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Title: First Impressions of Palin [live from Ohio... it's Friday Afternoon!!!]
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Published: Aug 29, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-08-29 12:18:42 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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The introduction is about to begin. Let's hear first impressions from everyone as this is happening.
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Well... McCain just finished talking. Anyone? Anyone? McCain presented her qualifications as follows: - she's got executive experience Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Oh... boy!!!! She just called her being picked "an opportunity". I hope we're not being introduced to the next Harriette Meyers.
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LOL - she just called McCain "my running mate".
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LOLOLOL!!!! :))))))) She's honoring the 'achievements' of Jerry Ferraro (she and Mondale won ONE state) and Hilly Clinton who just lost her nomination race.
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I love to see people like you going nuts realizing your boy just lost.
God is always good!
If vast goes orgasmic , sound the alarm. I cannot believe that people still watch the political drivel on TV.
You're delusional, my friend. McCain made a terrible mistake. Between his singing 'Bomb, bomb Iran' and his picking a complete unknown AFTER his campaign and commercials kept bitching about 'experience' for the past half year... he's done. Think of Reagan/Bush vs. Mondale/Ferraro. How many states did Ferraro deliver to Mondale? I do remember Mondale winning Minnesota, because he was from there. And Ferraro gave him...?
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Andrea Mitchel just woke up from her feministic reverie... she's wondering "has the McCain campaign just conceded the 'experience' argument?" Remember the McCain's commercial "but is he ready to lead???". Well...
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Well duh, Andrea. Palin is a GOVERNOR - ie she is a manager, and a gorgeous one at that unlike Put a bag on her Head Andrea. McCain picked Palin to cover his own Senator for Life weakness ie. lack of managerial experience. When McCain criticized Obama for lack of experience, he was criticizing Obama for being inexperienced in federal politics as compared to himself - he was comparing his Senatorial experience to Obama's Senatorial experience. But I think you knew that, didn't you, vast? McCain and Obama are both anti-America. But in terms of chess, McCain's the better player.
Do you really watch this political drivel on TV???????????? Its fodder for the sheep Vast, not for any thinking person.
The 'experience' thing was McCain's strongest line of attack. I bet you anything that yesterday was the last day you could watch an 'experience' ad from the McCains. What is McCain's left with now? Explaining that he's not Bush? Attacking Obama for not being Hillary? He's done because he's got nothing to talk about between now and November other than "Look whom I picked. Isn't she lovely?"
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If you really want to know the details, I didn't exactly 'watch' this. I was on the toilet but the TV was on. I am watching now because I'm still on a break before I go back to my study.
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Palin really is a good pick. She has more executive experience than Obama and Biden put together. And she is pro life. She backs up the pro life by not aborting her baby with Down Syndrome. McCain has done well. Hopefully, she can succeed to the presidency in the next year.
Vast... Political pap, pablum and poop for the gullible and naive. Barnum and Bailey three ring circus, all show and no substance.
Even though she's a not very distant relative family loyalty is one thing but I would not vote for McNutz even with a relative on the ticket. She is a decent Woman and associating with these kinds of criminals would not be good thing for her morals.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Sarah is definitely the hottest candidate, ever, for V.P. Google Images showed her on the cover of Vogue magazine.
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We shall see. At this time, I see an Obama landslide not unlike Reagan's in 1984.
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OI... Doesnt the red blooded American part of you have a voice???? Forget the politics.
Someone said that she won some beauty contests. I suppose that helps with her foreign policy credentials because, without a doubt, she was all for promoting 'world peace' and ending 'world hunger' at the time.
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Yes, but if and when the Obie crowd points out Palin's inexperience, it backfires on him by highlighting Obie's unbearable lightness of experience. Palin 2 years Gov Obie 2 years Senator..... On the sociocultural front, she's a home run, what with hubbie having a real job of commercial Alyeska fisherman (a brass balls type of trade), - not a lawyer whitecollartype, and a bevy of kids, one deploying to Irak. She's easier on the eyes and ears than Biden. Not a traditional feminist, but the epitomy of a postfeminist feminist encompassing political reform, mother, with a working stiff spouse, and being Alaskan, harking back to a frontier woman image.
You bet it was - Obama is a brand new federal Senator. McCain is a Senator for Life. Attacking Obama on his lack of experience on Capitol Hill was a smart plan. Otherwise what was McCain going to attack Obama on - his overuse of the word "change" 3 Million times? Lack of experience was a solid fact. But neither McCain nor Obama have managerial experience. That was McCain's weakness too and he needed to cover his hind quarters on that. McCain's other obvious weakness was also shared with Obama - being a leftie socially. Palin covers McCain in that gaping hole. McCain's other weakness was age. Palin covers that issue. McCain choosing Palin was more to cover his obvious weaknesses so he'd appeal more to the evangelicals who he can't afford to have stay home as well as his desire to appeal to independents and moderate family-oriented Dems and to politically uninformed males and females who will vote on gender for opposite reasons. Palin looks like the girl next door. She and her young family bring youth and energy to the ticket. And more importantly, Americans can and will identify with Palin but not with Michelle Obama. That contrast alone will harm Big O even more. McCain pulls ahead 5 points with Palin. Obama stays where he was before with Biden, no bounce whatsoever.
Concur. She is a hottie.
I heard McCain was going to announce his VP this morning so i monitored the radio news< & turned on the Tv for the first time in months just to watch this. Palin, married to a union fisherman, 5 kids, PTA, governor, pro life, NRA, seems like a cute lil slice of Americana. Until she mentioned preventing Iran from 'getting nukes', (a neocon talking point) she on the face of it, (if one to fall for the bullshit theatre we call elections, that is) , seemed like a perfectly nice broad. Of course i dont for a minute think she is, or else mccain wouldnt have picked her. I'm sure pundits will dig up all sorts of skeletons on her within minutes. it is kind of funny though, that someone who watched footloose in high school could be our veep. has she ever been to bohemian grove? ;-/
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." Doesnt the red blooded American part of you have a voice???? Forget the politics. I'm not thinking about my politics per se - I am thinking about my loyalty to the America I believe in and support. McNutz is a criminal psychotic and even though Sarah is family I WILL NOT vote for McNutz period - not because of political affiliation but because I want the best for my country and its people. If he were to win I would just hope that he dies quickly and she takes over - that would be a good turn of events.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
The Obies don't have to point to her inexperience, unless the McCains are stupid enough to ever mention it again. The damage done to the McCains is that it effectively removed their most compelling anti-Obama argument from their arsenal.
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Obummer dragging Biden along with him is like dragging a bag of dirty underwear along.
Are you sh!tt!ing me? you're related to this broad for reals?
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." I do not call Biden a plus for Obama. He picked Biden because the McCains were screaming 'inexperience'. Now, the McCains cut the branch from under their feet. Obama is left with Biden - and I doubt you're going to see them together often - while McCain is made to look like a dying granny AND he can't brag about his experience and seasoning no more. Overall, it's a McCain loss.
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Yes.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
oh man, you've got to do some sort of writeup on this. Just think of the play it would get. PALIN FAMILY MEMBER IS 9/11 TRUTHER, SAYS MCCAIN IS CRIMINAL PSYCHOTIC PLEASE DO IT!!! ;-)
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." A nation of idiots, ruled by tyrants.
Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.[33]
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Palin is considered to have similar policy positions to John McCain in most respects. One major exception is drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR), which Palin strongly supports and McCain has opposed. Palin is expected to try to convince McCain to change his position on ANWR drilling.[57] She has also praised Obama's energy plan over the plan proposed by McCain.[58]In a July interview on CNBC, Palin expressed that she couldn't comment on the possibility of a vice presidential nomination until someone explained to her what the position entailed. She also wanted to "make sure that that V.P. slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans"[59]
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Overall, it's a McCain loss. Hissy fit, hissy fit - buy your tickets now to watch the spectacle. It has been so funny, reading the 2 of you sputtering and fussing as soon as Palin's name was reported. This is what happens when you bet on an Affirmative Action baby. He and and his wife got help and a leg up all the way through life until now when they're on the spot and they are forced to show their true stuff. Ha! And boy oh boy do we see their stuff in blazing LCD screen colors. When they speak and when they do their own thinking and when they make their own choices - well woeisme - Obama and his Mama fail and fail mightily - as a result Michelle now walks around with duct tape over her mouth and Obama now has Plagiarist Joe tied to his hip.
Tell that to her daughters, Hermione and Glinda.
Well, at least you agree on the unbearable lightness of Obie Giving you the point, Palin brings a buzz to the ticket as a conservative female governor of a western state.
'nuff said.
I've been predicting for many months that Obama was going to pick a very white boy and McCain was going to pick a woman. I was wrong on the identities. I thought Obama's choice was going to be Webb and McCain's was going to be Condi. So, I was wrong on the details but on the spot on the general principles. I am more confident that McCain is going to lose now than I was yesterday.
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And your point is what exactly???? that Palin is respectful of Alaska's constitution and does not honor unconstitutional legislation?
Ha haha haaaaaaa
Are you saying that not vetoing anti-homo legislation would have been illegal? I don't get YOUR point.
