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Title: First Impressions of Palin [live from Ohio... it's Friday Afternoon!!!]
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Published: Aug 29, 2008
Author: TV
Post Date: 2008-08-29 12:18:42 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Comments: 247
The introduction is about to begin. Let's hear first impressions from everyone as this is happening.
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#1. To: All (#0)
Well... McCain just finished talking. Anyone? Anyone? McCain presented her qualifications as follows: - she's got executive experience
Oh... boy!!!! She just called her being picked "an opportunity". I hope we're not being introduced to the next Harriette Meyers.
LOL - she just called McCain "my running mate".
LOLOLOL!!!! :))))))) She's honoring the 'achievements' of Jerry Ferraro (she and Mondale won ONE state) and Hilly Clinton who just lost her nomination race.
I love to see people like you going nuts realizing your boy just lost.
If vast goes orgasmic , sound the alarm. I cannot believe that people still watch the political drivel on TV.
Andrea Mitchel just woke up from her feministic reverie... she's wondering "has the McCain campaign just conceded the 'experience' argument?" Remember the McCain's commercial "but is he ready to lead???". Well...
Well duh, Andrea. Palin is a GOVERNOR - ie she is a manager, and a gorgeous one at that unlike Put a bag on her Head Andrea. McCain picked Palin to cover his own Senator for Life weakness ie. lack of managerial experience. When McCain criticized Obama for lack of experience, he was criticizing Obama for being inexperienced in federal politics as compared to himself - he was comparing his Senatorial experience to Obama's Senatorial experience. But I think you knew that, didn't you, vast? McCain and Obama are both anti-America. But in terms of chess, McCain's the better player.
The 'experience' thing was McCain's strongest line of attack. I bet you anything that yesterday was the last day you could watch an 'experience' ad from the McCains. What is McCain's left with now? Explaining that he's not Bush? Attacking Obama for not being Hillary? He's done because he's got nothing to talk about between now and November other than "Look whom I picked. Isn't she lovely?"
Yes, but if and when the Obie crowd points out Palin's inexperience, it backfires on him by highlighting Obie's unbearable lightness of experience. Palin 2 years Gov Obie 2 years Senator..... On the sociocultural front, she's a home run, what with hubbie having a real job of commercial Alyeska fisherman (a brass balls type of trade), - not a lawyer whitecollartype, and a bevy of kids, one deploying to Irak. She's easier on the eyes and ears than Biden. Not a traditional feminist, but the epitomy of a postfeminist feminist encompassing political reform, mother, with a working stiff spouse, and being Alaskan, harking back to a frontier woman image.
The Obies don't have to point to her inexperience, unless the McCains are stupid enough to ever mention it again. The damage done to the McCains is that it effectively removed their most compelling anti-Obama argument from their arsenal.
Well, at least you agree on the unbearable lightness of Obie Giving you the point, Palin brings a buzz to the ticket as a conservative female governor of a western state.
That seals the deal.
angle: That seals the deal. Oh my, aren't we testy today... Let's see...on the one hand is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, raised as a Muslim in his formative years, who jumps onto Christianity when he's older out of convenience - in his own words in his biography, see Barry was thinking like a politician even when he was a teen - because he would be viewed as a "black American" if he was a member of a Christian church. And on the other hand we have Sarah Palin who has always been Christian and who takes her faith seriously not just as political asset/deficit like ahem Barry... Who to choose who to choose? America is merely 75% Christian by faith and 2% Muslim by faith...who best reflects America? Why of course according to angle , it's thumbs up for Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. Ha!
Your best argument for McCain/Katherine Harris wannabe is that I'm an Obama supporter? I'm not, so you'll have to do better.
Oh let me guess...you're upset because you're an American patriot. Got it.
I try to not waste my time with lesser arguments. Let me sum up: I see the 2 party system as a fraud perpetrated on the American citizens. The money in charge chooses the two candidates that the global elite can direct and the ignorant sheeple go vote for one of the two like it's a choice. Palin is one of them...corrupt, complicit and an insider. When posters who I like (lod) go gaga over this pre-selected suit with all the right sound blurbs, I see how regular people get sucked up into the show and I'm gonna speak up. You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people. I might not have a solution to this crisis of exponentially increasing proportion, but I know enough that neither of these party hacks represent a solution. They represent more of what's wrong.
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly. But when posters like you are grumpy and snarky and snide from the get go - you claimed at one point that you thought Palin was a Jewess (???) - I have to scratch my head and wonder why there's such long mopey faces in some quarters over her nomination - so she's a VP candidate, big deal, even if she and McCain go to the WH, as VP she has less power than she had as Governor - as for her being evil or an insider or whatever, at this point no one knows much about her so why soil yourself until you read more about her or hear her speak. I don't like McCain or Obama so I'll not vote for either. Biden and Palin are irrelevant factors to my decision.
