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Title: Bob Barr Wins Texas!
Source: Blogcritics Magazine
URL Source: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/08/28/222759.php
Published: Aug 28, 2008
Author: Dave Nalle
Post Date: 2008-08-30 03:31:31 by Rube Goldberg
Keywords: None
Views: 260
Comments: 21

Bob Barr Wins Texas! Written by Dave Nalle Published August 28, 2008

In a surprising development, it appears that scrappy little Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr may have essentially won the presidential election in Texas by default. It seems that the two major parties failed to file their candidate selections with the Secretary of State by the statutory deadline, with the result that by law they cannot appear on the ballot, even as write-ins. In a press release on Wednesday Barr's campaign manager, Russell Verney said: "Unless the state of Texas violates its own election laws, Congressman Barr will be the only presidential candidate on the ballot...Texas law makes no exceptions for missing deadlines."

It seems like an extraordinary oversight to fail to register your candidates in the state with the second-most electoral votes (34), but apparently circumstances conspired against Obama and McCain. First, the nominating conventions were held much later than usual this year, so candidates were not formally selected before the deadline. Second, in 2005, after the last presidential election, the Texas legislature changed the filing deadline from 60 days in advance of the election date, to 70 days in advance of the election date. To be eligible, the candidates would have had to file by August 26th, a deadline which they appear not to have met.

This assumes that the information from the Barr campaign is correct. The Texas Secretary of State is not required to certify the filings until 8 days after the filing deadline, so the official list of candidates may not be an accurate source of information. I have a call in to the Secretary of State's office to confirm that the two major candidates did not file by the deadline. However, the Barr campaign was reachable, and their Media Coordinator told me that they had talked to the Secretary of State and verified the situation, so it sounds legitimate.

Obviously, the Democratic and Republican parties in Texas will do everything they can to straighten out this mess, and they have a reasonable argument that the deadline was unfair, since their candidates weren't even officially selected in time to file. If they go to court they can probably win a change on that basis, and the Barr campaign does not intend to oppose their efforts to get on the ballot, because they believe that more choices work to the benefit of the voters.

This situation does raise important questions about the issue of ballot access and unreasonable measures taken by some states against third party and independent candidates. As events unfold in Texas, the Barr campaign has been fighting for ballot access in a number of states, including states with strong Libertarian constituencies, like West Virginia and Maine which have very early election deadlines or extremely challenging filing requirements, usually requiring huge numbers of voter signatures. Barr is currently on the ballot in 41 states and expects eventually to be listed in 48 states, at considerable expense, and after filing lawsuits in several cases.

As usual, the Libertarian Party will be on the ballot in more states than any other third party, and will be running far more more local candidates than anyone but the two big parties. Barr is currently polling at 6% nationwide, and in double digits in some states, according to the latest Zogby poll. That a party and candidate with this much support should be having trouble getting on the ballot in many states, and will likely not be included in any of the presidential debates, raises serious concerns about the stranglehold which the two incumbent parties have on the electoral process.

The bizarre situation in Texas ought to be sending us all a message. If the major parties can't even file properly under their own electoral rules, then perhaps it's time to make those rules more reasonable and open up the electoral process to give the people more of a voice.

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#1. To: Rube Goldberg (#0)

it appears that scrappy little Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr may have essentially won the presidential election in Texas by default. It seems that the two major parties failed to file their candidate selections with the Secretary of State by the statutory deadline, with the result that by law they cannot appear on the ballot, even as write-ins.

I don't like the word "default" personally, but hey a win is a win.

Obviously the 2 fraud parties are so over-confident they did not bother to do the paperwork. I very much doubt that they "forgot."

scrapper2  posted on  2008-08-30   3:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: scrapper2 (#1)

I don't like the word "default" personally, but hey a win is a win.

That's what LBJ, Nixon, Ford and Bush said !

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

noone222  posted on  2008-08-30   3:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rube Goldberg (#0) (Edited)

I expect the TX legislature would step in and amend the laws as needed in time for Nov.

But Barr shouldn't take the "high road" and welcome them on the ballot in violation of state law. 3rd parties are already discriminated against, and he should use it to max advantage to illustrate that.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-08-30   4:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rube Goldberg, *libertarians* (#0)

PING

http://s5.gladiatus.us/game/c.php?uid=77290

freepatriot32  posted on  2008-08-30   5:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#2)

That's what LBJ, Nixon, Ford and Bush said !