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They're abandoning the ship to the Obama nation.
ie, credentials to be President of this country? Well then, I nominate Joni Mitchell who gave her child up for adoption when she couldn't care for her. "...and we've got to get ourselves back to the Garden."
I detect drool on the keyboeard.
After reading her bio, I don't think McKook could have made a better selection. She is beautiful, smart, talented, honest, a Christian, and someone who would restore some honor to the office of v.p. Lord knows it needs it.
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I did not read any of your predictions as you describe them today. Whatever. Obama would never pick Webb - come on - Webb was 10 times smarter and that much less Marxist than Obama. Obama could not tolerate such a reminder of his weaknesses by picking Webb. Biden does not threaten or outshine Obama so from Barack's perspective, Biden is a safe bet. Plus Biden is a bigtime war monger for Izzy, solidifying all those Muslim-uneasy, black-leery Jewish votes in Florida and Ohio etc.
So, you're all in McCain now?
What an absolute hoot. You wanna talk about "a leg up" take a gander at Poppy and the Admiral's sons. Without the accident of birth neither would have made it up to middle management at Dunkin Doughnuts. Funny how none this kind of BS ever catches the attention of riding mower plutocrats.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Plus, Webb backed out as soon as Obie was the nominee. Gee, what'd he see....
Sure, for months, went through all this a while back. He married a beer heiress, that's good enough for me.
The 'drool factor' cannot be ignored in this election.
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throw up
Must have missed that. Ping to JD...he almost ripped my head off for suggesting there were McCain afficionados at 4UM.
That would fulfill the prediction of all the psychics who saw a woman, presumably Hillary! in the WH, along with that JohnTeeter prediction, the alleged timetraveler dude, FWIW.
That seals the deal.
May be more accurate to make that singular :>>
Okay, forget study. I'm going for my 102 laps now. Do page me if anything interesting happens while I'm in the nude and wet.
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Don't choke on the kool-aid, lod. Pinging JD.
More silliness. Bet your bottom dollar Webb told Obama early on that he could accomplish more in the Senate (with which I thoroughly agree). Jim Webb woulda been my pick. Obama too would have loved it. Whatever weaknesses you may perceive in Obie, lack of confidence ain't one.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
She's a better looking woman than most contemporary Hollywood Celebs. How long until I see someone on Boston TV slyly hinting that's she's too pretty, using the old sexist argument about the incompatability of beauty and brains......and that someone on TV will be prolly be a woman from the Boston area!
Yeah, he exceeded every bar stoolers dream of marrying a nymphomaniac that owns a liquor store. He even got a hundred million thrown in and dumped a crippled wife in the bargain.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsOJStsGB5U&feature=related There is bombshell in the commissioner controversy: after weeks of denying she, or anyone from her office, pressured former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan to fire state trooper Michael Wooten, Wednesday, Governor Sarah Palin had to backtrack
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." She seems like a 'real' person who has succeeded at everything she's attempted and who has earned everything by her own abilities, personality, and skills. I'll be cutting up the McCain/Palin signs and reversing the order so no one is confused about who I'm really voting for.
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http://www.adn.com/iraq/story/220586.html Palin's son leaves for Army boot camp TRACK: Governor supports enlistment "for the right reasons." By STEVE QUINN The Associated Press Published: September 19th, 2007 06:57 AM Last Modified: September 19th, 2007 05:47 PM JUNEAU -- Gov. Sarah Palin's son, Track, left on Tuesday for infantry boot camp in Fort Benning, Ga. The 18-year-old enlisted last week on the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Track is the oldest of Palin's four children and her only son. "I support my son's independence, and I am proud of his decision because he made it for the right reasons -- to serve his country," Palin said. In July, Palin went to Kuwait where she visited the Alaska Army National Guard's 3rd Battalion, 297th Infantry, a unit that is made up of about 575 Alaska men and women. She said she wanted an up-close look at the sacrifices made by Alaska-based troops in the Middle East so she accepted the offer of a two-day tour sponsored by the U.S. Department of Defense. Ultimately, it may have been a closer look at what awaits Track. Palin said she has come to terms with the idea that Track could be deployed next year to Iraq, Kuwait or Afghanistan, where thousands of U.S. troops are based. Last week President Bush approved a gradual reduction of U.S. forces, which stand at the highest level of the war, about 168,000 troops. "With this quasi draw down, there may be shorter deployments, which is encouraging for Track; in fact, that's encouraging for all of our troops," Palin said. "But more likely than not, Track will end up in the Middle East." Since her son enlisted, Palin said, she has received several e-mails from women whose sons or daughters have either enlisted or are serving overseas. ADVERTISEMENT While proud of their children's decision to enlist, they have not lost sight of the prospects of losing a loved one in the war. "I certainly have thought about it; the mixed emotions we all feel will be something that binds us together," Palin said. "But we don't regret that our son or daughter has made this decision." Track Palin joins Wasilla High classmate John Bates at Fort Benning. The Palin family threw the teens a party on Sunday evening. Palin said the party was not a farewell, but a thank you for the young men's commitment to serve. "We want the boys to know that we support them and we've got their backs," Palin said.
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." She is beautiful, smart, talented, honest, a Christian, and someone who would restore some honor to the office of v.p. Lord knows it needs it. I was at the event. She seems like a nice woman. Very pretty. I have some close up photos I will be sharing later. 10ft from her. Farther from McCain.
Palin has since given birth to a second son, who has Down's. She had amnio and knew that her fetus was affected with Down's but chose not to abort.
Very nicely done - looking forward to seeing them.
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She is beautiful, smart, talented, honest, a Christian, and someone who would restore some honor to the office of v.p. Lord knows it needs it. Also as swarthy pointed out - and from the perspective of McCain's campaign management - Palin's husband is a fisherman and union activist, so Palin on McCain's ticket may eat into Obama's union bloc voter base.
You are the one that told me that I should re arrange my sock drawer instead of going though. :)
I think she's gonna shine in the debates with Biden. Wasn't going to watch her speech, expected boilerplate, but did and came away impressed, she is a very, very good speaker. Obie should be happy he doesn't have to debate her.
Public Safety Commissioner dismissal controversy Governor Palin is currently under investigation by an independent investigator hired by a legislative panel to determine if she abused her power when firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. [47][48] On July 11, 2008, Palin dismissed Walter Monegan as Commissioner of Public Safety and instead offered him a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he subsequently turned down.[49][50] The Commisioner serves at the will of the governor, so her right to fire him is not in dispute; but Monegan alleged shortly after his dismissal that it may have been partly due to his reluctance to fire an Alaska State Trooper, Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann.[51] In 2006, before Palin was governor, Wooten was briefly suspended for ten days for threatening to kill McCann's (and Palin's) father, tasering his 11-year-old stepson (at the stepson's request), and violating game laws. After a union protest, the suspension was reduced to five days.[52] Palin replaced Monegan with Chuck Kopp, who had previously been removed from supervision of an employee he had allegedly sexually harassed. [53] Palin knew of Kopp's alleged sexual harassment before she appointed Kopp. [54] Palin asserted that her dismissal of Monegan was unrelated to the fact that he had not fired Wooten, and asserts that Monegan was instead dismissed for not adequately filling state trooper vacancies, and because he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues."[55] Palin acknowledged that a member of her administration, Frank Bailey, did contact the Department of Public Safety regarding Wooten, but both Palin and Bailey say that happened without her knowledge and was unrelated to her dismissal of Monegan.[55] Bailey was put on leave for two months for acting outside the scope of his authority as the Director of Boards and Commissions. Commissioner Monegan received no severance pay, though at the same time another dismissed Commissioner, Charles Kopp (who served only 11 days) received $10,000.[56] In response to Palin's statement that she had nothing to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal. The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French, who says that the Palin administration has been cooperating and thus subpoenas are unnecessary.[57] The Palin administration itself was the first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status of the Wooten investigation.[55][58]
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That was when I believed that the basset hound was going to be selected... Was she well-received at the event?
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I am not saying this qualifies her to be president. This merely demonstrates she is A genuine Pro lifer.
She was very well received. The place was completely packed. Lots of cheering for her. I even saw her sign someones cell phone.
She's quite hot compared to Hillary Klinton and all the wives of the other p/vp candidates. She's gun-totin' feminine and a NORMAL conservative White mother of five. Our only hope is that McCain's heart seizes some time like next February and Palin, the only remaining "wild card," can step up to the plate and focus on "majority rule." www.usmagazine.com/news/s...up-in-1984-beauty-contest Gov. Sarah Palin Was Second Choice in '84 Beauty Contest Friday August 29, 2008 Sarah Palin, runner-up, Miss Alaska, 1984: ..."Governor Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president," the McCain campaign said in a statement Friday. "Governor Palin has the record of reform and bipartisanship that others can only speak of. Her experience in shaking up the status quo is exactly what is needed in Washington today."
It's Great to be White!
Sheesh, as if it isn't bad enough having a forum infested with Obama supporters.
Great news - thanks. Now to find a McKook voo-doo doll.
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Now I just have to find out how to get these off my phone and on the computer.
I don't have a phone, so I'm no help here...I don't even have a digital camera.
