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Title: First Impressions of Palin [live from Ohio... it's Friday Afternoon!!!]
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Published: Aug 29, 2008
Author: TV
Post Date: 2008-08-29 12:18:42 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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The introduction is about to begin. Let's hear first impressions from everyone as this is happening.
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#194. To: lodwick (#181)
No worries. They're gonna tell you everything you want to hear with a smidgin of controversy to make it seem plausible.
The "dream team" minus McCain.
It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed. my sentiments exactly this thread is cracking me up!! part of it is the fact that it's very comical whenever anyone says 'we're all DOOMED!' or 'amurika is DOOMED!' LOL! case in point: MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." Mind you, not offer, but would ASK after the election, no commitment from himself or Hillary prior. For dirty politics that would put a slug on Congo Obummer and BS Biden. that's an interesting hypothesis. i think whatever mcCain would gain with dems, he'd lose with repubs.
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truth hurts. what's there to do but laugh? ;)
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my sentiments exactly I can honestly say that I am immune to her allure. ;-)
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
As am I. *snickering*
You wanna talk about "a leg up" take a gander at Poppy and the Admiral's sons. Without the accident of birth neither would have made it up to middle management at Dunkin Doughnuts. Funny how none this kind of BS ever catches the attention of riding mower plutocrats. Hey Junior and McCain have never hidden their family connections. But your hero, Barrack Hussein Obama, is a different story all together. He pretends he's a law professor genius who rose to the top - Columbia undergraduate degree ( snort - say Occidental anyone?) and Harvard Law Review ( say black minority quota anyone?) and Harvard Law School ( not in the top ten graduating class of Columbia - say AA anyone?) and got tenure at U of Chicago ( though none of the faculty there can recall ever being asked to vote on giving Barry tenure, he just "got it" - magically! tee hee) and Barrack refuses to allow his college transcripts to be released - golly gee one wonders why - and Barrack never does a photo opp with his WHITE maternal grandma who happens to have been a VP banker in Hawaii and who paid for Barry's prep school education there. So McCain and Junior are unafraid to be linked to their families' connections but what gives about your hero and his false image? I guess you like dissembling empty suits - that must be it. Either that or you are a knee jerk Dem voter under all that pseudo Ron Paul rahrah and you are willing to over look even the most glaring flaws in a candidate who has a D after his name. March on.
Now, if you could disprove that he was editor or president of anything, that might change the picture--but again, you only have 8 seconds to convince people. You got me, dee. To expose Barrack Hussein Obama for the Affirmative Action empty head, empty suit he is would take me 80 seconds not 8 seconds. And his diehard fans like vast and iconoclast would cover their ears anyways so why bother.
angle: That seals the deal. Oh my, aren't we testy today... Let's see...on the one hand is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, raised as a Muslim in his formative years, who jumps onto Christianity when he's older out of convenience - in his own words in his biography, see Barry was thinking like a politician even when he was a teen - because he would be viewed as a "black American" if he was a member of a Christian church. And on the other hand we have Sarah Palin who has always been Christian and who takes her faith seriously not just as political asset/deficit like ahem Barry... Who to choose who to choose? America is merely 75% Christian by faith and 2% Muslim by faith...who best reflects America? Why of course according to angle , it's thumbs up for Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. Ha!
Your best argument for McCain/Katherine Harris wannabe is that I'm an Obama supporter? I'm not, so you'll have to do better.
Oh let me guess...you're upset because you're an American patriot. Got it.
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I try to not waste my time with lesser arguments. Let me sum up: I see the 2 party system as a fraud perpetrated on the American citizens. The money in charge chooses the two candidates that the global elite can direct and the ignorant sheeple go vote for one of the two like it's a choice. Palin is one of them...corrupt, complicit and an insider. When posters who I like (lod) go gaga over this pre-selected suit with all the right sound blurbs, I see how regular people get sucked up into the show and I'm gonna speak up. You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people. I might not have a solution to this crisis of exponentially increasing proportion, but I know enough that neither of these party hacks represent a solution. They represent more of what's wrong.
Palin is not an insider. At this time, she is a prop. And so is Biden, by the way and, I suspect he knows it and I have little doubt that she knows it too. She is likely to become an insider and the process commenced probably shortly after she became gov'nor of Alaska. I see signs of her assimilation in her speech - paying her respects to Hillary and... Gerry Ferraro???
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
She was the mayor of Wasilla ( Pop. 9236 ) until 2002 when she was appointed chiarwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission by Murkowski. In 2006 she upsets Murkowski for Republican Governor Primary. In Alaska, you don't win without being an insider. So, she's been a mayor of a town with less than 10,000 people, a chairwoman for 2 years and a governor for 2 years. And now she's a contender for the VP of the Republican party?
