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Title: First Impressions of Palin [live from Ohio... it's Friday Afternoon!!!]
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Published: Aug 29, 2008
Author: TV
Post Date: 2008-08-29 12:18:42 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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The introduction is about to begin. Let's hear first impressions from everyone as this is happening.
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#206. To: scrapper2 (#205)
Your best argument for McCain/Katherine Harris wannabe is that I'm an Obama supporter? I'm not, so you'll have to do better.
Oh let me guess...you're upset because you're an American patriot. Got it.
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I try to not waste my time with lesser arguments. Let me sum up: I see the 2 party system as a fraud perpetrated on the American citizens. The money in charge chooses the two candidates that the global elite can direct and the ignorant sheeple go vote for one of the two like it's a choice. Palin is one of them...corrupt, complicit and an insider. When posters who I like (lod) go gaga over this pre-selected suit with all the right sound blurbs, I see how regular people get sucked up into the show and I'm gonna speak up. You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people. I might not have a solution to this crisis of exponentially increasing proportion, but I know enough that neither of these party hacks represent a solution. They represent more of what's wrong.
Palin is not an insider. At this time, she is a prop. And so is Biden, by the way and, I suspect he knows it and I have little doubt that she knows it too. She is likely to become an insider and the process commenced probably shortly after she became gov'nor of Alaska. I see signs of her assimilation in her speech - paying her respects to Hillary and... Gerry Ferraro???
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
She was the mayor of Wasilla ( Pop. 9236 ) until 2002 when she was appointed chiarwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission by Murkowski. In 2006 she upsets Murkowski for Republican Governor Primary. In Alaska, you don't win without being an insider. So, she's been a mayor of a town with less than 10,000 people, a chairwoman for 2 years and a governor for 2 years. And now she's a contender for the VP of the Republican party?
This year John McCain is reprising the Republican Party's quadrennial effort of trying to woo Jewish voters, a group that overwhelmingly supports the Democratic Party and which is currently backing Barack Obama by a 2-to-1 margin (though I'd suspect that estimation is a little low). But if the GOP were truly serious about this outreach, would they really have put someone who appears to be a disciple of Pat Buchanan -- Sarah Palin -- on their ticket for November. The Nation's Chris Hayes scored a big scoop this morning, unearthing a report from 1999 of Palin's support of then-Independent Presidential candidate Buchanan. And per Ben Smith, Buchanan said today on MSNBC that Palin was "brigader [for his campaign] back in 1996." Take a look: As Smith notes, Buchanan's statements and actions over the years have earned him his own page on the Anti-Defamation League's website, highlighting statements ranging from "Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory" from 1990 and "If you want to know ethnicity and power in the United States Senate, 13 members of the Senate are Jewish folks who are from 2 percent of the population. That is where real power is at..." from just last year. And yet from multiple sources, both contemporaneous and more recent from those intimately involved, Palin appears to have been a long-time supporter of Buchanan. This is the way McCain and the Republicans expect to court Jewish voters (as well as the roughly 90 to 95 percent of Americans who are to the left of Buchanan)?
Alright, I must admit that I am unfamiliar with Alaska's political etiquette, I do notice that Alaska's population of about 650,000 (is this 1/4 of Brooklyn?) should offer many opportunities to anyone who wishes to seek a career as a state employee. A mayor of a town of 10,000 should be as big in Alaska as the mayor of a city of 5,000,000 on the mainland - do the math.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
The math is done by the global elite.
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly. But when posters like you are grumpy and snarky and snide from the get go - you claimed at one point that you thought Palin was a Jewess (???) - I have to scratch my head and wonder why there's such long mopey faces in some quarters over her nomination - so she's a VP candidate, big deal, even if she and McCain go to the WH, as VP she has less power than she had as Governor - as for her being evil or an insider or whatever, at this point no one knows much about her so why soil yourself until you read more about her or hear her speak. I don't like McCain or Obama so I'll not vote for either. Biden and Palin are irrelevant factors to my decision.
She's probably Irish.
Dude, posting pics like that is just not fair. :) How do you expect femenazis to compete with her?
God is always good!
You are exactly right. That's what I was thinking actually. Her coloring - very fair skin with dark hair - and her maiden name is Heath.
She is German, Irish and English just like me.
God is always good!
Her mother's surname is Sheeran, an Irish name.