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Yeah, this time even I got that tingling in the leg.
I apologize for my previous anti-Palin remarks. She's a knockout, screw her politics.
tee hee, JT - now you're talking like a red blooded American male voter who has no dog in this Presidential race so why not go with your gut instinct? Hey I'm NOT knocking your reasoning - indeed, Palin being a woman and a gorgeous woman at that is one of the several assets I said Palin would bring to McCain's ticket - she would appeal to undecided male and female voters - Palin was scrapper's VP pick long before Palin was even an idea in McCain's thick head.
Anyone know what her stand on illegal aliens is?
I have no problem with her because I know very little about her. So far, the only thing I have a problem with is her accepting McCain's offer. I mean... would she agree to be the next Pope if the cardinals offered her the job?
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LOL - on CNN: Blitz - Is Sarah Palin ready to take over the job of commander in chief if McCain kicks the bucket? Lindsey Graham - Sure!
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That and Izzies are two question marks here.
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You really don't want to get in a discussion, do you, with lamestream 'merikans over what is and isn't experience that can be used/useful in the Oral Office.......I know I wouldn't. I think it was terribly dumb of the pow-hater to pick her. I was nearly yelling at my Mom when she told me who he had picked; I was ranting about the pow-hater losing any 'high ground' he had to stand on as it relates to calling BO 'light in the loafers'. Oh well......AlGore had it right back in the early 90s====which should be up is down and what is down should be up! Or backwards and forwards==no, wait, maybe side to side. Oh hell, never mind, I'll look on his internet and see if I can/could/will/won't/or frankly don't give a shit find his ramblings.
This fits with my opinion as well. That barrel of rotten apples does NOT produce good fresh, firm apples.
McCain's team would never pick anybody who isn't on board with Amnesty for illegals, Israel, and the "war on terror".
Truthfully, she could walk on water and I wouldn't be voting for her because of the pow-hater who straddles the top of the ticket.
Has RonPaul commented on her selection yet?
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Like I said on the other thread, a VP pick usually means nothing, they have no real power except in the case of Cheney, who was chosen by Papa Bush and the GOP to be Junior's handler. So McCain could have picked Ron Paul and it would have made no difference (except for the fact that I'd be disappointed with Ron Paul for accepting). PNAC's man is still the one in charge.
I don't know who selected her, but so far, I'm glad that they did.
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From wiki......with a lot of 'junk' just cut out to make this as short as possible......as it regards 'lack of experience': "After four years in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side. [11][13] During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.[14] Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute. WHOA! HERE BE A WHOLE NEW CAN OF WORMS MAYBE: GAMALIEL WAS THE JEWISH RABBI/SCRIBE THAT PAUL, THE APOSTLE TRAINED UNDER.[15] Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 and at the end of his first year was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition.[17] In his second year he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in- chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors.[18] Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[21][22] In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[11][24] Obama was a founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife, Michelle, became the founding executive director of Public Allies Chicago in early 1993.[11][25] He served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund Obama's DCP, from 1993–2002, and served on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation from 1994–2002.[11] Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.[11] He also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center".
And un-American to the core.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. William Ayers served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund.
If she really is a "conservative"--which is what they claim, and she is most assuredly pro life, it would be good if she could take McCain's place about the day after the election. Because it is a well-known fact that McCain is not a conservative. I don't understand why she would accept the job of being VP under McCain because if she really is a "Ron Paul independent" she has nothing in common with McCain.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I believe she won a beauty contest in the early 80's and she looks like time has been kind to her. I was out today with some family and the restaurant where we ate had a TV on and it showed McCain getting ready to introduce her. And then she came on and made a speech but of course you couldn't hear it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Seems like she was picked to put the evangelicals and pro lifers minds at ease. Really good, good reasons to pick a woman! Sheesh, they're generally known to rule with their hearts instead of their heads.
So why isn't she at the top of the ticket?
Unfortunately, you and I agree on this matter. Fortunately, everyone here knows I'm not a BO worshipper.
But lodwick, doesn't all that make you wonder why she would agree to be John McCain's running mate? I mean, unless she believes he is going to die the day after the election, in which case she becomes president. They can't have much in common (assuming that all that stuff about her is true).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I dunno.........regardless, I would never vote for such a ticket. POW-hater will never , nevah git my vote.
For sure I couldn't vote for old POW hater and wait to see the old buzzard croak. With my luck, I'd be seein hell freeze over and that bastard still in the WH!!!!
So, there is one? And maybe four or five who support Obama? What that tells me is that very few of the people who post on this board are fans of any establishment whore. But I guess if you find a big enough crowd you can always find a few who "go along to get along."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Yep. And the POW hater was best buds with a fella named Charles Keating-- something to do with savings and loans--and a number of other criminal-type senators.
Any "pro-lifers" who support war are hypocrites
Yes. With a caveat about your own homeland being invaded or attacked--not this gawd-awful bullshit 'preemptive' or 'terrorist' sort of crapola being shoveled out by the bucketloads nowadays.
LOL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Remember that Reagan despised GHWB, but 'they' told him to select him for his veep. And then tried to cap Ron shortly thereafter. I cannot figger out who told McKook to select SP, or why. I'm going to vote for her. At this stage of the game, what could it hurt?
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Another example is Jack Kennedy being forced to choose LBJ as his veep. They despised each other, but that was the ticket, back when.
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They ran all the dissention out by pretending to be independent of both political parties. What a sham.
Patience, ma'am.
It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed. Knowing what I know about McCain, I wouldn't vote for him if he had Jesus Christ as his running mate, because running mate or not, William Kristol and Gary Schmitt would still be telling him what to say, do, and think.
Well, to vote for her means you have to vote for that whackjob, loose cannon, McCain too. Maybe if she were at the top of the ticket or maybe if Ron had gotten the nomination and she was running with Ron, yeah. But Mclame? I "can't go there" myself, "wouldn't be prudent." But of course I am not going to vote for Obama and his sycophant plagiarist either.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. what it hurts is that your vote is an endorsement of a corrupt, fraudulent system. where's your the fact that Sara Palin is good looking doesn't alter the fact that she's a pro-war republican for starters.
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I guess that I'm counting on the three score and ten rule coming into play very, very soon. That's the only way I can justify my vote.
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my sentiments exactly.
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No surprise there.
Give us some info on the pro-war stuff - I've not seen anything about that. If she is pro-RP, how could she be pro-war? Freedom, PEACE, and Prosperity was the heart and soul of RP's campaign, and appeal.
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Lodwick knows nothing about this woman, yet he's signed up? After all these years of his posts, I find a real disconnect there.
Maybe she thought the MTV crowd was a little on the "lefty" anti-war side. She is pandering to greens in the video, is she not? She's probably safe for the pro-war right, so she's not safe for us until we know more about her. On the other hand, that her video interview stays up on the MTV network where she makes positive remarks about Ron Paul shows how much the GOP worries about his supporters and what it means to have the party split between the war camp and the peace camp.
would she be picked in the first place if she weren't on board with the USrael war agenda?
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where's this video you're referencing? is Palin an advocate of the WOT?
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Geez, "desperate people do desperate things", my father always told me. Sorry to find out you're not the person you presented yourself to be. Gag me, you're a McCain voter. But don't worry now, they won't run you outta here like they did the Obama supporters. They were just pretending to be neutral. Now that they have an event (beauty queen vp, gun slinging, ANWR supporter) to rationalize voting for the 100 year war and the complete annihilation of our constitution, no problem.
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...?ArtNum=85989&Disp=13#C13 My link has a corrected reference to HC's video post, if you want to see if HC's thread needs fixing up. I didn't listen to the video all the way through carefully, but I don't think I heard anything about the war.
Just the fact that she was selected proves that she should be executed for treason, or at the very least deported to her homeland, Israel. She's just another anti-America jew- fellating shitbag.
What does it freaking matter?
All I 'know,' and all anyone here 'knows,' is what we read in Wiki, and whatever else that we can find on the web. I'm just stating my opinions, if anyone has any other information that I should know, by all means, please bring it for us to learn. Right now, she's as unknown as Harry Truman or Jimmy Carter...
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Palin's husband, Todd Palin, works for BP energy corporation at an oil field on Alaska's North Slope.
On April 18, 2008, while in office as governor, Palin gave birth to her second son and fifth child, Trig Paxson Van Palin, who prenatal genetic testing showed would have Down syndrome. She returned to the office three days after giving birth. Jeez, so much for the kid...let the Nanny take care of it?
