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Title: First Impressions of Palin [live from Ohio... it's Friday Afternoon!!!]
Source: TV
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Published: Aug 29, 2008
Author: TV
Post Date: 2008-08-29 12:18:42 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 5559
Comments: 247

The introduction is about to begin.

Let's hear first impressions from everyone as this is happening.

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#163. To: lodwick (#122)

Freedom, PEACE, and Prosperity was the heart and soul of RP's campaign, and appeal.

Exactly, loddy......so why the hell is she runnin with a war monger, for cryin out loud? I mean, Ron Paul he ain't!

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-29   18:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: christine (#138)

i can pretty safely bet my life on the fact that JT isn't voting for mcCain/palin. he just thinks she's cute.

She is "cute." In fact she is very pretty. But that doesn't mean I am going to vote for her because to vote for her would mean I would have to vote for that thing on the top of the ticket. And that ain't gonna happen.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   18:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#160) (Edited)

Obama slipped through, probably BECAUSE he was black and he could not be rejected as unceremoniously and as brutally as Ron Paul was

The only thing Obama and Ron Paul have in common is that they're both male humans who have run for President. Other than that, Zip.

One's a party animal in the mold of Joe Biden, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, the other is old school, genuine, and principled. Obama didn't "slip through," he was groomed for it by the old party hacks.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-29   18:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: scrapper2 (#134)

scrapper.......try 'splaining that to all the rapt 'ears' of the sheeple == within 8 seconds, of course. Aint' gonna happen. Its a part of his CV that he was such and such, and beyond that, the eyes would glaze over. To them, it would show he has experience.

Now, if you could disprove that he was editor or president of anything, that might change the picture--but again, you only have 8 seconds to convince people.

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-29   18:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: christine (#152)

can you imagine if months ago Paul had unveiled her as his VP? talk about a winner!

Yes. And if Ron won the nomination I could have had someone to vote for. As it is I don't have anyone to vote for. I think this is the first presidential election since I have been eligible that I am even debating about even going to the polls at all. And if I do go it won't be to vote for president because if I heard correctly the Constitution Party didn't make it on the ballot here. Maybe I can vote for someone running for the House or something but I am not sure at this point if I will even bother.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   18:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#158)

The ranks of "we" are getting pretty thin.

It does seem like it. But I don't believe that any REAL Ron Paul supporter would ever vote for Obama (or McCain either for that matter). He is too much a polar opposite from them.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   18:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: PnbC (#153)

She has publicly complained about fellow Republicans' unethical behavior and references Alaska's Constitution whenever she speaks. Considered a maverick in the GOP, she goes around saying things like: "Fiscally speaking, the private sector can do a better job than government can do." and "Also just trusting individuals to make wise decisions for themselves and families. I have a lot of trust in individuals. I don't trust government nearly as much." She recently signed a bill making it a crime for public servants not to report bribery they know about.

from your link.

That of course will not be enough to sway me to vote for either of the two parties. My vote has already been cast earlier this year. However, it will be the first time in awhile where the VP (who as we all know is a "heartbeat" away from the presidency) was preferable to the president. That's something fwiw.

agreed.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   19:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#158)

Rupert...

Dont cast me in either. The system is rotten to the core and total removal is the only answer.

If one looks at Palin on strictly party grounds politics, McKooK has made a wise choice.

Regardless of which loser wins, America loses.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   19:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: James Deffenbach (#167)

Charlie Rose - Sarah Palin

Old Friend  posted on  2008-08-29   19:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: James Deffenbach (#164)

She is "cute." In fact she is very pretty. But that doesn't mean I am going to vote for her because to vote for her would mean I would have to vote for that thing on the top of the ticket. And that ain't gonna happen.

James...

Write her in as Prez....

Then add cuz shes cute...We will know it was you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   19:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: PnbC (#153)

I think McCain will likely come in 2nd in the race to the bottom. Which means he will be the next ruler.

can you clarify? i'm not sure what you mean.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   19:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#165)

One's a party animal in the mold of Joe Biden, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, the other is old school, genuine, and principled. Obama didn't "slip through," he was groomed for it by the old party hacks.

i agree with you (again) with one caveat. obama was picked and groomed by hire ups than the old party hacks.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   19:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: rowdee (#157)

Flawed thinking on his part, no doubt...but then, what does he have going for him--in the brain dept.

