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Title: First Impressions of Palin [live from Ohio... it's Friday Afternoon!!!]
Source: TV
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Published: Aug 29, 2008
Author: TV
Post Date: 2008-08-29 12:18:42 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 2199
Comments: 247

The introduction is about to begin.

Let's hear first impressions from everyone as this is happening.

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#144. To: christine (#143) (Edited)

hmmmm..i rather doubt that mcCain made the decision unilaterally.

Politically, Palin was a smart pick for Mad Mac, and I'm sure his handlers approved.

She'll get some idiot female Clinton voters who just want a woman in or near the white house, no matter what.

She'll get some moron males who vote with their...well, you know.

And she can't be critized by the Obummer Team for being inexperienced, because it's Pot-Kettle-Black.

You can also be sure that if his handlers approved of her, she's all for neocon foreign policy.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-29   18:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: lodwick (#68)

Very nicely done - looking forward to seeing them.

From Libertysflame.com Sarah Palin with daughter and husband

Old Friend  posted on  2008-08-29   18:27:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#135)

p.s. UNLESS, of course, mcCain's VP is all for show since it's a very strong possibility and probable, in my mind, that obama/biden is the predetermined winner.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   18:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: christine (#143) (Edited)

If he wanted to have a chance a winning he would have picked Romney who has governor experience, business experience, international experience, all greater than Paulin's by orders of magnitude and he is as conservative, pro-Zio and imperialistic as she is or even more so. His staff surely knows this.

McCain's decision will totally undermine the message his campaign was building - of McCain side being the 'mature, experienced, patriotic and reliable'. His choice, and it's with little doubt, his decision, shows him as a gambler that would risk every 'the country' to win.

Listen to Paulin's speech. After calling McCain HER running mate, she's calling her VP picking 'an opportunity' and a 'challenge'. Quote: "Senator McCain gave me this opportunity, he had a short list of highly qualified men and women. And to have made that list at all, it was a privilege. And to have been chosen brings a great challenge."

It's pretty scary.

And, I have little doubt that McCain wants to win and that his staff want him to win - because they get the nice jobs if he wins.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   18:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Old Friend (#145)

Good job - thank you.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   18:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: christine (#118)

what it hurts is that your vote is an endorsement of a corrupt, fraudulent system. where's your big head? ;)

the fact that Sara Palin is good looking doesn't alter the fact that she's a pro-war republican for starters.

You make good points. She is a very nice looking woman but that, in and of itself, does not qualify anyone to be president. She sounds good on some other issues too but I have to wonder why she would accept the offer from McCain.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   18:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: James Deffenbach (#149)

"Senator McCain gave me this opportunity, he had a short list of highly qualified men and women. And to have made that list at all, it was a privilege. And to have been chosen brings a great challenge."

See the answer above.

It's all about her 'growth' and her being 'challenged' to self-improve.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   18:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: angle, Cynicom (#130)

It doesn't angle, not from what I can tell.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-29   18:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: James Deffenbach, Cynicom, scrapper2, ALL (#149)

can you imagine if months ago Paul had unveiled her as his VP? talk about a winner!

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   18:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, christine (#0)

It is interesting to note that almost a year ago Palin was seriously discussed as a running mate for Ron Paul.

That of course will not be enough to sway me to vote for either of the two parties. My vote has already been cast earlier this year. However, it will be the first time in awhile where the VP (who as we all know is a "heartbeat" away from the presidency) was preferable to the president. That's something fwiw. I think McCain will likely come in 2nd in the race to the bottom. Which means he will be the next ruler. Much to most everyone's dismay.

"They should rename 'FreeRepublic.com' 'ABunchOfDumbAsses.org'" -- Scott Horton

PnbC  posted on  2008-08-29   18:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#147)

see my #146

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   18:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: PnbC (#153)

from libertysflame.com Sarah Palin1

Old Friend  posted on  2008-08-29   18:44:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#154)

We need our own party.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-29   18:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: lodwick (#112)

Perhaps he picked her as his 'insurnace'....that he wouldn't be 'capped', so to speak....cause she would be an 'unknown'. Flawed thinking on his part, no doubt...but then, what does he have going for him--in the brain dept.