Well I can tell you right off the bat that this wiki stuff about Obama's Law Review appointment is garbage and omits some raaaather notable details. Historically Harvard Law Review appointments were based on grades and an essay BUT Harvard then went into Affirmative Action whole hog and established a minority quota for Law Review candidates and Obama was one of the first blacks to take advantage of this minority quota set-side Law Review appointments. Then he got elected President based on his campaign politica skills - he was the only black in the race and as you can imagine in the early 70's when white guilt and East Coast limousine liberalism were starting to show their prominence on elite campuses, Obama made good use of the golden opportunity that presented itself. query.nytimes.com/gst/ful...631F935A35751C0A966958260 "First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review" 02/06/1990 Some cut and paste: ...Change in Selection System Mr. Obama was elected after a meeting of the review's 80 editors that convened Sunday and lasted until early this morning, a participant said. Until the 1970's the editors were picked on the basis of grades, and the president of the Law Review was the student with the highest academic rank. Among these were Elliot L. Richardson, the former Attorney General, and Irwin Griswold, a dean of the Harvard Law School and Solicitor General under Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon. That system came under attack in the 1970's and was replaced by a program in which about half the editors are chosen for their grades and the other half are chosen by fellow students after a special writing competition. The new system, disputed when it began, was meant to help insure that minority students became editors of The Law Review. Harvard, like a number of other top law schools, no longer ranks its law students for any purpose including a guide to recruiters. Blacks at Harvard: New High Black enrollment at Harvard Law School, after a dip in the mid-1980's, has reached a record high this year, said Joyce Curll, the director of admissions. Of the 1,620 students in the three-year school, 12.5 percent this year are blacks, she said, and 14 percent of the first-year class are black. Nationwide enrollment by blacks in undergraduate colleges has dropped in recent years. Mr. Obama succeeds Peter Yu, a first-generation Chinese-American, as president of The Law Review. After graduation, Mr. Yu plans to serve as a clerk for Chief Judge Patricia Wald on the of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama's election ''was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.'' ...
Absolutely. It was McCain's 'gut' decision.
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The word I heard is that she is anti-illegal immigration.
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Oops...should read further before I insulted you. I'm sorry.
i can pretty safely bet my life on the fact that JT isn't voting for mcCain/palin. he just thinks she's cute.
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Jeez, so much for the kid...let the Nanny take care of it? That reminds me of the Monty Pythons 'the Meaning of Life". The were showing "the Irish" - a housewife in the kitchen, cooking, washing while babies were dropping off her tummy... it was actually funny - the dozen of already born kids singing "every sperm is precious".
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if i ever succomb to voting for lesser of two evils, you'll know it's the end of the world.
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i was simply trying to prove my point to lod--that she's a pro war republican-- by asking buckeye if palin had said on the video or anywhere that she supports the war on terror. i think we're pretty safe in assuming such, but i'd like to see or hear it from her.
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Thank you ...I was freaking out there for a minute...watching lod drink the koolaid made me sick.
hmmmm..i rather doubt that mcCain made the decision unilaterally.
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Politically, Palin was a smart pick for Mad Mac, and I'm sure his handlers approved. She'll get some idiot female Clinton voters who just want a woman in or near the white house, no matter what. She'll get some moron males who vote with their...well, you know. And she can't be critized by the Obummer Team for being inexperienced, because it's Pot-Kettle-Black. You can also be sure that if his handlers approved of her, she's all for neocon foreign policy.
From Libertysflame.com p.s. UNLESS, of course, mcCain's VP is all for show since it's a very strong possibility and probable, in my mind, that obama/biden is the predetermined winner.
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If he wanted to have a chance a winning he would have picked Romney who has governor experience, business experience, international experience, all greater than Paulin's by orders of magnitude and he is as conservative, pro-Zio and imperialistic as she is or even more so. His staff surely knows this. McCain's decision will totally undermine the message his campaign was building - of McCain side being the 'mature, experienced, patriotic and reliable'. His choice, and it's with little doubt, his decision, shows him as a gambler that would risk every 'the country' to win. Listen to Paulin's speech. After calling McCain HER running mate, she's calling her VP picking 'an opportunity' and a 'challenge'. Quote: "Senator McCain gave me this opportunity, he had a short list of highly qualified men and women. And to have made that list at all, it was a privilege. And to have been chosen brings a great challenge." It's pretty scary. And, I have little doubt that McCain wants to win and that his staff want him to win - because they get the nice jobs if he wins.
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Good job - thank you.
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the fact that Sara Palin is good looking doesn't alter the fact that she's a pro-war republican for starters. You make good points. She is a very nice looking woman but that, in and of itself, does not qualify anyone to be president. She sounds good on some other issues too but I have to wonder why she would accept the offer from McCain.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. See the answer above. It's all about her 'growth' and her being 'challenged' to self-improve.
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It doesn't angle, not from what I can tell.
can you imagine if months ago Paul had unveiled her as his VP? talk about a winner!
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It is interesting to note that almost a year ago Palin was seriously discussed as a running mate for Ron Paul. That of course will not be enough to sway me to vote for either of the two parties. My vote has already been cast earlier this year. However, it will be the first time in awhile where the VP (who as we all know is a "heartbeat" away from the presidency) was preferable to the president. That's something fwiw. I think McCain will likely come in 2nd in the race to the bottom. Which means he will be the next ruler. Much to most everyone's dismay.
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see my #146
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from libertysflame.com We need our own party.
Perhaps he picked her as his 'insurnace'....that he wouldn't be 'capped', so to speak....cause she would be an 'unknown'. Flawed thinking on his part, no doubt...but then, what does he have going for him--in the brain dept.
The ranks of "we" are getting pretty thin. Seems like half of the Ron Paul supporters on this site were sold on Obummer, the rest on Mad Mac's new postergirl.
I doubt that it's how the system works because it would be inefficient to have all these dark conspiracies behind everything. The system works by sheer inertia. You either go with the flow or you get crushed. Carter is one example. After him, the party people changed the rules to make sure that we don't get another one but, somehow, Obama slipped through, probably BECAUSE he was black and he could not be rejected as unceremoniously and as brutally as Ron Paul was. It's not clear what he'll become once he gets the job. He may give in and play ball or, maybe his more clever that most think and maybe he faked all these 'mainstream' positions and he may show his true face after he gets the job - think of Gorby.
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They'll be back.
Are you saying he lied at AIPAC and La Raza?
Exactly, loddy......so why the hell is she runnin with a war monger, for cryin out loud? I mean, Ron Paul he ain't!
She is "cute." In fact she is very pretty. But that doesn't mean I am going to vote for her because to vote for her would mean I would have to vote for that thing on the top of the ticket. And that ain't gonna happen.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The only thing Obama and Ron Paul have in common is that they're both male humans who have run for President. Other than that, Zip. One's a party animal in the mold of Joe Biden, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, the other is old school, genuine, and principled. Obama didn't "slip through," he was groomed for it by the old party hacks.
scrapper.......try 'splaining that to all the rapt 'ears' of the sheeple == within 8 seconds, of course. Aint' gonna happen. Its a part of his CV that he was such and such, and beyond that, the eyes would glaze over. To them, it would show he has experience. Now, if you could disprove that he was editor or president of anything, that might change the picture--but again, you only have 8 seconds to convince people.
Yes. And if Ron won the nomination I could have had someone to vote for. As it is I don't have anyone to vote for. I think this is the first presidential election since I have been eligible that I am even debating about even going to the polls at all. And if I do go it won't be to vote for president because if I heard correctly the Constitution Party didn't make it on the ballot here. Maybe I can vote for someone running for the House or something but I am not sure at this point if I will even bother.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It does seem like it. But I don't believe that any REAL Ron Paul supporter would ever vote for Obama (or McCain either for that matter). He is too much a polar opposite from them.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. from your link. That of course will not be enough to sway me to vote for either of the two parties. My vote has already been cast earlier this year. However, it will be the first time in awhile where the VP (who as we all know is a "heartbeat" away from the presidency) was preferable to the president. That's something fwiw. agreed.
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Rupert... Dont cast me in either. The system is rotten to the core and total removal is the only answer. If one looks at Palin on strictly party grounds politics, McKooK has made a wise choice. Regardless of which loser wins, America loses.
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James... Write her in as Prez.... Then add cuz shes cute...We will know it was you.
can you clarify? i'm not sure what you mean.
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i agree with you (again) with one caveat. obama was picked and groomed by hire ups than the old party hacks.
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Juan is bereft of gray-matter. Poster-boy for 'I'm special because of my family, and my mega-bucks trophy wife.'
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Who here would not run in the hope of making things better? You may not be in love with the guy that invited you to the prom, but that doesn't mean that you can't go, and have a super time once there.
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Thanks. Nice clip but I would like to know where she stands on issues like the damnable Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act just to name a couple of police state measures that McCain supports wholeheartedly. If I could ask her two or three questions I would know if she actually believes in that oath they are all required to take. I know McCain doesn't, Bush doesn't and Obama doesn't.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Write her in as Prez.... Then add cuz shes cute...We will know it was you. They don't count write in votes in this state, not even when it is for a pretty woman.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Romney was too slick a hairdo. He lost the GOP Pres candidacy to McCain because of his image and also his Mormon religion was not too popular with the evangelicals and the IsraelFirster zionists. It did not matter that Romney slavishly pled his loyalty to Izzy, the Usual Suspects feared he was an anti-semite deep down in his Mormon heart.
Looking at this mess on a strictly backroom political affair.... What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet??????? Mind you, not offer, but would ASK after the election, no commitment from himself or Hillary prior. For dirty politics that would put a slug on Congo Obummer and BS Biden.
We should give it a break. SP will be interviewed and grilled on all the questions that we've raised here. I hope that she measures up to the very highest of our hopes.