Juan is bereft of gray-matter.

Poster-boy for 'I'm special because of my family, and my mega-bucks trophy wife.'

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: rowdee. all. anyone (#163)

Exactly, loddy......so why the hell is she runnin with a war monger, for cryin out loud? I mean, Ron Paul he ain't!

Who here would not run in the hope of making things better?

You may not be in love with the guy that invited you to the prom, but that doesn't mean that you can't go, and have a super time once there.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Old Friend (#171)

Thanks. Nice clip but I would like to know where she stands on issues like the damnable Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act just to name a couple of police state measures that McCain supports wholeheartedly. If I could ask her two or three questions I would know if she actually believes in that oath they are all required to take. I know McCain doesn't, Bush doesn't and Obama doesn't.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   19:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Cynicom (#172)

James...

Write her in as Prez....

Then add cuz shes cute...We will know it was you.

They don't count write in votes in this state, not even when it is for a pretty woman.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   19:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#147)

If he wanted to have a chance a winning he would have picked Romney who has governor experience, business experience, international experience, all greater than Paulin's by orders of magnitude and he is as conservative, pro-Zio and imperialistic as she is or even more so. His staff surely knows this.

Romney was too slick a hairdo. He lost the GOP Pres candidacy to McCain because of his image and also his Mormon religion was not too popular with the evangelicals and the IsraelFirster zionists. It did not matter that Romney slavishly pled his loyalty to Izzy, the Usual Suspects feared he was an anti-semite deep down in his Mormon heart.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-29   19:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: lodwick, christine, James Deffenbach (#176)

Looking at this mess on a strictly backroom political affair....

What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????

Mind you, not offer, but would ASK after the election, no commitment from himself or Hillary prior. For dirty politics that would put a slug on Congo Obummer and BS Biden.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   19:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: James Deffenbach, the thread (#177)

Thanks. Nice clip but I would like to know where she stands on issues like the damnable Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act just to name a couple of police state measures that McCain supports wholeheartedly. If I could ask her two or three questions I would know if she actually believes in that oath they are all required to take. I know McCain doesn't, Bush doesn't and Obama doesn't.

We should give it a break.

SP will be interviewed and grilled on all the questions that we've raised here.

I hope that she measures up to the very highest of our hopes.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: lodwick (#176)

You don't have to set aside your principles, loddy, to go to the prom--whether the guy/gal is cute/ugly or can dance/not dance. TO run as second fiddler with a guy that is as pro war/killing as you can get, believes every illegal alien has a right to be in this country at the local taxpayers' expense, yada yada, would mean that she has to l) agree with him OR 2) be a hypocrit by setting aside what she really believes in.

We don't need anymore hypocrits running the shop, either. :(

If she was so enamoured of ROn Paul and his positions, it would appear that #2 above is just as viable as #1......and I, for one, wouldn't consider voting for the person. Period.

There have to be some values/principles which cannot be set aside, IMO, cause if you don't stand for some thing, you will stand for anything.

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-29   19:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Cynicom (#180)

What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet?

I hope that he's not that stupid.

Anything that would get the bents close to the Oral Office is just insanity.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: lodwick (#183)

I hope that he's not that stupid.

Not stupid lod... smokey backroom politics...

This is now down to bare knuckles politicking as BOTH losers want to be President. Neither is in it to lose. McKooK is behind the black 8 ball so to speak, so what does he have to lose??? Nothing.

If he does not derail obummers train now there is no tomorrow for him.

The men in the backroom could care less which one is the "winner". They already own both horses.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   19:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: rowdee, all (#182)

As I've said several times, the only reason that I'm voting R, is in the greatest hope that Juan goes to 'his reward,' really, really soon.

It may, or may not be a long-shot bet, but that's all that I know to do.

Bottom line - the black boxes will give us our next regime.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Cynicom (#184)

The men in the backroom could care less which one is the "winner". They already own both horses.

They control the $$$ and the horses.

We lose. Regardless.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Cynicom (#180)

What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????