This year John McCain is reprising the Republican Party's quadrennial effort of trying to woo Jewish voters, a group that overwhelmingly supports the Democratic Party and which is currently backing Barack Obama by a 2-to-1 margin (though I'd suspect that estimation is a little low). But if the GOP were truly serious about this outreach, would they really have put someone who appears to be a disciple of Pat Buchanan -- Sarah Palin -- on their ticket for November. The Nation's Chris Hayes scored a big scoop this morning, unearthing a report from 1999 of Palin's support of then-Independent Presidential candidate Buchanan. And per Ben Smith, Buchanan said today on MSNBC that Palin was "brigader [for his campaign] back in 1996." Take a look: As Smith notes, Buchanan's statements and actions over the years have earned him his own page on the Anti-Defamation League's website, highlighting statements ranging from "Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory" from 1990 and "If you want to know ethnicity and power in the United States Senate, 13 members of the Senate are Jewish folks who are from 2 percent of the population. That is where real power is at..." from just last year. And yet from multiple sources, both contemporaneous and more recent from those intimately involved, Palin appears to have been a long-time supporter of Buchanan. This is the way McCain and the Republicans expect to court Jewish voters (as well as the roughly 90 to 95 percent of Americans who are to the left of Buchanan)?
Alright, I must admit that I am unfamiliar with Alaska's political etiquette, I do notice that Alaska's population of about 650,000 (is this 1/4 of Brooklyn?) should offer many opportunities to anyone who wishes to seek a career as a state employee. A mayor of a town of 10,000 should be as big in Alaska as the mayor of a city of 5,000,000 on the mainland - do the math.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
The math is done by the global elite.
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly. But when posters like you are grumpy and snarky and snide from the get go - you claimed at one point that you thought Palin was a Jewess (???) - I have to scratch my head and wonder why there's such long mopey faces in some quarters over her nomination - so she's a VP candidate, big deal, even if she and McCain go to the WH, as VP she has less power than she had as Governor - as for her being evil or an insider or whatever, at this point no one knows much about her so why soil yourself until you read more about her or hear her speak. I don't like McCain or Obama so I'll not vote for either. Biden and Palin are irrelevant factors to my decision.
She's probably Irish.
Dude, posting pics like that is just not fair. :) How do you expect femenazis to compete with her?
God is always good!
You are exactly right. That's what I was thinking actually. Her coloring - very fair skin with dark hair - and her maiden name is Heath.
She is German, Irish and English just like me.
God is always good!
Her mother's surname is Sheeran, an Irish name.
Her agreeing to play ball for the McCain team should tell you enough about her - she's either stupid or evil. Or maybe she doesn't know McCain as much as McCain doesn't know her. Anyway, it's refreshing to see how enthusiastically the GOPs are playing the games of tokenism these days. I just heard on C-Span what was probably the first public use of "diversity" by a politician. It was Bush the poppy in 1988, as part of his stupid 'one thousand points of light' speech.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Paul cant win...Paul cant win... Divine revelation.
Here's something very interesting which I stumbled across in researching who Palin is, what makes her tick - according to a Catholic blogger who claims to know Palin personally for many years - when Palin ran for Governor, the GOP actually openly supported and even threw fund raisers for the Democrat candidate running against Palin. As a result, Palin had so little $ in her campaign fund that she had to be very frugal in how many ads she could afford to run. Interesting, yes? proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her.
Yeah, she has shown she is not afraid to take on the establishment. The more I hear about her the more I like her.
God is always good!
yes, indeed. good find, scrap. as an aside, i still have problems with Ron Paul's "I'm a republican and I will always be a republican." i wish he'd denounce that damn party.
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Fyi...something for you to think about since you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid - I think I covered your laundry list criticisms about Palin. You might want to pay particular attention to points #4 and #5 as listed below. proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her.
I think Dr. Paul is still hopeful that his GOP party of bygone years - before it was polluted and high-jacked by the RINO's and the neocons - will return. Dr. Paul is a GOP person - he's not a Dem, that's for sure, and I don't think he's a Libertarian or Greenie. I think he identifies strongly with what were once the principles of the GOP and that's why he continues to carry the R after his name.