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You don't have to set aside your principles, loddy, to go to the prom--whether the guy/gal is cute/ugly or can dance/not dance. TO run as second fiddler with a guy that is as pro war/killing as you can get, believes every illegal alien has a right to be in this country at the local taxpayers' expense, yada yada, would mean that she has to l) agree with him OR 2) be a hypocrit by setting aside what she really believes in. We don't need anymore hypocrits running the shop, either. :( If she was so enamoured of ROn Paul and his positions, it would appear that #2 above is just as viable as #1......and I, for one, wouldn't consider voting for the person. Period. There have to be some values/principles which cannot be set aside, IMO, cause if you don't stand for some thing, you will stand for anything.
I hope that he's not that stupid. Anything that would get the bents close to the Oral Office is just insanity.
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Not stupid lod... smokey backroom politics... This is now down to bare knuckles politicking as BOTH losers want to be President. Neither is in it to lose. McKooK is behind the black 8 ball so to speak, so what does he have to lose??? Nothing. If he does not derail obummers train now there is no tomorrow for him. The men in the backroom could care less which one is the "winner". They already own both horses.
As I've said several times, the only reason that I'm voting R, is in the greatest hope that Juan goes to 'his reward,' really, really soon. It may, or may not be a long-shot bet, but that's all that I know to do. Bottom line - the black boxes will give us our next regime.
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They control the $$$ and the horses. We lose. Regardless.
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I'm surprised he didn't ask her to be his running mate since Obummer "dissed" her. LOL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Correct... BS Biden is a throw away, just another very old party hack. Palin on the other hand is the youngest of the lot with a future. If Obummer loses, he is finished done for. Going to be interesting as to how this plays out. I do not look for Hillary to end her career in the Senate, she will fit in here somewhere, somehow.
The conserva-forum networks are alive with pro-Palin talk.
I would not have been shocked had Hillary run with McKooK, nor would I be shocked McKooK tosses her name into the mix, she has nothing to lose.
buck... Dont lose sight of the cue ball. Palin HAD to be vetted by McKooK owners.
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Wheat from the chaff, baby.
No worries. They're gonna tell you everything you want to hear with a smidgin of controversy to make it seem plausible.
The "dream team" minus McCain.
It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed. my sentiments exactly this thread is cracking me up!! part of it is the fact that it's very comical whenever anyone says 'we're all DOOMED!' or 'amurika is DOOMED!' LOL! case in point: MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." Mind you, not offer, but would ASK after the election, no commitment from himself or Hillary prior. For dirty politics that would put a slug on Congo Obummer and BS Biden. that's an interesting hypothesis. i think whatever mcCain would gain with dems, he'd lose with repubs.
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truth hurts. what's there to do but laugh? ;)
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my sentiments exactly I can honestly say that I am immune to her allure. ;-)
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
As am I. *snickering*
You wanna talk about "a leg up" take a gander at Poppy and the Admiral's sons. Without the accident of birth neither would have made it up to middle management at Dunkin Doughnuts. Funny how none this kind of BS ever catches the attention of riding mower plutocrats. Hey Junior and McCain have never hidden their family connections. But your hero, Barrack Hussein Obama, is a different story all together. He pretends he's a law professor genius who rose to the top - Columbia undergraduate degree ( snort - say Occidental anyone?) and Harvard Law Review ( say black minority quota anyone?) and Harvard Law School ( not in the top ten graduating class of Columbia - say AA anyone?) and got tenure at U of Chicago ( though none of the faculty there can recall ever being asked to vote on giving Barry tenure, he just "got it" - magically! tee hee) and Barrack refuses to allow his college transcripts to be released - golly gee one wonders why - and Barrack never does a photo opp with his WHITE maternal grandma who happens to have been a VP banker in Hawaii and who paid for Barry's prep school education there. So McCain and Junior are unafraid to be linked to their families' connections but what gives about your hero and his false image? I guess you like dissembling empty suits - that must be it. Either that or you are a knee jerk Dem voter under all that pseudo Ron Paul rahrah and you are willing to over look even the most glaring flaws in a candidate who has a D after his name. March on.
Now, if you could disprove that he was editor or president of anything, that might change the picture--but again, you only have 8 seconds to convince people. You got me, dee. To expose Barrack Hussein Obama for the Affirmative Action empty head, empty suit he is would take me 80 seconds not 8 seconds. And his diehard fans like vast and iconoclast would cover their ears anyways so why bother.
angle: That seals the deal. Oh my, aren't we testy today... Let's see...on the one hand is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, raised as a Muslim in his formative years, who jumps onto Christianity when he's older out of convenience - in his own words in his biography, see Barry was thinking like a politician even when he was a teen - because he would be viewed as a "black American" if he was a member of a Christian church. And on the other hand we have Sarah Palin who has always been Christian and who takes her faith seriously not just as political asset/deficit like ahem Barry... Who to choose who to choose? America is merely 75% Christian by faith and 2% Muslim by faith...who best reflects America? Why of course according to angle , it's thumbs up for Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. Ha!
Your best argument for McCain/Katherine Harris wannabe is that I'm an Obama supporter? I'm not, so you'll have to do better.
Oh let me guess...you're upset because you're an American patriot. Got it.
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I try to not waste my time with lesser arguments. Let me sum up: I see the 2 party system as a fraud perpetrated on the American citizens. The money in charge chooses the two candidates that the global elite can direct and the ignorant sheeple go vote for one of the two like it's a choice. Palin is one of them...corrupt, complicit and an insider. When posters who I like (lod) go gaga over this pre-selected suit with all the right sound blurbs, I see how regular people get sucked up into the show and I'm gonna speak up. You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people. I might not have a solution to this crisis of exponentially increasing proportion, but I know enough that neither of these party hacks represent a solution. They represent more of what's wrong.
Palin is not an insider. At this time, she is a prop. And so is Biden, by the way and, I suspect he knows it and I have little doubt that she knows it too. She is likely to become an insider and the process commenced probably shortly after she became gov'nor of Alaska. I see signs of her assimilation in her speech - paying her respects to Hillary and... Gerry Ferraro???
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She was the mayor of Wasilla ( Pop. 9236 ) until 2002 when she was appointed chiarwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission by Murkowski. In 2006 she upsets Murkowski for Republican Governor Primary. In Alaska, you don't win without being an insider. So, she's been a mayor of a town with less than 10,000 people, a chairwoman for 2 years and a governor for 2 years. And now she's a contender for the VP of the Republican party?
This year John McCain is reprising the Republican Party's quadrennial effort of trying to woo Jewish voters, a group that overwhelmingly supports the Democratic Party and which is currently backing Barack Obama by a 2-to-1 margin (though I'd suspect that estimation is a little low). But if the GOP were truly serious about this outreach, would they really have put someone who appears to be a disciple of Pat Buchanan -- Sarah Palin -- on their ticket for November. The Nation's Chris Hayes scored a big scoop this morning, unearthing a report from 1999 of Palin's support of then-Independent Presidential candidate Buchanan. And per Ben Smith, Buchanan said today on MSNBC that Palin was "brigader [for his campaign] back in 1996." Take a look: As Smith notes, Buchanan's statements and actions over the years have earned him his own page on the Anti-Defamation League's website, highlighting statements ranging from "Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory" from 1990 and "If you want to know ethnicity and power in the United States Senate, 13 members of the Senate are Jewish folks who are from 2 percent of the population. That is where real power is at..." from just last year. And yet from multiple sources, both contemporaneous and more recent from those intimately involved, Palin appears to have been a long-time supporter of Buchanan. This is the way McCain and the Republicans expect to court Jewish voters (as well as the roughly 90 to 95 percent of Americans who are to the left of Buchanan)?
Alright, I must admit that I am unfamiliar with Alaska's political etiquette, I do notice that Alaska's population of about 650,000 (is this 1/4 of Brooklyn?) should offer many opportunities to anyone who wishes to seek a career as a state employee. A mayor of a town of 10,000 should be as big in Alaska as the mayor of a city of 5,000,000 on the mainland - do the math.
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The math is done by the global elite.
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly. But when posters like you are grumpy and snarky and snide from the get go - you claimed at one point that you thought Palin was a Jewess (???) - I have to scratch my head and wonder why there's such long mopey faces in some quarters over her nomination - so she's a VP candidate, big deal, even if she and McCain go to the WH, as VP she has less power than she had as Governor - as for her being evil or an insider or whatever, at this point no one knows much about her so why soil yourself until you read more about her or hear her speak. I don't like McCain or Obama so I'll not vote for either. Biden and Palin are irrelevant factors to my decision.
She's probably Irish.
Dude, posting pics like that is just not fair. :) How do you expect femenazis to compete with her?
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You are exactly right. That's what I was thinking actually. Her coloring - very fair skin with dark hair - and her maiden name is Heath.
She is German, Irish and English just like me.
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Her mother's surname is Sheeran, an Irish name.
Her agreeing to play ball for the McCain team should tell you enough about her - she's either stupid or evil. Or maybe she doesn't know McCain as much as McCain doesn't know her. Anyway, it's refreshing to see how enthusiastically the GOPs are playing the games of tokenism these days. I just heard on C-Span what was probably the first public use of "diversity" by a politician. It was Bush the poppy in 1988, as part of his stupid 'one thousand points of light' speech.