Her agreeing to play ball for the McCain team should tell you enough about her - she's either stupid or evil. Or maybe she doesn't know McCain as much as McCain doesn't know her. Anyway, it's refreshing to see how enthusiastically the GOPs are playing the games of tokenism these days. I just heard on C-Span what was probably the first public use of "diversity" by a politician. It was Bush the poppy in 1988, as part of his stupid 'one thousand points of light' speech.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Paul cant win...Paul cant win... Divine revelation.
Here's something very interesting which I stumbled across in researching who Palin is, what makes her tick - according to a Catholic blogger who claims to know Palin personally for many years - when Palin ran for Governor, the GOP actually openly supported and even threw fund raisers for the Democrat candidate running against Palin. As a result, Palin had so little $ in her campaign fund that she had to be very frugal in how many ads she could afford to run. Interesting, yes? proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her.
Yeah, she has shown she is not afraid to take on the establishment. The more I hear about her the more I like her.
God is always good!
yes, indeed. good find, scrap. as an aside, i still have problems with Ron Paul's "I'm a republican and I will always be a republican." i wish he'd denounce that damn party.
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Fyi...something for you to think about since you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid - I think I covered your laundry list criticisms about Palin. You might want to pay particular attention to points #4 and #5 as listed below. proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her.
I think Dr. Paul is still hopeful that his GOP party of bygone years - before it was polluted and high-jacked by the RINO's and the neocons - will return. Dr. Paul is a GOP person - he's not a Dem, that's for sure, and I don't think he's a Libertarian or Greenie. I think he identifies strongly with what were once the principles of the GOP and that's why he continues to carry the R after his name.
I didn't suggest that Ms. Palin was an insider. On the contrary, I stated that, in my view, she is a prop for McCain's campaign - she is being used by McCain because McCain believes that he needs another woman to get some of Hillary's '18 million' - his advisers are probably watching too much cable television. To the extent that she agrees to play ball and allow herself to be used by the McCains as a prop, she is guilty. If she doesn't realize that she's being used as a prop, then maybe she's dumber than W. To clarify the 'insider' comment. I stated that she is in the process of being assimilated and she seems to be cooperating. Final observation: for her to call the VP job 'an opportunity' and 'a challenge' is, should I say, not proper. Let's all agree that the purpose of her being the VP candidate is not her personal growth or even that of destroying the imaginary glass ceiling.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Palin has expressed support for McCain's foreign policy agenda. That should be enough for anyone here to write her off immediately.
I agree with that statement. I have no reason to dislike her either. Maybe the time will come when I do but not now.
Just because you know the lady and have more than passing knowledge of her work does NOT mean that Vast sitting behind his puter does not know her better than you. If vast says she is evil and or stupid then he has to be right. Being a Cynic I will take your word for it.
And then there is the little matter of.......if she is so against all that 'evil' corruption, blah blah, that was permeating Alaska's political scene, why in the world would she align herself with one of the infamous Keating Five scoundrels? Could this mean there is ever the slighest possibility that 'corruption' or 'evil' is in the eye of the beholder--that perhaps she really doesn't believe she did anything wrong IF IN FACT she make calls, etc., regarding firing the state trooper. While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie. At least not in my book.
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At least not in my book. Agree. We'll just have to see how the 'CommissionerGate' matter is resolved. Most all govs at the highest levels have corruption and cronyism to greater, or lesser extent. And AK sounds pretty bad. Maybe that's why SP's approval ratings are 70-90 percent favorable from the populace.
A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.
a. Here's an article from an Alaska newspaper - middle of the road perspective - that gives a bit of an overview about state trooper Wooten and the Sarah Palin controversy. www.newsminer.com/news/20...raises-conduct-questions/ "Scrutiny of Wooten raises conduct questions" 07/28/08 b. Here's something from the Wash Post - left wing MSM perspective www.washingtonpost.com/wp...598.html?nav=rss_politics "Palin Focus of Probe In Police Chief's Firing" 08/30/08 c. Here's a timeline of the events along with various embedded links to outside sources - right wing perspective www.floppingaces.net/2008...distortions-to-the-truth/ "Palin’s Trooper’Gate: Beating MSM distortions to the truth" 08/29/08 ***Take your pick which perspective tells the full story.****
But I think you knew that, didn't you, vast? McCain and Obama are both anti-America. But in terms of chess, McCain's the better player. Always nice to see a check in a debate (to keep it on target) in so few moves once in awhile.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Am reading each link.......and will post a comment probably regarding each, individually. The newsminer link: Trooper married and divorced 4x and he is only 35 years old. Holy batsheet! Factor that in with all the other little 'problems' he has, like drinking in squad car, speeding tickets, threatening to put some lead into his FIL if he helps his daughter get an attorney for a divorce, and tasering his kid......sounds like she should have stepped in and demanded the guy get axed before the state of AK has to paya bigtime when the guy goes 'postal' and does some really bad sheet! On to the next one......