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-29   18:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: buckeye (#156) (Edited)

We need our own party.

The ranks of "we" are getting pretty thin. Seems like half of the Ron Paul supporters on this site were sold on Obummer, the rest on Mad Mac's new postergirl.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-29   18:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: rowdee (#157)

Photobucket

Old Friend  posted on  2008-08-29   18:48:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: christine (#154)

I doubt that it's how the system works because it would be inefficient to have all these dark conspiracies behind everything.

The system works by sheer inertia. You either go with the flow or you get crushed. Carter is one example. After him, the party people changed the rules to make sure that we don't get another one but, somehow, Obama slipped through, probably BECAUSE he was black and he could not be rejected as unceremoniously and as brutally as Ron Paul was. It's not clear what he'll become once he gets the job. He may give in and play ball or, maybe his more clever that most think and maybe he faked all these 'mainstream' positions and he may show his true face after he gets the job - think of Gorby.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-08-29   18:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Rupert_Pupkin, robin (#158)

They'll be back.

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-29   18:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#160)

Obama slipped through...

Are you saying he lied at AIPAC and La Raza?

buckeye  posted on  2008-08-29   18:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: lodwick (#122)

Freedom, PEACE, and Prosperity was the heart and soul of RP's campaign, and appeal.

Exactly, loddy......so why the hell is she runnin with a war monger, for cryin out loud? I mean, Ron Paul he ain't!

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-29   18:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: christine (#138)

i can pretty safely bet my life on the fact that JT isn't voting for mcCain/palin. he just thinks she's cute.

She is "cute." In fact she is very pretty. But that doesn't mean I am going to vote for her because to vote for her would mean I would have to vote for that thing on the top of the ticket. And that ain't gonna happen.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   18:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#160) (Edited)

Obama slipped through, probably BECAUSE he was black and he could not be rejected as unceremoniously and as brutally as Ron Paul was

The only thing Obama and Ron Paul have in common is that they're both male humans who have run for President. Other than that, Zip.

One's a party animal in the mold of Joe Biden, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, the other is old school, genuine, and principled. Obama didn't "slip through," he was groomed for it by the old party hacks.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-29   18:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: scrapper2 (#134)

scrapper.......try 'splaining that to all the rapt 'ears' of the sheeple == within 8 seconds, of course. Aint' gonna happen. Its a part of his CV that he was such and such, and beyond that, the eyes would glaze over. To them, it would show he has experience.

Now, if you could disprove that he was editor or president of anything, that might change the picture--but again, you only have 8 seconds to convince people.

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-29   18:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: christine (#152)

can you imagine if months ago Paul had unveiled her as his VP? talk about a winner!

Yes. And if Ron won the nomination I could have had someone to vote for. As it is I don't have anyone to vote for. I think this is the first presidential election since I have been eligible that I am even debating about even going to the polls at all. And if I do go it won't be to vote for president because if I heard correctly the Constitution Party didn't make it on the ballot here. Maybe I can vote for someone running for the House or something but I am not sure at this point if I will even bother.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   18:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#158)

The ranks of "we" are getting pretty thin.

It does seem like it. But I don't believe that any REAL Ron Paul supporter would ever vote for Obama (or McCain either for that matter). He is too much a polar opposite from them.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   18:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: PnbC (#153)

She has publicly complained about fellow Republicans' unethical behavior and references Alaska's Constitution whenever she speaks. Considered a maverick in the GOP, she goes around saying things like: "Fiscally speaking, the private sector can do a better job than government can do." and "Also just trusting individuals to make wise decisions for themselves and families. I have a lot of trust in individuals. I don't trust government nearly as much." She recently signed a bill making it a crime for public servants not to report bribery they know about.

from your link.

That of course will not be enough to sway me to vote for either of the two parties. My vote has already been cast earlier this year. However, it will be the first time in awhile where the VP (who as we all know is a "heartbeat" away from the presidency) was preferable to the president. That's something fwiw.

agreed.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   19:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#158)

Rupert...

Dont cast me in either. The system is rotten to the core and total removal is the only answer.

If one looks at Palin on strictly party grounds politics, McKooK has made a wise choice.