She's probably Irish.
Here's something very interesting which I stumbled across in researching who Palin is, what makes her tick - according to a Catholic blogger who claims to know Palin personally for many years - when Palin ran for Governor, the GOP actually openly supported and even threw fund raisers for the Democrat candidate running against Palin. As a result, Palin had so little $ in her campaign fund that she had to be very frugal in how many ads she could afford to run. Interesting, yes? proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her.
Fyi...something for you to think about since you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid - I think I covered your laundry list criticisms about Palin. You might want to pay particular attention to points #4 and #5 as listed below. proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her.
Palin has expressed support for McCain's foreign policy agenda. That should be enough for anyone here to write her off immediately.
And then there is the little matter of.......if she is so against all that 'evil' corruption, blah blah, that was permeating Alaska's political scene, why in the world would she align herself with one of the infamous Keating Five scoundrels? Could this mean there is ever the slighest possibility that 'corruption' or 'evil' is in the eye of the beholder--that perhaps she really doesn't believe she did anything wrong IF IN FACT she make calls, etc., regarding firing the state trooper. While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie. At least not in my book.
a. Here's an article from an Alaska newspaper - middle of the road perspective - that gives a bit of an overview about state trooper Wooten and the Sarah Palin controversy. www.newsminer.com/news/20...raises-conduct-questions/ "Scrutiny of Wooten raises conduct questions" 07/28/08 b. Here's something from the Wash Post - left wing MSM perspective www.washingtonpost.com/wp...598.html?nav=rss_politics "Palin Focus of Probe In Police Chief's Firing" 08/30/08 c. Here's a timeline of the events along with various embedded links to outside sources - right wing perspective www.floppingaces.net/2008...distortions-to-the-truth/ "Palin’s Trooper’Gate: Beating MSM distortions to the truth" 08/29/08 ***Take your pick which perspective tells the full story.****
Am reading each link.......and will post a comment probably regarding each, individually. The newsminer link: Trooper married and divorced 4x and he is only 35 years old. Holy batsheet! Factor that in with all the other little 'problems' he has, like drinking in squad car, speeding tickets, threatening to put some lead into his FIL if he helps his daughter get an attorney for a divorce, and tasering his kid......sounds like she should have stepped in and demanded the guy get axed before the state of AK has to paya bigtime when the guy goes 'postal' and does some really bad sheet! On to the next one......
Exactly my impression of the situation. Wondering if this rogue cop served in Desert Storm...
The article says he was in the air force; and further that he was on what would generally be called a 'swat' team==at least for some time- up in AK. Tell ya what, I'm not particularly interested in having a cop/police/whatever that is fresh out of or a recent retiree of the military. Military service used to mean something special to me.......now I just essentially see them as another life form of the BAFT and FBI and CIA lying murderers, thieves, and whatnot.
#243. To: rowdee (#242)
Things have done a 180 from when we were growing up.
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- she's got kids
- she is or was a union member and so is her hubby
- she's exactly what she needs
- she's exactly what the country needs
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#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)
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#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)
Andrea Mitchel just woke up from her feministic reverie... she's wondering "has the McCain campaign just conceded the 'experience' argument?"
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#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#26)
most compelling anti-Obama argument
#56. To: swarthyguy (#37)
Palin was the head of the school Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
#205. To: angle, swarthyguy (#56)
swarthyguy: Palin was the head of the school Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
#206. To: scrapper2 (#205)
#207. To: angle (#206)
Your best argument for McCain/Katherine Harris wannabe is that I'm an Obama supporter? I'm not, so you'll have to do better.
#209. To: scrapper2, lodwick (#207)
#215. To: angle (#209)
You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people.
#216. To: scrapper2 (#215)
#223. To: buckeye, angle, christine, rowdee, Ricky J, lodwick, wudidiz, Rupert_Pupkin, All (#216)
#226. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#223)
#229. To: scrapper2 (#226)
Fyi...something for you to think about since you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid - I think I covered your laundry list criticisms about Palin
#232. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#229)
#235. To: rowdee, lodwick, christine (#232)
Could this mean there is ever the slighest possibility that 'corruption' or 'evil' is in the eye of the beholder--that perhaps she really doesn't believe she did anything wrong IF IN FACT she make calls, etc., regarding firing the state trooper. While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie.
#237. To: scrapper2 (#235)
#239. To: rowdee. all (#237)
sounds like she should have stepped in and demanded the guy get axed before the state of AK has to paya bigtime when the guy goes 'postal' and does some really bad sheet!
#242. To: lodwick (#239)
Replies to Comment # 242. Military service used to mean something special to me.......now I just essentially see them as another life form of the BAFT and FBI and CIA lying murderers, thieves, and whatnot.
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