well this turned out to be a bit of a wandering diatribe but may it provide a few clues (as opposed to rationalizations) as to my populist attitudes and my chosen screen name. At any rate, as a man once said, "that's my story (or a little part of it) and I'm stickin' to it".

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#6. To: iconoclast, Jethro Tull, Rupert_Pupkin (#0)

When I was about 5, I was riding in the car with my folks, and we stopped at the light next to a bus.

"Look! That bus driver is a woman!" I observed to my parents.

They were ever so silently pleased that I had not observed she was black.

The day care and kindergarten I attended was half-black. But it was a nice area. My father had a paper route through there -- this was back in the day when paperboys still carried money and collected money directly from customers.

My main teacher then was a black woman. What little I can remember about her, I remember fondly. She gave me back rubs at nap time. She called me "John John", as I reminded her of JFK.

Unfortunately, a clearer memory is of an older boy. He had some behavioral problems. My egalitarian teachers thought perhaps it would be a good idea to pair us up, that I might rub off on him. To my parents they suggested a play date, and they agreed. Once was enough for them.

But not for my teachers. They continued to force an association. Until one day he simply terrorized me. The encouragement was quietly dropped.

Still, then, the incident had no racial aspect for me.

Several years after kindergarten, there was a reunion of sorts of the parents of the center. My parents were not normal for this group, as they were still married (and still are today.)

Today, both the kindergarten and surrounding neighborhood are typical black hell-holes.

One day when I was four, my father received an odd phone call from my teacher. She was frantic.

"Your son can read! What do I do?"

"Let him read," replied my father.

And so I have.

Icon, your nice anecdote follows the same media blueprint for stories about some obscene incident of violence committed by blacks -- that yes, there are good blacks, smart blacks who deplore this behavior. What you leave unstated is the implied leap that the incident has nothing to do with race per se.

But it's a complete non-sequitur. Worse than that really. It is cant.

That's the real campaign slogan. "Yes we cant".

The races are different. Profoundly. And at least partly for biological reasons.

I will say this though: Given blacks' limitations -- and ours, since we're certainly never going to slaughter them or deport them -- I simply have no idea WHAT the hell to do with them, any more than my black teacher had any idea about what to do with me when she discovered I could read.

But whatever reasonable, ethical solution there may be, it will certainly never be based on cant.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-08-27   16:41:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tauzero, Jethro Tull, Rupert_Pupkin (#6)

The races are different. Profoundly. And at least partly for biological reasons.

T, no disagreement from this quarter. But my initial reaction is "so what". I am decidedly "racist" or tribal if you will. In terms of intellect I would put Asians (as a group) at the top. I do not have enough knowledge or exposure to attempt break them down by regions but I'm pretty sure differences do exist. My next "acquainted-with group" would be Jews, followed perhaps by Germans, Brits, other northern Europeans, etc. (Hell, I'm sure all of us could compile their own "guessed-at" list) and yes, Blacks in general would rank quite low (but I have a hunch that there again there would me measurable differences between "tribes" or regions). In short, and again IMO, the biggest problem blacks have in mixed societies is that they carry their "difference" so obviously.

I simply have no idea WHAT the hell to do with them

My mouth simply dropped at this statement. I have no idea of it's implication. I would simply reply that "we ain't in Kansas Eden anymore, Dorothy".

I would, and not facetiously, suggest we start with and end with the golden rule. I am simply left mouth agape and I certainly hope you don't have some thought like identifying "bad" genes and eliminating people on such a basis. One thing for damn sure that we could do is work to (further) reduce government programs that encourage the procreation of the least fit.

That being said, I still don't know quite where you are going with this. I think it inarguable that it is immoral to pre-judge persons based merely on appearance or any other cursory criteria. I look forward to more exchange because I am honestly unclear on just what you are trying convey.

Finally, with respect to your final word being "cant", I can assure you my views are sincere and by no means intended to be or rooted in triteness, sentimentality, or piousness.

Regrettably we have an engagement tonight (I tend to forget them, but my wife never does) so I to have to get out of here. I wouldn't have posted this today had I remembered it the damned thing. I hope we can continue tomorrow.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-08-27   18:53:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: iconoclast (#10)

One thing for damn sure that we could do is work to (further) reduce government programs that encourage the procreation of the least fit.

Better clear that with Obummer. Sounds like you will be working at cross purposes.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-27   22:13:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: James Deffenbach (#15)

Sounds like you will be working at cross purposes.

I have no more to learn about cross purposes after 8 years of GWB.

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