Title: First Impressions of Palin [live from Ohio... it's Friday Afternoon!!!] Source:
TV URL Source:[None] Published:Aug 29, 2008 Author:TV Post Date:2008-08-29 12:18:42 by a vast rightwing conspirator Keywords:None Views:1888 Comments:247
The introduction is about to begin.
Let's hear first impressions from everyone as this is happening.
#180. To: lodwick, christine, James Deffenbach (#176)
Looking at this mess on a strictly backroom political affair....
What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????
Mind you, not offer, but would ASK after the election, no commitment from himself or Hillary prior. For dirty politics that would put a slug on Congo Obummer and BS Biden.
Thanks. Nice clip but I would like to know where she stands on issues like the damnable Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act just to name a couple of police state measures that McCain supports wholeheartedly. If I could ask her two or three questions I would know if she actually believes in that oath they are all required to take. I know McCain doesn't, Bush doesn't and Obama doesn't.
We should give it a break.
SP will be interviewed and grilled on all the questions that we've raised here.
I hope that she measures up to the very highest of our hopes.
You don't have to set aside your principles, loddy, to go to the prom--whether the guy/gal is cute/ugly or can dance/not dance. TO run as second fiddler with a guy that is as pro war/killing as you can get, believes every illegal alien has a right to be in this country at the local taxpayers' expense, yada yada, would mean that she has to l) agree with him OR 2) be a hypocrit by setting aside what she really believes in.
We don't need anymore hypocrits running the shop, either. :(
If she was so enamoured of ROn Paul and his positions, it would appear that #2 above is just as viable as #1......and I, for one, wouldn't consider voting for the person. Period.
There have to be some values/principles which cannot be set aside, IMO, cause if you don't stand for some thing, you will stand for anything.
This is now down to bare knuckles politicking as BOTH losers want to be President. Neither is in it to lose. McKooK is behind the black 8 ball so to speak, so what does he have to lose??? Nothing.
If he does not derail obummers train now there is no tomorrow for him.
The men in the backroom could care less which one is the "winner". They already own both horses.
#196. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Original_Intent, all (#0)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed.
my sentiments exactly
this thread is cracking me up!! part of it is the fact that it's very comical whenever anyone says 'we're all DOOMED!' or 'amurika is DOOMED!' LOL!
case in point:
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????
Mind you, not offer, but would ASK after the election, no commitment from himself or Hillary prior. For dirty politics that would put a slug on Congo Obummer and BS Biden.
that's an interesting hypothesis. i think whatever mcCain would gain with dems, he'd lose with repubs.
It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed.
my sentiments exactly
I can honestly say that I am immune to her allure. ;-)
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
You wanna talk about "a leg up" take a gander at Poppy and the Admiral's sons. Without the accident of birth neither would have made it up to middle management at Dunkin Doughnuts.
Funny how none this kind of BS ever catches the attention of riding mower plutocrats.
Hey Junior and McCain have never hidden their family connections.
But your hero, Barrack Hussein Obama, is a different story all together.
He pretends he's a law professor genius who rose to the top - Columbia undergraduate degree ( snort - say Occidental anyone?) and Harvard Law Review ( say black minority quota anyone?) and Harvard Law School ( not in the top ten graduating class of Columbia - say AA anyone?) and got tenure at U of Chicago ( though none of the faculty there can recall ever being asked to vote on giving Barry tenure, he just "got it" - magically! tee hee) and Barrack refuses to allow his college transcripts to be released - golly gee one wonders why - and Barrack never does a photo opp with his WHITE maternal grandma who happens to have been a VP banker in Hawaii and who paid for Barry's prep school education there.
So McCain and Junior are unafraid to be linked to their families' connections but what gives about your hero and his false image? I guess you like dissembling empty suits - that must be it. Either that or you are a knee jerk Dem voter under all that pseudo Ron Paul rahrah and you are willing to over look even the most glaring flaws in a candidate who has a D after his name. March on.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
scrapper.......try 'splaining that to all the rapt 'ears' of the sheeple == within 8 seconds, of course. Aint' gonna happen. Its a part of his CV that he was such and such, and beyond that, the eyes would glaze over. To them, it would show he has experience.
Now, if you could disprove that he was editor or president of anything, that might change the picture--but again, you only have 8 seconds to convince people.