Nixon -- did you mean Kennedy in '60?

Ford -- His congressional seat? He never won anything else that I am aware of.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-08-30   9:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rube Goldberg. Texas voters here (#0)

The TX SOS website shows McCain/Palin, BHO/Biden, and Barr as the three choices as of five minutes ago...the office will reopen Tuesday.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-30   10:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine, lodwick (#0)

"Unless the state of Texas violates its own election laws, Congressman Barr will be the only presidential candidate on the ballot...Texas law makes no exceptions for missing deadlines."

If Israel's candidates aren't allowed on the Texas ballot, the most likely result would be a nuclear attack on Austin by Tel Aviv.

Not to worry, though, some nice jooish judge will get this squared away for his homeland. Texas law doesn't apply to the chosen.

Esso  posted on  2008-08-30   10:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso. all (#7)

I heard this blurb a few minutes ago on a repeat of the PowerHour, and decided to go to the SOS's website to see what they had.

Even as screwed-up as things are here, there is no way that the D's and R's will not be on the November ballot.

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-30   10:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rube Goldberg (#0) (Edited)

Here is what the Texas Election Code says:

"§ 192.031. PARTY CANDIDATE'S ENTITLEMENT TO PLACE ON BALLOT. A political party is entitled to have the names of its nominees for president and vice-president of the United States placed on the ballot in a presidential general election if: (1) the nominees possess the qualifications for those offices prescribed by federal law; (2) before 5 p.m. of the 70th day before presidential election day, the party's state chair signs and delivers to the secretary of state a written certification of: (A) the names of the party's nominees for president and vice-president"

"§ 192.033. CERTIFICATION OF CANDIDATES FOR PLACEMENT ON BALLOT. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (c), the secretary of state shall certify in writing for placement on the general election ballot the names of the candidates for president and vice-president who are entitled to have their names placed on the ballot."

It's quite clear that a political party's state chair must certify the party's presidential nominee in writing to the SOS before 5pm of the 70th day prior to the presidential election day. It's also clear the SOS is responsible for certifying the presidential candidates on the state-wide ballot.

Now if either or both party's state chairs certified their respective party's presidential candidates to the SOS "in time", either or both would have violated the election code, falsified a govt document, and possibly more, since neither party held their national conventions prior to 70 days before the general election day this year.

If the state chairs didn't file such documents in time, it still doesn't matter, the SOS is ultimately responsible for certifying the candidates on the ballot and making sure the candidates are entitled to be on the ballot according to state law. The bottom line is neither political party held their national conventions prior to 70 days before the general election so neither party is entitled to have their nominee placed as a candidate on the ballot in Texas.

We intend to demand both parties' state chairs' certification documents from the SOS. If either party's state chair actually filed "in time", criminal charges will be filed against that party's state chair for falsifying a government document. There is no way either chair could have filed in truth before the 70 day cutoff time since neither party's national convention was held in time.

If the Secretary of State has certified either party's "nominee" either with or without certification filings of a party's state chair, the secretary of state is in violation of law. The reason is that both parties' conventions were held too late to nominate candidates to be eligible on the Texas ballot. In either case criminal charges will be filed against the secretary of state if he has certified either party's nominee. Remember, the Republican Party's nominee DOES NOT EVEN EXIST YET since the Republican Convention has NOT EVEN HAPPENED YET.

Petitions for court injunctions will be filed to prohibit the secretary of state from certifying either party's nominee on the Texas ballot due to clear and obvious ineligibility.

This is not a technicality of paperwork. We are talking about the scheduling of national conventions of both major political parties in a presidential election year. Convention centers, hotels, security, catering, limos, media coverage, Lord knows what else is involved in booking months if not years in advance and paying for it. The fact that these parties did not research the requirements of election law in every state before scheduling these conventions is no minor technicality to be overlooked. Our State's law will not be treated flippantly by political parties or the feds. I suggest and hope all who love freedom and liberty research their own state statutes and stand up to tyranny.

ThreeShoesPosse  posted on  2008-08-30   11:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: scrapper2 (#1) (Edited)

Obviously the 2 fraud parties are so over-confident they did not bother to do the paperwork. I very much doubt that they "forgot."