Regardless of which loser wins, America loses.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   19:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: James Deffenbach (#167)

Charlie Rose - Sarah Palin

Old Friend  posted on  2008-08-29   19:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: James Deffenbach (#164)

She is "cute." In fact she is very pretty. But that doesn't mean I am going to vote for her because to vote for her would mean I would have to vote for that thing on the top of the ticket. And that ain't gonna happen.

James...

Write her in as Prez....

Then add cuz shes cute...We will know it was you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   19:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: PnbC (#153)

I think McCain will likely come in 2nd in the race to the bottom. Which means he will be the next ruler.

can you clarify? i'm not sure what you mean.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   19:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#165)

One's a party animal in the mold of Joe Biden, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, the other is old school, genuine, and principled. Obama didn't "slip through," he was groomed for it by the old party hacks.

i agree with you (again) with one caveat. obama was picked and groomed by hire ups than the old party hacks.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-29   19:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: rowdee (#157)

Flawed thinking on his part, no doubt...but then, what does he have going for him--in the brain dept.

Juan is bereft of gray-matter.

Poster-boy for 'I'm special because of my family, and my mega-bucks trophy wife.'

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: rowdee. all. anyone (#163)

Exactly, loddy......so why the hell is she runnin with a war monger, for cryin out loud? I mean, Ron Paul he ain't!

Who here would not run in the hope of making things better?

You may not be in love with the guy that invited you to the prom, but that doesn't mean that you can't go, and have a super time once there.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Old Friend (#171)

Thanks. Nice clip but I would like to know where she stands on issues like the damnable Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act just to name a couple of police state measures that McCain supports wholeheartedly. If I could ask her two or three questions I would know if she actually believes in that oath they are all required to take. I know McCain doesn't, Bush doesn't and Obama doesn't.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   19:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Cynicom (#172)

James...

Write her in as Prez....

Then add cuz shes cute...We will know it was you.

They don't count write in votes in this state, not even when it is for a pretty woman.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-08-29   19:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#147)

If he wanted to have a chance a winning he would have picked Romney who has governor experience, business experience, international experience, all greater than Paulin's by orders of magnitude and he is as conservative, pro-Zio and imperialistic as she is or even more so. His staff surely knows this.

Romney was too slick a hairdo. He lost the GOP Pres candidacy to McCain because of his image and also his Mormon religion was not too popular with the evangelicals and the IsraelFirster zionists. It did not matter that Romney slavishly pled his loyalty to Izzy, the Usual Suspects feared he was an anti-semite deep down in his Mormon heart.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-29   19:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: lodwick, christine, James Deffenbach (#176)

Looking at this mess on a strictly backroom political affair....

What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet???????

Mind you, not offer, but would ASK after the election, no commitment from himself or Hillary prior. For dirty politics that would put a slug on Congo Obummer and BS Biden.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-08-29   19:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: James Deffenbach, the thread (#177)

Thanks. Nice clip but I would like to know where she stands on issues like the damnable Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act just to name a couple of police state measures that McCain supports wholeheartedly. If I could ask her two or three questions I would know if she actually believes in that oath they are all required to take. I know McCain doesn't, Bush doesn't and Obama doesn't.

We should give it a break.

SP will be interviewed and grilled on all the questions that we've raised here.

I hope that she measures up to the very highest of our hopes.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: lodwick (#176)

You don't have to set aside your principles, loddy, to go to the prom--whether the guy/gal is cute/ugly or can dance/not dance. TO run as second fiddler with a guy that is as pro war/killing as you can get, believes every illegal alien has a right to be in this country at the local taxpayers' expense, yada yada, would mean that she has to l) agree with him OR 2) be a hypocrit by setting aside what she really believes in.

We don't need anymore hypocrits running the shop, either. :(

If she was so enamoured of ROn Paul and his positions, it would appear that #2 above is just as viable as #1......and I, for one, wouldn't consider voting for the person. Period.

There have to be some values/principles which cannot be set aside, IMO, cause if you don't stand for some thing, you will stand for anything.

rowdee  posted on  2008-08-29   19:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Cynicom (#180)

What if McKooK says, if elected he will ask Hillary to accept a high level post in his cabinet?

I hope that he's not that stupid.

Anything that would get the bents close to the Oral Office is just insanity.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-29   19:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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