You got me, dee. To expose Barrack Hussein Obama for the Affirmative Action empty head, empty suit he is would take me 80 seconds not 8 seconds. And his diehard fans like vast and iconoclast would cover their ears anyways so why bother.
swarthyguy: Palin was the head of the school Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
angle: That seals the deal.
Oh my, aren't we testy today...
Let's see...on the one hand is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, raised as a Muslim in his formative years, who jumps onto Christianity when he's older out of convenience - in his own words in his biography, see Barry was thinking like a politician even when he was a teen - because he would be viewed as a "black American" if he was a member of a Christian church.
And on the other hand we have Sarah Palin who has always been Christian and who takes her faith seriously not just as political asset/deficit like ahem Barry...
Who to choose who to choose? America is merely 75% Christian by faith and 2% Muslim by faith...who best reflects America? Why of course according to angle , it's thumbs up for Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. Ha!
I try to not waste my time with lesser arguments. Let me sum up: I see the 2 party system as a fraud perpetrated on the American citizens. The money in charge chooses the two candidates that the global elite can direct and the ignorant sheeple go vote for one of the two like it's a choice. Palin is one of them...corrupt, complicit and an insider.
When posters who I like (lod) go gaga over this pre-selected suit with all the right sound blurbs, I see how regular people get sucked up into the show and I'm gonna speak up.
You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people.
I might not have a solution to this crisis of exponentially increasing proportion, but I know enough that neither of these party hacks represent a solution. They represent more of what's wrong.
Palin is not an insider. At this time, she is a prop. And so is Biden, by the way and, I suspect he knows it and I have little doubt that she knows it too.
She is likely to become an insider and the process commenced probably shortly after she became gov'nor of Alaska. I see signs of her assimilation in her speech - paying her respects to Hillary and... Gerry Ferraro???
She was the mayor of Wasilla ( Pop. 9236 ) until 2002 when she was appointed chiarwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission by Murkowski. In 2006 she upsets Murkowski for Republican Governor Primary. In Alaska, you don't win without being an insider.
So, she's been a mayor of a town with less than 10,000 people, a chairwoman for 2 years and a governor for 2 years. And now she's a contender for the VP of the Republican party?
This year John McCain is reprising the Republican Party's quadrennial effort of trying to woo Jewish voters, a group that overwhelmingly supports the Democratic Party and which is currently backing Barack Obama by a 2-to-1 margin (though I'd suspect that estimation is a little low). But if the GOP were truly serious about this outreach, would they really have put someone who appears to be a disciple of Pat Buchanan -- Sarah Palin -- on their ticket for November.
The Nation's Chris Hayes scored a big scoop this morning, unearthing a report from 1999 of Palin's support of then-Independent Presidential candidate Buchanan. And per Ben Smith, Buchanan said today on MSNBC that Palin was "brigader [for his campaign] back in 1996." Take a look:
As Smith notes, Buchanan's statements and actions over the years have earned him his own page on the Anti-Defamation League's website, highlighting statements ranging from "Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory" from 1990 and "If you want to know ethnicity and power in the United States Senate, 13 members of the Senate are Jewish folks who are from 2 percent of the population. That is where real power is at..." from just last year.
And yet from multiple sources, both contemporaneous and more recent from those intimately involved, Palin appears to have been a long-time supporter of Buchanan. This is the way McCain and the Republicans expect to court Jewish voters (as well as the roughly 90 to 95 percent of Americans who are to the left of Buchanan)?
Alright, I must admit that I am unfamiliar with Alaska's political etiquette, I do notice that Alaska's population of about 650,000 (is this 1/4 of Brooklyn?) should offer many opportunities to anyone who wishes to seek a career as a state employee. A mayor of a town of 10,000 should be as big in Alaska as the mayor of a city of 5,000,000 on the mainland - do the math.
You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people.
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly. But when posters like you are grumpy and snarky and snide from the get go - you claimed at one point that you thought Palin was a Jewess (???) - I have to scratch my head and wonder why there's such long mopey faces in some quarters over her nomination - so she's a VP candidate, big deal, even if she and McCain go to the WH, as VP she has less power than she had as Governor - as for her being evil or an insider or whatever, at this point no one knows much about her so why soil yourself until you read more about her or hear her speak.
I don't like McCain or Obama so I'll not vote for either. Biden and Palin are irrelevant factors to my decision.