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Title: Sarah Palin Says She Open To Teaching Creationism In Public Schools (says teach both)
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URL Source: http://www.boston.com/news/local/ar ... th/2008/08/sarah_palin_on.html
Published: Aug 29, 2008
Author: Michael Paulsen
Post Date: 2008-08-29 20:47:10 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 456
Comments: 31

John McCain's vice-presidential pick, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, is an evangelical Protestant with a strong record of opposition to abortion and an openness to teaching creationism in the public schools.

Palin is the mother of five children, one of whom was born with Down Syndrome. She learned that her son had Down Syndrome when she was four months pregnant, and she told the Associated Press in May that she never considered ending the pregnancy. "We've both been very vocal about being pro-life," she said in the AP interview. "We understand that every innocent life has wonderful potential." Palin also said of her son, whose name is Trig Paxon Van Palin, "I'm looking at him right now, and I see perfection. Yeah, he has an extra chromosome. I keep thinking, in our world, what is normal and what is perfect?"

In October of 2006, the Anchorage Daily News described Palin's positions on social issues in a lengthy profile:

"A significant part of Palin's base of support lies among social and Christian conservatives. Her positions on social issues emerged slowly during the campaign: on abortion (should be banned for anything other than saving the life of the mother), stem cell research (opposed), physician-assisted suicide (opposed), creationism (should be discussed in schools), state health benefits for same-sex partners (opposed, and supports a constitutional amendment to bar them)." And earlier that year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that Palin said the following about creationism at a debate:

"Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information....Healthy debate is so important and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject -- creationism and evolution. It's been a healthy foundation for me. But don't be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides." Palin identifies herself as a Christian; she headed her high school's Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Here's a bit more detail on her faith life from the Anchorage Daily News:

"Palin's parents say they are not political and don't know how she decided to turn her ambition and work ethic toward politics. Her Christian faith, they say, came from her mother, who took her children to area Bible churches as they were growing up (Sarah is the third of four siblings). They say her faith has been steady since high school, when she led the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and grew stronger as she sought out believers in her college years. Palin doesn't brandish her religion on the campaign trail, but that doesn't prevent others from doing so. After she was first elected mayor, her predecessor, John Stein, objected that a Valley cable TV program had hailed her as Wasilla's first 'Christian mayor.' In a column for the local newspaper, he named eight previous mayors and added that he, too, was a Christian, despite a name that led some voters to suspect 'I must be a non-Christian, have non-Christian blood or at least have sympathized with a non-Christian sometime in my career.'"

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#4. To: christine (#0)

By all means, teach both.

Creationism takes 15 seconds and one sentence.

mirage  posted on  2008-08-29   21:54:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mirage, angle (#4) (Edited)

By all means, teach both.

Creationism takes 15 seconds and one sentence.

If you want to teach Creationism, be fair about equal time.

Why give special privilege to the creation myth of the Jews? Why not give "equal time" to the creation myths of Vikings, Ancient Greeks, Hindus, Buddhists, Navajo Indians, etc? If you reject the scientific account of how the universe and life began and want to throw all of modern cosmology, geology, and biology out the window, then all of these alternatives are equally good working hypotheses. I demand equal time for Ragnarok!

If you're going to teach myths and fairy tales in science class, why stop at the myths and fairy tales of 3000 year old Middle Eastern goatherds? Teach 1001 Nights in history classes while you're at it.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-30   11:30:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#12)

If you reject the scientific account of how the universe and life began

That is in the past. There is no "scientific method to test the past. However if you take into account the people who were there and look at what they said. It is pretty convincing. The people who WERE THERE said there was a worldwide flood. They said it covered the entire earth. Now this is where the science comes in. If true what would you expect to find. Answer: billions of dead things buried im mud laid down by water all over the earth. That is in fact what you find. The evilutionist propagandist god haters will literally grasp as straws to try and avoid being held accountable to God. They will make up stories and all kinds of bullshit. They made up this thing that creatures will mutate into other creatures and become different life forms. The only problem with this theory is it doesn't happen in real life. Not one example of it ever happening. The creation model is much more scientific and makes a whole lot more sense. It is sad that you put on welding glasses when you looked for proof.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-08-30   12:17:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Old Friend (#19) (Edited)

The creation model is much more scientific and makes a whole lot more sense. It is sad that you put on welding glasses when you looked for proof.

Someone waving a magic wand is not a "scientific" explanation for anything.

The people who WERE THERE said there was a worldwide flood. They said it covered the entire earth. Now this is where the science comes in. If true what would you expect to find. Answer: billions of dead things buried im mud laid down by water all over the earth.

So why do the lowest sediments only contain microbes, the sediments above thos invertebrates but no vertebrates, those above that only fish but no higher forms, while the youngest sediments have mammals? You'd think that if there was only one flood 6000 years ago, you'd find dinosaurs, trilobites, and people in the same sediments. But don't let reason get in the way of Biblical dogma.

If you want to use a book of Jewish myths as a science textbook, have at it. Just like if somebody wants to worship Odin or the Navajo sky God, that's their business.

But whose views belong in a science classroom: chemists who tell us that heavy potassium and uranium have a half life in the hundreds of millions of years, or Bible thumpers who tell me that world is 5000 years old? What belongs in a physics class, the work astronomers and physicists who measure redshift in the universe and background radiation, or the myths of Middle Eastern goat herders?

The people who WERE THERE said there was a worldwide flood

Homer tells us that there are Cyclopses in caves off the coast of Greece. Should I go looking for Cyclopses because an ancient Greek says so in his myths and legends? That's the reasoning that Bible thumpers use: they assume that their book of myths is historical record and scientific truth, and procede from there.

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#24. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#22)

What came first the chicken or the egg?

Oh and grass. How did it evolve? One blade at a time?

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