Have you found anything that disputes what this Catholic blogger says about Palin? I'm sure it would be easy for you to double check the veracity of the blogger's major points. Here let me make it easy for you to point out anything you believe are falsehoods - I'll repost the blogger's remarks - go for it! - just because the statements are made by an "anonymous" blogger as you say, it does not mea that her points are invalid. I've read many many many signed articles in MSM and facts have been omitted from their stories, bias is obvious, and so called "facts" are half-truths. Just because a reporter's name is provided does not guarantee truth. proecclesia.blogspot.com/...c-mom-sarah-palin-by.html My husband and I volunteered on Palin’s Alaska campaign when she ran for Governor. Here are a few of my thoughts: First: I have known Sarah Palin for years. How? I met her through AK Right to Life. She always came to our fund-raising dinners, she always came to pro-life events (even when she took time off from politics to be home with her children), and one of her kids became AK RTL’s baby mascot for our stationery. She is the real deal when it comes to pro-life matters. This became even more clear when at the age of 44 of this year, she gave birth to a baby with Down’s Syndrome. BTW: No one knew she was pregnant until 1 month before giving birth! Second: She worked under previous (Catholic-pro-life) Governor Frank Murkowski’s Admin and ended up resigning because the corruption was so blatant and so bad she could not effect change. She gave up her 6 figure income to do so. This catapulted her into stardom for Alaskans. Third: When she ran for Governor, she was up against the incumbent Murkowski (the least popular Governor in the nation at the time) AND against two-time former super popula,r Governor Democrat Tony Knowles. Husband and I both had deep respect for her so we decided to join her campaign. We were not the only ones. I have worked many a campaign before and this was the first time in my experience where normal, average, non-partisan types joined the campaign. When I decided to wave signs for her on street corners (with my baby strapped on my back), I was blown away by the hundreds of other Alaskans who had the same idea. Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State. Fifth: I worked the polls on voting day and Democrats, Independents and non-voters alike came to vote for her. Radical Catholic Mom is originally from Idaho, but lives in Alaska and loves it. She graduated from the University of Dallas with a degree in English Literature with a Spanish concentration and an emphasis in Theology. Her real learning came during and after college when she volunteered for short term and long term missions throughout the Southern US and Latin America. She is married to a wonderful Catholic man and the proud stay at home momma of two children, one on Earth and one in Heaven. Her passion is pro-life issues and all other Catholic Social Justice issues. She is also a convert to Catholicism from Lutheranism. She blogs at Radical Catholic Mom. Fyi, Radical Catholic Mom's entry above was published in Vox-Nova. Here's the info about the site - it's not what one might consider a GOP propaganda site.
Exactly my impression of the situation. Wondering if this rogue cop served in Desert Storm...
A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.
washingtonpost: typical; nothing new other than putting it out there that her husband and a PI took a dossier to Monegan--easily explained as concern and fear for the family....after all, this is the governors family which is being threatened. I'd like to hear from others that heard her try to talk to this Monegan and he held her at arms' length saying he could talk to hubby but not her.
Won't bother reading some blog.......especially the right-wing variety---I'm sick to death of the michelle malkin types in this world, for example. Just as the dems would not convict billyjeff for murder on the steps of the WH in broadday light, with all 3 major networks filming, the right would be equally as determined. Says a lot about the two=headed monster of the one-party system in this nation, doesn't it.
The article says he was in the air force; and further that he was on what would generally be called a 'swat' team==at least for some time- up in AK. Tell ya what, I'm not particularly interested in having a cop/police/whatever that is fresh out of or a recent retiree of the military. Military service used to mean something special to me.......now I just essentially see them as another life form of the BAFT and FBI and CIA lying murderers, thieves, and whatnot.
Things have done a 180 from when we were growing up.
A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.
