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Title: First Impressions of Palin [live from Ohio... it's Friday Afternoon!!!]
Source: TV
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 29, 2008
Author: TV
Post Date: 2008-08-29 12:18:42 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 6953
Comments: 247

The introduction is about to begin.

Let's hear first impressions from everyone as this is happening.

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#1. To: All (#0)


Palin and running mate

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   12:21:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1) (Edited)

Well... McCain just finished talking. Anyone? Anyone?

McCain presented her qualifications as follows:

- she's got executive experience
- she's got kids
- she is or was a union member and so is her hubby
- she's exactly what she needs
- she's exactly what the country needs

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   12:28:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2) (Edited)

Oh... boy!!!! She just called her being picked "an opportunity". I hope we're not being introduced to the next Harriette Meyers.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   12:31:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

LOL - she just called McCain "my running mate".

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   12:40:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

LOLOLOL!!!! :)))))))

She's honoring the 'achievements' of Jerry Ferraro (she and Mondale won ONE state) and Hilly Clinton who just lost her nomination race.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   12:44:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)

I love to see people like you going nuts realizing your boy just lost.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-08-29   12:48:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: RickyJ (#6)

If vast goes orgasmic , sound the alarm.

I cannot believe that people still watch the political drivel on TV.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   12:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#7) (Edited)

Andrea Mitchel just woke up from her feministic reverie... she's wondering "has the McCain campaign just conceded the 'experience' argument?"

Remember the McCain's commercial "but is he ready to lead???". Well...

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   12:56:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)

Andrea Mitchel just woke up from her feministic reverie... she's wondering "has the McCain campaign just conceded the 'experience' argument?"

Well duh, Andrea. Palin is a GOVERNOR - ie she is a manager, and a gorgeous one at that unlike Put a bag on her Head Andrea. McCain picked Palin to cover his own Senator for Life weakness ie. lack of managerial experience. When McCain criticized Obama for lack of experience, he was criticizing Obama for being inexperienced in federal politics as compared to himself - he was comparing his Senatorial experience to Obama's Senatorial experience.

But I think you knew that, didn't you, vast?

McCain and Obama are both anti-America. But in terms of chess, McCain's the better player.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-29   13:05:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: scrapper2 (#10)

The 'experience' thing was McCain's strongest line of attack. I bet you anything that yesterday was the last day you could watch an 'experience' ad from the McCains. What is McCain's left with now? Explaining that he's not Bush? Attacking Obama for not being Hillary?

He's done because he's got nothing to talk about between now and November other than "Look whom I picked. Isn't she lovely?"

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   13:11:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)

The 'experience' thing was McCain's strongest line of attack.

You bet it was - Obama is a brand new federal Senator. McCain is a Senator for Life. Attacking Obama on his lack of experience on Capitol Hill was a smart plan. Otherwise what was McCain going to attack Obama on - his overuse of the word "change" 3 Million times? Lack of experience was a solid fact.

But neither McCain nor Obama have managerial experience. That was McCain's weakness too and he needed to cover his hind quarters on that. McCain's other obvious weakness was also shared with Obama - being a leftie socially. Palin covers McCain in that gaping hole. McCain's other weakness was age. Palin covers that issue.

McCain choosing Palin was more to cover his obvious weaknesses so he'd appeal more to the evangelicals who he can't afford to have stay home as well as his desire to appeal to independents and moderate family-oriented Dems and to politically uninformed males and females who will vote on gender for opposite reasons. Palin looks like the girl next door. She and her young family bring youth and energy to the ticket. And more importantly, Americans can and will identify with Palin but not with Michelle Obama. That contrast alone will harm Big O even more.

McCain pulls ahead 5 points with Palin. Obama stays where he was before with Biden, no bounce whatsoever.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-29   13:23:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: scrapper2 (#22)

From wiki......with a lot of 'junk' just cut out to make this as short as possible......as it regards 'lack of experience':

"After four years in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side. [11][13] During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.[14]

Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute. WHOA! HERE BE A WHOLE NEW CAN OF WORMS MAYBE: GAMALIEL WAS THE JEWISH RABBI/SCRIBE THAT PAUL, THE APOSTLE TRAINED UNDER.[15] Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 and at the end of his first year was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition.[17] In his second year he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in- chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors.[18]

Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[21][22]

In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[11][24]

Obama was a founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife, Michelle, became the founding executive director of Public Allies Chicago in early 1993.[11][25]

He served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund Obama's DCP, from 1993–2002, and served on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation from 1994–2002.[11]

Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.[11] He also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center".

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-29   16:41:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#97. To: rowdee (#95)

William Ayers served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-08-29 16:45:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: rowdee (#95)

Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 and at the end of his first year was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition.[17] In his second year he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in- chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors.[18]

Well I can tell you right off the bat that this wiki stuff about Obama's Law Review appointment is garbage and omits some raaaather notable details.

Historically Harvard Law Review appointments were based on grades and an essay BUT Harvard then went into Affirmative Action whole hog and established a minority quota for Law Review candidates and Obama was one of the first blacks to take advantage of this minority quota set-side Law Review appointments.

Then he got elected President based on his campaign politica skills - he was the only black in the race and as you can imagine in the early 70's when white guilt and East Coast limousine liberalism were starting to show their prominence on elite campuses, Obama made good use of the golden opportunity that presented itself.

query.nytimes.com/gst/ful...631F935A35751C0A966958260

"First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review" 02/06/1990

Some cut and paste:

...Change in Selection System

Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review's 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said.

Until the 1970's the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.

That system came under attack in the 1970's and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review.

Harvard, like a number of other top law schools, no longer ranks its law students for any purpose including a guide to recruiters.

Blacks at Harvard: New High

Black enrollment at Harvard Law School, after a dip in the mid-1980's, has reached a record high this year, said Joyce Curll, the director of admissions. Of the 1,620 students in the three-year school, 12.5 percent this year are blacks, she said, and 14 percent of the first-year class are black. Nationwide enrollment by blacks in undergraduate colleges has dropped in recent years.

Mr. Obama succeeds Peter Yu, a first-generation Chinese-American, as president of The Law Review. After graduation, Mr. Yu plans to serve as a clerk for Chief Judge Patricia Wald on the of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.

Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama's election ''was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.'' ...

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-29 18:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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