I didn't suggest that Ms. Palin was an insider. On the contrary, I stated that, in my view, she is a prop for McCain's campaign - she is being used by McCain because McCain believes that he needs another woman to get some of Hillary's '18 million' - his advisers are probably watching too much cable television. To the extent that she agrees to play ball and allow herself to be used by the McCains as a prop, she is guilty. If she doesn't realize that she's being used as a prop, then maybe she's dumber than W. To clarify the 'insider' comment. I stated that she is in the process of being assimilated and she seems to be cooperating. Final observation: for her to call the VP job 'an opportunity' and 'a challenge' is, should I say, not proper. Let's all agree that the purpose of her being the VP candidate is not her personal growth or even that of destroying the imaginary glass ceiling.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Palin has expressed support for McCain's foreign policy agenda. That should be enough for anyone here to write her off immediately.
I agree with that statement. I have no reason to dislike her either. Maybe the time will come when I do but not now.
Just because you know the lady and have more than passing knowledge of her work does NOT mean that Vast sitting behind his puter does not know her better than you. If vast says she is evil and or stupid then he has to be right. Being a Cynic I will take your word for it.
And then there is the little matter of.......if she is so against all that 'evil' corruption, blah blah, that was permeating Alaska's political scene, why in the world would she align herself with one of the infamous Keating Five scoundrels? Could this mean there is ever the slighest possibility that 'corruption' or 'evil' is in the eye of the beholder--that perhaps she really doesn't believe she did anything wrong IF IN FACT she make calls, etc., regarding firing the state trooper. While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie. At least not in my book.
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At least not in my book. Agree. We'll just have to see how the 'CommissionerGate' matter is resolved. Most all govs at the highest levels have corruption and cronyism to greater, or lesser extent. And AK sounds pretty bad. Maybe that's why SP's approval ratings are 70-90 percent favorable from the populace.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI hope that she measures up to the very highest of our hopes.
#195. To: buckeye (#189)
The conserva-forum networks are alive with pro-Palin talk.
#196. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Original_Intent, all (#0)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#197. To: christine (#120)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#198. To: Cynicom (#180)
What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????
#199. To: Artisan (#197)
'we're all DOOMED!' or 'amurika is DOOMED!' LOL!
#200. To: Artisan, christine, wudidiz (#197)
It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed.
#201. To: Original_Intent, Artisan, christine, wudidiz (#200)
I can honestly say that I am immune to her allure. ;-)
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#202. To: iconoclast (#49)
What an absolute hoot.
#203. To: All (#200)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#204. To: rowdee (#166)
scrapper.......try 'splaining that to all the rapt 'ears' of the sheeple == within 8 seconds, of course. Aint' gonna happen. Its a part of his CV that he was such and such, and beyond that, the eyes would glaze over. To them, it would show he has experience.
#205. To: angle, swarthyguy (#56)
swarthyguy: Palin was the head of the school Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
#206. To: scrapper2 (#205)
#207. To: angle (#206)
Your best argument for McCain/Katherine Harris wannabe is that I'm an Obama supporter? I'm not, so you'll have to do better.
#208. To: scrapper2 (#207)
#209. To: scrapper2, lodwick (#207)
#210. To: angle (#209)
(Edited)
#211. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#210)
#212. To: angle (#211)
Palin's Buchanan Problem
#213. To: angle (#211)
(Edited)
#214. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#213)
#215. To: angle (#209)
You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people.
#216. To: scrapper2 (#215)
#217. To: wudidiz (#203)
#218. To: buckeye (#216)
She's probably Irish.
#219. To: buckeye (#216)
She's probably Irish.
#220. To: scrapper2, RickyJ (#218)
#221. To: scrapper2 (#215)
(Edited)
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly.
#222. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#221)
#223. To: buckeye, angle, christine, rowdee, Ricky J, lodwick, wudidiz, Rupert_Pupkin, All (#216)
#224. To: scrapper2 (#223)
Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State.
#225. To: scrapper2, Cynicom, angle, Rupert_Pupkin, Esso, Jethro Tull, lodwick, all (#223)
when Palin ran for Governor, the GOP actually openly supported and even threw fund raisers for the Democrat candidate running against Palin. As a result, Palin had so little $ in her campaign fund that she had to be very frugal in how many ads she could afford to run. Interesting, yes?
#226. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#223)
#227. To: christine (#225)
as an aside, i still have problems with Ron Paul's "I'm a republican and I will always be a republican." i wish he'd denounce that damn party.
#228. To: scrapper2 (#226)
#229. To: scrapper2 (#226)
Fyi...something for you to think about since you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid - I think I covered your laundry list criticisms about Palin
#230. To: scrapper2 (#215)
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly
#231. To: scrapper2, a vast rightwing conspirator (#226)
you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid -
#232. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#229)
#233. To: christine (#225)
yes, indeed. good find, scrap.
#234. To: rowdee (#232)
While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie.
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