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Paul cant win...Paul cant win... Divine revelation.
Here's something very interesting which I stumbled across in researching who Palin is, what makes her tick - according to a Catholic blogger who claims to know Palin personally for many years - when Palin ran for Governor, the GOP actually openly supported and even threw fund raisers for the Democrat candidate running against Palin. As a result, Palin had so little $ in her campaign fund that she had to be very frugal in how many ads she could afford to run. Interesting, yes? proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her.
Yeah, she has shown she is not afraid to take on the establishment. The more I hear about her the more I like her.
God is always good!
yes, indeed. good find, scrap. as an aside, i still have problems with Ron Paul's "I'm a republican and I will always be a republican." i wish he'd denounce that damn party.
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Fyi...something for you to think about since you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid - I think I covered your laundry list criticisms about Palin. You might want to pay particular attention to points #4 and #5 as listed below. proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her.
I think Dr. Paul is still hopeful that his GOP party of bygone years - before it was polluted and high-jacked by the RINO's and the neocons - will return. Dr. Paul is a GOP person - he's not a Dem, that's for sure, and I don't think he's a Libertarian or Greenie. I think he identifies strongly with what were once the principles of the GOP and that's why he continues to carry the R after his name.
I didn't suggest that Ms. Palin was an insider. On the contrary, I stated that, in my view, she is a prop for McCain's campaign - she is being used by McCain because McCain believes that he needs another woman to get some of Hillary's '18 million' - his advisers are probably watching too much cable television. To the extent that she agrees to play ball and allow herself to be used by the McCains as a prop, she is guilty. If she doesn't realize that she's being used as a prop, then maybe she's dumber than W. To clarify the 'insider' comment. I stated that she is in the process of being assimilated and she seems to be cooperating. Final observation: for her to call the VP job 'an opportunity' and 'a challenge' is, should I say, not proper. Let's all agree that the purpose of her being the VP candidate is not her personal growth or even that of destroying the imaginary glass ceiling.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Palin has expressed support for McCain's foreign policy agenda. That should be enough for anyone here to write her off immediately.
I agree with that statement. I have no reason to dislike her either. Maybe the time will come when I do but not now.
Just because you know the lady and have more than passing knowledge of her work does NOT mean that Vast sitting behind his puter does not know her better than you. If vast says she is evil and or stupid then he has to be right. Being a Cynic I will take your word for it.
And then there is the little matter of.......if she is so against all that 'evil' corruption, blah blah, that was permeating Alaska's political scene, why in the world would she align herself with one of the infamous Keating Five scoundrels? Could this mean there is ever the slighest possibility that 'corruption' or 'evil' is in the eye of the beholder--that perhaps she really doesn't believe she did anything wrong IF IN FACT she make calls, etc., regarding firing the state trooper. While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie. At least not in my book.
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At least not in my book. Agree. We'll just have to see how the 'CommissionerGate' matter is resolved. Most all govs at the highest levels have corruption and cronyism to greater, or lesser extent. And AK sounds pretty bad. Maybe that's why SP's approval ratings are 70-90 percent favorable from the populace.
A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.
a. Here's an article from an Alaska newspaper - middle of the road perspective - that gives a bit of an overview about state trooper Wooten and the Sarah Palin controversy. www.newsminer.com/news/20...raises-conduct-questions/ "Scrutiny of Wooten raises conduct questions" 07/28/08 b. Here's something from the Wash Post - left wing MSM perspective www.washingtonpost.com/wp...598.html?nav=rss_politics "Palin Focus of Probe In Police Chief's Firing" 08/30/08 c. Here's a timeline of the events along with various embedded links to outside sources - right wing perspective www.floppingaces.net/2008...distortions-to-the-truth/ "Palin’s Trooper’Gate: Beating MSM distortions to the truth" 08/29/08 ***Take your pick which perspective tells the full story.****
But I think you knew that, didn't you, vast? McCain and Obama are both anti-America. But in terms of chess, McCain's the better player. Always nice to see a check in a debate (to keep it on target) in so few moves once in awhile.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Am reading each link.......and will post a comment probably regarding each, individually. The newsminer link: Trooper married and divorced 4x and he is only 35 years old. Holy batsheet! Factor that in with all the other little 'problems' he has, like drinking in squad car, speeding tickets, threatening to put some lead into his FIL if he helps his daughter get an attorney for a divorce, and tasering his kid......sounds like she should have stepped in and demanded the guy get axed before the state of AK has to paya bigtime when the guy goes 'postal' and does some really bad sheet! On to the next one......
Have you found anything that disputes what this Catholic blogger says about Palin? I'm sure it would be easy for you to double check the veracity of the blogger's major points. Here let me make it easy for you to point out anything you believe are falsehoods - I'll repost the blogger's remarks - go for it! - just because the statements are made by an "anonymous" blogger as you say, it does not mea that her points are invalid. I've read many many many signed articles in MSM and facts have been omitted from their stories, bias is obvious, and so called "facts" are half-truths. Just because a reporter's name is provided does not guarantee truth. proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her. Radical Catholic Mom is originally from Idaho, but lives in Alaska and loves it. She graduated from the University of Dallas with a degree in English Literature with a Spanish concentration and an emphasis in Theology. Her real learning came during and after college when she volunteered for short term and long term missions throughout the Southern US and Latin America. She is married to a wonderful Catholic man and the proud stay at home momma of two children, one on Earth and one in Heaven. Her passion is pro-life issues and all other Catholic Social Justice issues. She is also a convert to Catholicism from Lutheranism. She blogs at Radical Catholic Mom. Fyi, Radical Catholic Mom's entry above was published in Vox-Nova. Here's the info about the site - it's not what one might consider a GOP propaganda site.
Exactly my impression of the situation. Wondering if this rogue cop served in Desert Storm...
A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.
washingtonpost: typical; nothing new other than putting it out there that her husband and a PI took a dossier to Monegan--easily explained as concern and fear for the family....after all, this is the governors family which is being threatened. I'd like to hear from others that heard her try to talk to this Monegan and he held her at arms' length saying he could talk to hubby but not her.
Won't bother reading some blog.......especially the right-wing variety---I'm sick to death of the michelle malkin types in this world, for example. Just as the dems would not convict billyjeff for murder on the steps of the WH in broadday light, with all 3 major networks filming, the right would be equally as determined. Says a lot about the two=headed monster of the one-party system in this nation, doesn't it.
The article says he was in the air force; and further that he was on what would generally be called a 'swat' team==at least for some time- up in AK. Tell ya what, I'm not particularly interested in having a cop/police/whatever that is fresh out of or a recent retiree of the military. Military service used to mean something special to me.......now I just essentially see them as another life form of the BAFT and FBI and CIA lying murderers, thieves, and whatnot.
Things have done a 180 from when we were growing up.
A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.
She seems very nice. Too bad she's associated with McCain. Doesn't look good on her. Guilt by association.
I didn't write that line, angle just referred to it. But, the level of vitriol and nitpicking thrown at Sarah is telling. why are all the CNNMSNBC blowhards and the "reporters" throwing the kitchen sink at her. McCain - Queen to Obama's Rook!
Her record of taking on the oil companies is reminiscent of Teddy Roosevelt, McCain's hero. If he wins, expect a war, traditionally a sop to big money, to buy them off for some domestic reforms a la Teddy - Spanish Cuba war and domestic reforms. Reactions of Begala et al are telling. They've been snookered, they're scared and see the election slipping.
No fear exists for them in our plutocrat society. They're part of the the American equivalent of India's peak level of their caste system.
Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)
Palin and running mate
#2. To: All (#1)
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- she's got kids
- she is or was a union member and so is her hubby
- she's exactly what she needs
- she's exactly what the country needs
#3. To: All (#2)
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#4. To: All (#3)
#5. To: All (#4)
#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)
#7. To: RickyJ (#6)
#8. To: RickyJ (#6)
#9. To: Cynicom (#7)
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#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)
Andrea Mitchel just woke up from her feministic reverie... she's wondering "has the McCain campaign just conceded the 'experience' argument?"
#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)
#12. To: scrapper2 (#10)
#13. To: Cynicom (#11)
#14. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)
#15. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#13)
#16. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)
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#17. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#13)
Whoa!
#18. To: echo5sierra (#14)
#19. To: Original_Intent (#16)
#20. To: lodwick (#17)
#21. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)
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#22. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)
The 'experience' thing was McCain's strongest line of attack.
#23. To: lodwick (#17)
#24. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#25. To: Cynicom (#19)
OI...
#26. To: swarthyguy (#21)
#27. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, scrapper2 (#20)
I suppose
#28. To: Original_Intent (#16)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#29. To: Cynicom (#27)
#30. To: Artisan (#28)
Are you sh!tt!ing me? you're related to this broad for reals?