She seems very nice. Too bad she's associated with McCain. Doesn't look good on her. Guilt by association.
I didn't write that line, angle just referred to it. But, the level of vitriol and nitpicking thrown at Sarah is telling. why are all the CNNMSNBC blowhards and the "reporters" throwing the kitchen sink at her. McCain - Queen to Obama's Rook!
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#207. To: angle (#206)
Your best argument for McCain/Katherine Harris wannabe is that I'm an Obama supporter? I'm not, so you'll have to do better.
#208. To: scrapper2 (#207)
#209. To: scrapper2, lodwick (#207)
#210. To: angle (#209)
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#211. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#210)
#212. To: angle (#211)
Palin's Buchanan Problem
#213. To: angle (#211)
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#214. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#213)
#215. To: angle (#209)
You like her and McCain...then vote for them. If they win, you deserve more of what's coming down the road. Same with the Obama people.
#216. To: scrapper2 (#215)
#217. To: wudidiz (#203)
#218. To: buckeye (#216)
She's probably Irish.
#219. To: buckeye (#216)
She's probably Irish.
#220. To: scrapper2, RickyJ (#218)
#221. To: scrapper2 (#215)
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At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly.
#222. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#221)
#223. To: buckeye, angle, christine, rowdee, Ricky J, lodwick, wudidiz, Rupert_Pupkin, All (#216)
#224. To: scrapper2 (#223)
Fourth: When she ran for Governor, the AK Republican Party threw fundraisers for Palin’s Democratic rival! No joke! They hated her because she was the one who blew the whistle on their corruption. Big Oil hates her because she refused and refuses to be bribed. She had very little campaign money and her very few tv ads always said “Frugally paid for by the Palin Campaign.” Yet, she won, sweeping the State.
#225. To: scrapper2, Cynicom, angle, Rupert_Pupkin, Esso, Jethro Tull, lodwick, all (#223)
when Palin ran for Governor, the GOP actually openly supported and even threw fund raisers for the Democrat candidate running against Palin. As a result, Palin had so little $ in her campaign fund that she had to be very frugal in how many ads she could afford to run. Interesting, yes?
#226. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#223)
#227. To: christine (#225)
as an aside, i still have problems with Ron Paul's "I'm a republican and I will always be a republican." i wish he'd denounce that damn party.
#228. To: scrapper2 (#226)
#229. To: scrapper2 (#226)
Fyi...something for you to think about since you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid - I think I covered your laundry list criticisms about Palin
#230. To: scrapper2 (#215)
At this point I have no reason to dislike her. I don't know enough about Palin's politics yet to reach any conclusion frankly
#231. To: scrapper2, a vast rightwing conspirator (#226)
you're all fired up convinced that Palin is a prop, an insider, evil or stupid -
#232. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#229)
#233. To: christine (#225)
yes, indeed. good find, scrap.
#234. To: rowdee (#232)
While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie.
#235. To: rowdee, lodwick, christine (#232)
Could this mean there is ever the slighest possibility that 'corruption' or 'evil' is in the eye of the beholder--that perhaps she really doesn't believe she did anything wrong IF IN FACT she make calls, etc., regarding firing the state trooper. While as governor she may have the right to hire and fire, but she doesn't have the right to lie.
#236. To: scrapper2 (#10)
Well duh, Andrea. Palin is a GOVERNOR - ie she is a manager, and a gorgeous one at that unlike Put a bag on her Head Andrea. McCain picked Palin to cover his own Senator for Life weakness ie. lack of managerial experience. When McCain criticized Obama for lack of experience, he was criticizing Obama for being inexperienced in federal politics as compared to himself - he was comparing his Senatorial experience to Obama's Senatorial experience.
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#237. To: scrapper2 (#235)
#238. To: angle, christine (#233)
an anonymous blog
#239. To: rowdee. all (#237)
sounds like she should have stepped in and demanded the guy get axed before the state of AK has to paya bigtime when the guy goes 'postal' and does some really bad sheet!
#240. To: scrapper2 (#235)
#241. To: scrapper2 (#235)
#242. To: lodwick (#239)
#243. To: rowdee (#242)
Military service used to mean something special to me.......now I just essentially see them as another life form of the BAFT and FBI and CIA lying murderers, thieves, and whatnot.
#244. To: scrapper2, all (#223)
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation." ~ Herbert Spencer
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