Nor will they be held accountable for such a "technicality." You know and I know that Obummer and Mad Dog will still be on the ballot. Now, if the Libertarian, Green, or Constitution Party made the same mistake, they'd be disqualified.

Don't you love our system?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-08-30   11:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ThreeShoesPosse, all (#9)

We intend to demand both parties' state chairs' certification documents from the SOS. If either party's state chair actually filed "in time", criminal charges will be filed against that party's state chair for falsifying a government document. There is no way either chair could have filed in truth before the 70 day cutoff time since neither party's national convention was held in time.

If the Secretary of State has certified either party's "nominee" either with or without certification filings of the party's state chair, the secretary of state is in violation of law. The reason is that both parties' conventions were held too late to nominate candidates to be eligible on the Texas ballot. In either case criminal charges will be filed against the secretary of state if he has certified either party's nominee. Remember, the Republican Party's nominee DOES NOT EVEN EXIST YET since the Republican Convention has NOT EVEN HAPPENED YET.

Petitions for court injunctions will be filed to prohibit the secretary of state from certifying either party's nominee on the Texas ballot due to clear and obvious ineligibility.

hi deb, please keep us apprised of your meeting with the SOS. this should be interesting.

All, fyi, Deborah is co-host of The Rule of Law radio show on the WeThePeople radio network.

The Rule Of Law Hosts: Randy Kelton & Deborah Stevens Website:www.ruleoflawradio.com www.jurisimprudence.com

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-30   11:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ThreeShoesPosse, Artisan, ALL (#9)

This is not a technicality of paperwork. We are talking about the scheduling of national conventions of both major political parties in a presidential election year. Convention centers, hotels, security, catering, limos, media coverage, Lord knows what else is involved in booking months if not years in advance and paying for it. The fact that these parties did not research the requirements of election law in every state before scheduling these conventions is no minor technicality to be overlooked. Our State's law will not be treated flippantly by political parties or the feds. I suggest and hope all who love freedom and liberty research their own state statutes and stand up to tyranny.

BTTT

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-30   11:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine, Original_Intent, lodwick, Rotara (#12)

What are the odds that it won't make a hill of beans?


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-08-30   12:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: farmfriend (#13)

What are the odds that it won't make a hill of beans?

Tough to believe that they would disenfranchise an entire state.

The lege may be scrambling around this weekend to find a 'solution.'

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-30   12:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: DeaconBenjamin (#5)

That's what LBJ, Nixon, Ford and Bush said !

LBJ, Nixon, Ford and Bush either helped default (murder) Kennedy or assisted in the cover up.

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

noone222  posted on  2008-08-30   18:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#13)

What are the odds that it won't make a hill of beans?

Slim to None.

Esso  posted on  2008-08-30   18:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rube Goldberg (#0)

Actually the democrats would love this. It would all but ensure McCain lost.

Rhino369  posted on  2008-08-30   18:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine, ThreeShoesPosse, all (#11)

In the case of the two party fraud, there is no rule of law. They do what they want, when they want, to whomever they want. They are above the law because they control those who decide what is and what is not legal. The American people seem to like it this way because they continue to vote for the same criminals over and over and over again.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-08-30   23:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Hayek Fan (#18)

We'll have to wait until Tuesday to see what the SOS here has to say about this 'glitch.'

Or, they might throw it to the AG's office to decide.

Hell, maybe directly up to the SCOTUS.

Who knows?

A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-08-30   23:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Hayek Fan, ThreeShoesPosse (#18)

Deborah and Randy are planning to go to the SOS's office on Tuesday. They plan on filing a court injunction which will prohibit the SOS from illegal certification. I can't wait to hear about the reaction they get from Mr. SOS even if it goes no further.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-08-30   23:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#20)

Deborah and Randy are planning to go to the SOS's office on Tuesday. They plan on filing a court injunction which will prohibit the SOS from illegal certification. I can't wait to hear about the reaction they get from Mr. SOS even if it goes no further.

I'm wayyyy to cynical to believe anything will come of it. I cannot imagine a situation in which members of the two party fraud at any level of government are going to allow their party to lose the votes of one of the largest States in the empire.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-08-30   23:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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