#31. To: Original_Intent, christine, all, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#25)
McNutz is a criminal psychotic and even though Sarah is family I WILL NOT vote for McNutz period - not because of political affiliation but because I want the best for my country
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#32. To: All (#17)
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Wiki has some good information on SP -
#33. To: lodwick (#32)
#34. To: All (#33)
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#35. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, iconoclast, All (#29)
I do not call Biden a plus for Obama. He picked Biden because the McCains were screaming 'inexperience'. Now, the McCains cut the branch from under their feet. Obama is left with Biden - and I doubt you're going to see them together often - while McCain is made to look like a dying granny AND he can't brag about his experience and seasoning no more.
#36. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#34)
#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#26)
most compelling anti-Obama argument
#38. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#34)
drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR), which Palin strongly supports
#39. To: scrapper2 (#35)
#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#33)
The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.[33]
#41. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#4)
she just called McCain "my running mate".
#42. To: scrapper2 (#40)
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#43. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)
#44. To: echo5sierra (#14)
her baby with Down Syndrome
#45. To: lodwick (#17)
on the cover of Vogue magazine.
#46. To: a vast rightwing conspirator. all (#42)
#47. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#39)
I've been predicting for many months that Obama was going to pick a very white boy and McCain was going to pick a woman. I was wrong on the identities. I thought Obama's choice was going to be Webb and McCain's was going to be Condi. So, I was wrong on the details but on the spot on the general principles. I am more confident that McCain is going to lose now than I was yesterday.
#48. To: swarthyguy (#21)
#49. To: scrapper2 (#35)
He and and his wife got help and a leg up all the way through life
#50. To: scrapper2 (#47)
#51. To: angle (#48)
#52. To: angle (#45)
#53. To: Original_Intent (#25)
I would just hope that he dies quickly and she takes over - that would be a good turn of events.
#54. To: swarthyguy, James Deffenbach (#51)
Sure, for months, went through all this a while back.
#55. To: Original_Intent (#25)
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she takes over
#56. To: swarthyguy (#37)
Palin was the head of the school Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
#57. To: angle (#54)
McCain afficionados
#58. To: All (#0)
#59. To: lodwick, James Deffenbach (#46)
#60. To: scrapper2 (#47)
Obama would never pick Webb - come on - Webb was 10 times smarter and that much less Marxist than Obama.
#61. To: lodwick (#52)
#62. To: swarthyguy (#51)
He married a beer heiress, that's good enough for me.
#63. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
youtube: claims that governor palin pressured powers that be to get her sister's 'abusive ex' fired from his deputy job.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#64. To: swarthyguy. all (#61)
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#65. To: All (#63)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#66. To: lodwick, christine, all (#46)
After reading her bio, I don't think McKook could have made a better selection.
#67. To: Artisan (#65)
Track is the oldest of Palin's four children and her only son.
#68. To: Old Friend (#66)
I have some close up photos I will be sharing later. 10ft from her. Farther from McCain.
#69. To: lodwick, swarthyguy (#46)
After reading her bio, I don't think McKook could have made a better selection.
#70. To: lodwick (#68)
Very nicely done - looking forward to seeing them.
#71. To: lodwick (#68)
#72. To: All (#64)
From Wiki on the Commissioner firing -
#73. To: Old Friend (#70)
You are the one that told me that I should re arrange my sock drawer instead of going though.
#74. To: angle (#44)
credentials to be President of this country?
#75. To: lodwick (#73)
Was she well-received at the event?
#76. To: swarthyguy (#61)
She's a better looking woman than most contemporary Hollywood Celebs
#77. To: angle (#48)
So, you're all in McCain now?
#78. To: Old Friend (#75)
She was very well received. The place was completely packed. Lots of cheering for her. I even saw her sign someones cell phone.
#79. To: lodwick (#78)
#80. To: Old Friend (#79)
#81. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#76)
#82. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#76)
#83. To: Jethro Tull (#82)
I apologize for my previous anti-Palin remarks. She's a knockout, screw her politics.
#84. To: Jethro Tull (#82)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#85. To: scrapper2 (#83)
#86. To: Jethro Tull (#82)
#87. To: who knows what evil (#84)
Anyone know what her stand on illegal aliens is?
#88. To: scrapper2 (#10)
#89. To: Original_Intent (#16)
She is a decent Woman and associating with these kinds of criminals would not be good thing for her morals.
#90. To: lodwick (#87)
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Anyone know what her stand on illegal aliens is? That and Izzies are two question marks here.
#91. To: swarthyguy (#21)
#92. To: rowdee. all. anyone (#89)
#93. To: rowdee (#91)
Truthfully, she could walk on water and I wouldn't be voting for her because of the pow-hater who straddles the top of the ticket.
#94. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#90)
McCain's team would never pick anybody who isn't on board with Amnesty for illegals, Israel, and the "war on terror".
#95. To: scrapper2 (#22)
#96. To: scrapper2 (#10)
McCain and Obama are both anti-America.
Lord Acton
#97. To: rowdee (#95)
#98. To: echo5sierra (#14)
Hopefully, she can succeed to the presidency in the next year.
Lord Acton
#99. To: lodwick (#17)
Sarah is definitely the hottest candidate, ever, for V.P.
Lord Acton
#100. To: Artisan, Original_Intent (#31)
PALIN FAMILY MEMBER IS 9/11 TRUTHER, SAYS MCCAIN IS CRIMINAL PSYCHOTIC
Lord Acton
#101. To: echo5sierra (#74)
#102. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#76)
..."Governor Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president," the McCain campaign said in a statement Friday. "Governor Palin has the record of reform and bipartisanship that others can only speak of. Her experience in shaking up the status quo is exactly what is needed in Washington today."
#103. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#85)
So far, the only thing I have a problem with is her accepting McCain's offer.
#104. To: lodwick (#46)
She is beautiful, smart, talented, honest, a Christian, and someone who would restore some honor to the office of v.p. Lord knows it needs it.
Lord Acton
#105. To: lodwick (#92)
#106. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#93)
#107. To: angle (#54)
Must have missed that. Ping to JD...he almost ripped my head off for suggesting there were McCain afficionados at 4UM.
Lord Acton
#108. To: Jethro Tull (#97)
William Ayers served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund.
#109. To: rowdee (#101)
Seems like she was picked to put the evangelicals and pro lifers minds at ease
#110. To: robnoel (#109)
#111. To: lodwick (#78)
Now to find a McKook voo-doo doll.
Lord Acton
#112. To: James Deffenbach, rowdee, all (#104)
But lodwick, doesn't all that make you wonder why she would agree to be John McCain's running mate? I mean, unless she believes he is going to die the day after the election, in which case she becomes president. They can't have much in common (assuming that all that stuff about her is true).
#113. To: All (#112)
#114. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#77)
Sheesh, as if it isn't bad enough having a forum infested with Obama supporters.
#115. To: rowdee (#102)
So why isn't she at the top of the ticket?
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#116. To: angle (#114)
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They ran all the dissention out by pretending to be independent of both political parties.
#117. To: lodwick (#112)
I'm going to vote for her. At this stage of the game, what could it hurt?
Lord Acton
#118. To: lodwick (#112)
At this stage of the game, what could it hurt?
big head? ;)
#119. To: James Deffenbach. all (#117)
#120. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#116)
It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed.
#121. To: Jethro Tull (#82)
I apologize for my previous anti-Palin remarks.
#122. To: christine (#118)
the fact that Sara Palin is good looking doesn't alter the fact that she's a pro-war republican for starters.
#123. To: James Deffenbach, lodwick (#104)
"She is beautiful, smart, talented, honest, a Christian, and someone who would restore some honor to the office of v.p."
#124. To: lodwick (#122)
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#125. To: lodwick (#122)
#126. To: buckeye (#124)
#127. To: lodwick, christine, all (#112)
At this stage of the game, what could it hurt?
#128. To: christine, Hypocrisy Cop (#126)
#129. To: christine (#118)
the fact that Sara Palin is good looking doesn't alter the fact that she's a pro-war republican for starters.
#130. To: christine (#126)
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where's this video you're referencing? is Palin an advocate of the WOT?
#131. To: angle, christine, all (#123)
#132. To: All, esso (#130)
#133. To: All (#132)
#134. To: rowdee (#95)
Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 and at the end of his first year was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition.[17] In his second year he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in- chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors.[18]
#135. To: christine (#125)
would she be picked in the first place if she weren't on board with the USrael war agenda?
#136. To: who knows what evil (#84)
#137. To: christine (#118)
#138. To: angle, Jethro Tull (#121)
#139. To: angle (#133)
On April 18, 2008, while in office as governor, Palin gave birth to her second son and fifth child, Trig Paxson Van Palin, who prenatal genetic testing showed would have Down syndrome. She returned to the office three days after giving birth.
#140. To: angle (#137)
#141. To: angle (#130)
What does it freaking matter?
#142. To: christine (#140)
if i ever succomb to voting for lesser of two evils, you'll know it's the end of the world.
#143. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#135)
It was McCain's 'gut' decision.
#144. To: christine (#143)
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hmmmm..i rather doubt that mcCain made the decision unilaterally.
#145. To: lodwick (#68)
Very nicely done - looking forward to seeing them.