I'm surprised he didn't ask her to be his running mate since Obummer "dissed" her. LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   19:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: lodwick (#186)

They control the $$$ and the horses.

Correct...

BS Biden is a throw away, just another very old party hack.

Palin on the other hand is the youngest of the lot with a future.

If Obummer loses, he is finished done for.

Going to be interesting as to how this plays out. I do not look for Hillary to end her career in the Senate, she will fit in here somewhere, somehow.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   19:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Cynicom (#188)

The conserva-forum networks are alive with pro-Palin talk.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-29   19:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: James Deffenbach (#187)

I'm surprised he didn't ask her to be his running mate since Obummer "dissed" her. LOL!

I would not have been shocked had Hillary run with McKooK, nor would I be shocked McKooK tosses her name into the mix, she has nothing to lose.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   20:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: buckeye (#189)

buck...

Dont lose sight of the cue ball.

Palin HAD to be vetted by McKooK owners.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   20:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Cynicom (#191)

See my new thread and you'll know I haven't yet.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-29   20:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#158)

The ranks of "we" are getting pretty thin.

Wheat from the chaff, baby.

angle  posted on  2008-08-29   20:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: lodwick (#181)

I hope that she measures up to the very highest of our hopes.

No worries. They're gonna tell you everything you want to hear with a smidgin of controversy to make it seem plausible.

angle  posted on  2008-08-29   20:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: buckeye (#189)

The conserva-forum networks are alive with pro-Palin talk.

The "dream team" minus McCain.

angle  posted on  2008-08-29   20:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Original_Intent, all (#0)


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer

wudidiz  posted on  2008-08-29   20:53:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: christine (#120)

It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed.

my sentiments exactly

this thread is cracking me up!! part of it is the fact that it's very comical whenever anyone says 'we're all DOOMED!' or 'amurika is DOOMED!' LOL!

case in point:

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-08-29   20:57:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Cynicom (#180)

What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????

Mind you, not offer, but would ASK after the election, no commitment from himself or Hillary prior. For dirty politics that would put a slug on Congo Obummer and BS Biden.

that's an interesting hypothesis. i think whatever mcCain would gain with dems, he'd lose with repubs.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   21:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Artisan (#197)

'we're all DOOMED!' or 'amurika is DOOMED!' LOL!

truth hurts. what's there to do but laugh? ;)

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   21:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Artisan, christine, wudidiz (#197)

It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed.

my sentiments exactly

I can honestly say that I am immune to her allure. ;-)

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-08-30   1:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Original_Intent, Artisan, christine, wudidiz (#200)

I can honestly say that I am immune to her allure. ;-)

As am I. *snickering*


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-08-30   1:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: iconoclast (#49)

What an absolute hoot.

You wanna talk about "a leg up" take a gander at Poppy and the Admiral's sons. Without the accident of birth neither would have made it up to middle management at Dunkin Doughnuts.

Funny how none this kind of BS ever catches the attention of riding mower plutocrats.

Hey Junior and McCain have never hidden their family connections.

But your hero, Barrack Hussein Obama, is a different story all together.

He pretends he's a law professor genius who rose to the top - Columbia undergraduate degree ( snort - say Occidental anyone?) and Harvard Law Review ( say black minority quota anyone?) and Harvard Law School ( not in the top ten graduating class of Columbia - say AA anyone?) and got tenure at U of Chicago ( though none of the faculty there can recall ever being asked to vote on giving Barry tenure, he just "got it" - magically! tee hee) and Barrack refuses to allow his college transcripts to be released - golly gee one wonders why - and Barrack never does a photo opp with his WHITE maternal grandma who happens to have been a VP banker in Hawaii and who paid for Barry's prep school education there.

So McCain and Junior are unafraid to be linked to their families' connections but what gives about your hero and his false image? I guess you like dissembling empty suits - that must be it. Either that or you are a knee jerk Dem voter under all that pseudo Ron Paul rahrah and you are willing to over look even the most glaring flaws in a candidate who has a D after his name. March on.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-30   1:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: All (#200)


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer

wudidiz  posted on  2008-08-30   1:39:02 ET  (6 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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