#146. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#135)
#147. To: christine (#143)
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#148. To: Old Friend (#145)
#149. To: christine (#118)
what it hurts is that your vote is an endorsement of a corrupt, fraudulent system. where's your
big head? ;)
Lord Acton
#150. To: James Deffenbach (#149)
"Senator McCain gave me this opportunity, he had a short list of highly qualified men and women. And to have made that list at all, it was a privilege. And to have been chosen brings a great challenge."
#151. To: angle, Cynicom (#130)
#152. To: James Deffenbach, Cynicom, scrapper2, ALL (#149)
#153. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, christine (#0)
#154. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#147)
#155. To: PnbC (#153)
#156. To: christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#154)
#157. To: lodwick (#112)
#158. To: buckeye (#156)
(Edited)
We need our own party.
#159. To: rowdee (#157)
#160. To: christine (#154)
#161. To: Rupert_Pupkin, robin (#158)
#162. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#160)
Obama slipped through...
#163. To: lodwick (#122)
Freedom, PEACE, and Prosperity was the heart and soul of RP's campaign, and appeal.
#164. To: christine (#138)
i can pretty safely bet my life on the fact that JT isn't voting for mcCain/palin. he just thinks she's cute.
Lord Acton
#165. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#160)
(Edited)
Obama slipped through, probably BECAUSE he was black and he could not be rejected as unceremoniously and as brutally as Ron Paul was
#166. To: scrapper2 (#134)
#167. To: christine (#152)
can you imagine if months ago Paul had unveiled her as his VP? talk about a winner!
Lord Acton
#168. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#158)
The ranks of "we" are getting pretty thin.
Lord Acton
#169. To: PnbC (#153)
She has publicly complained about fellow Republicans' unethical behavior and references Alaska's Constitution whenever she speaks. Considered a maverick in the GOP, she goes around saying things like: "Fiscally speaking, the private sector can do a better job than government can do." and "Also just trusting individuals to make wise decisions for themselves and families. I have a lot of trust in individuals. I don't trust government nearly as much." She recently signed a bill making it a crime for public servants not to report bribery they know about.
#170. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#158)
#171. To: James Deffenbach (#167)
#172. To: James Deffenbach (#164)
She is "cute." In fact she is very pretty. But that doesn't mean I am going to vote for her because to vote for her would mean I would have to vote for that thing on the top of the ticket. And that ain't gonna happen.
#173. To: PnbC (#153)
I think McCain will likely come in 2nd in the race to the bottom. Which means he will be the next ruler.
#174. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#165)
One's a party animal in the mold of Joe Biden, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, the other is old school, genuine, and principled. Obama didn't "slip through," he was groomed for it by the old party hacks.
#175. To: rowdee (#157)
Flawed thinking on his part, no doubt...but then, what does he have going for him--in the brain dept.
#176. To: rowdee. all. anyone (#163)
Exactly, loddy......so why the hell is she runnin with a war monger, for cryin out loud? I mean, Ron Paul he ain't!
#177. To: Old Friend (#171)
Lord Acton
#178. To: Cynicom (#172)
James...
Lord Acton
#179. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#147)
If he wanted to have a chance a winning he would have picked Romney who has governor experience, business experience, international experience, all greater than Paulin's by orders of magnitude and he is as conservative, pro-Zio and imperialistic as she is or even more so. His staff surely knows this.
#180. To: lodwick, christine, James Deffenbach (#176)
#181. To: James Deffenbach, the thread (#177)
Thanks. Nice clip but I would like to know where she stands on issues like the damnable Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act just to name a couple of police state measures that McCain supports wholeheartedly. If I could ask her two or three questions I would know if she actually believes in that oath they are all required to take. I know McCain doesn't, Bush doesn't and Obama doesn't.
#182. To: lodwick (#176)
#183. To: Cynicom (#180)
What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet?
#184. To: lodwick (#183)
I hope that he's not that stupid.
#185. To: rowdee, all (#182)
#186. To: Cynicom (#184)
The men in the backroom could care less which one is the "winner". They already own both horses.
#187. To: Cynicom (#180)
What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????
Lord Acton
#188. To: lodwick (#186)
They control the $$$ and the horses.
#189. To: Cynicom (#188)
#190. To: James Deffenbach (#187)
I'm surprised he didn't ask her to be his running mate since Obummer "dissed" her. LOL!
#191. To: buckeye (#189)
#192. To: Cynicom (#191)
#193. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#158)
The ranks of "we" are getting pretty thin.
#194. To: lodwick (#181)
I hope that she measures up to the very highest of our hopes.
#195. To: buckeye (#189)
The conserva-forum networks are alive with pro-Palin talk.
#196. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Original_Intent, all (#0)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#197. To: christine (#120)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#198. To: Cynicom (#180)
What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????
#199. To: Artisan (#197)
'we're all DOOMED!' or 'amurika is DOOMED!' LOL!
#200. To: Artisan, christine, wudidiz (#197)
It sure didn't take much to win some people over to the McCain team. All it took was a decent looking woman. If that's all it takes to get votes from "independents" for a PNAC puppet, we're all doomed.
#201. To: Original_Intent, Artisan, christine, wudidiz (#200)
I can honestly say that I am immune to her allure. ;-)
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#202. To: iconoclast (#49)
What an absolute hoot.
#203. To: All (#200)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#204. To: rowdee (#166)
scrapper.......try 'splaining that to all the rapt 'ears' of the sheeple == within 8 seconds, of course. Aint' gonna happen. Its a part of his CV that he was such and such, and beyond that, the eyes would glaze over. To them, it would show he has experience.
#205. To: angle, swarthyguy (#56)
swarthyguy: Palin was the head of the school Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
#206. To: scrapper2 (#205)
#207. To: angle (#206)
Your best argument for McCain/Katherine Harris wannabe is that I'm an Obama supporter? I'm not, so you'll have to do better.
#208. To: scrapper2 (#207)
#209. To: scrapper2, lodwick (#207)
#210. To: angle (#209)
(Edited)
#211. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#210)
#212. To: angle (#211)
Palin's Buchanan Problem
#213. To: angle (#211)
(Edited)
#214. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#213)
#215. To: angle (#209)
You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people.
#216. To: scrapper2 (#215)
#217. To: wudidiz (#203)
#218. To: buckeye (#216)
She's probably Irish.
#219. To: buckeye (#216)
She's probably Irish.
#220. To: scrapper2, RickyJ (#218)
#221. To: scrapper2 (#215)
(Edited)
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly.
#222. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#221)
#223. To: buckeye, angle, christine, rowdee, Ricky J, lodwick, wudidiz, Rupert_Pupkin, All (#216)
#224. To: scrapper2 (#223)
Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State.
#225. To: scrapper2, Cynicom, angle, Rupert_Pupkin, Esso, Jethro Tull, lodwick, all (#223)
when Palin ran for Governor, the GOP actually openly supported and even threw fund raisers for the Democrat candidate running against Palin. As a result, Palin had so little $ in her campaign fund that she had to be very frugal in how many ads she could afford to run. Interesting, yes?
#226. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#223)
#227. To: christine (#225)
as an aside, i still have problems with Ron Paul's "I'm a republican and I will always be a republican." i wish he'd denounce that damn party.
#228. To: scrapper2 (#226)
#229. To: scrapper2 (#226)
Fyi...something for you to think about since you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid - I think I covered your laundry list criticisms about Palin
#230. To: scrapper2 (#215)
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly
#231. To: scrapper2, a vast rightwing conspirator (#226)
you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid -
#232. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#229)
#233. To: christine (#225)
yes, indeed. good find, scrap.
#234. To: rowdee (#232)
While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie.
#235. To: rowdee, lodwick, christine (#232)
Could this mean there is ever the slighest possibility that 'corruption' or 'evil' is in the eye of the beholder--that perhaps she really doesn't believe she did anything wrong IF IN FACT she make calls, etc., regarding firing the state trooper. While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie.
#236. To: scrapper2 (#10)
Well duh, Andrea. Palin is a GOVERNOR - ie she is a manager, and a gorgeous one at that unlike Put a bag on her Head Andrea. McCain picked Palin to cover his own Senator for Life weakness ie. lack of managerial experience. When McCain criticized Obama for lack of experience, he was criticizing Obama for being inexperienced in federal politics as compared to himself - he was comparing his Senatorial experience to Obama's Senatorial experience.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#237. To: scrapper2 (#235)
#238. To: angle, christine (#233)
an anonymous blog
#239. To: rowdee. all (#237)
sounds like she should have stepped in and demanded the guy get axed before the state of AK has to paya bigtime when the guy goes 'postal' and does some really bad sheet!
#240. To: scrapper2 (#235)
#241. To: scrapper2 (#235)
#242. To: lodwick (#239)
#243. To: rowdee (#242)
Military service used to mean something special to me.......now I just essentially see them as another life form of the BAFT and FBI and CIA lying murderers, thieves, and whatnot.
#244. To: scrapper2, all (#223)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
#245. To: scrapper2 (#205)
#246. To: scrapper2 (#238)
#247. To: scrapper2 (#202)
So McCain and Junior are unafraid to be linked to their families' connections but what gives about your hero and his false image?
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