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Title: McCain/Palin vs. Obama/Biden - how they compare academically
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Published: Aug 31, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-08-31 00:08:49 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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- Bachelors of Arts in Sports Journalism from Idaho.
- Bachelors from Naval Academy rank 5th from the bottom of his class of 800.
- BA University of Delaware in both History and Political Science.
- Juris Doctor (JD) from Syracuse University College of Law.
- BA in International Relations form Columbia University.
- Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude from Harvard in 1991. (That’s top of his class at arguably the best school in the country/world.) While at Harvard he was also president of the Harvard Law Review.
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#7. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
Did The Obamas Benefit From Affirmative Action? ...in the ZERO SUM GAME of admissions to Harvard Law Review, not all Harvard Law magna cum laude students are able to attain membership. Being magna cum laude may be a minimal qualification for Harvard Law Review. Not all HLS students, who are magna cum laude, are admitted to Harvard Law Review, because of the limited number of spots available. If one is black, and a magna cum laude, one IS GIVEN A RACIAL PREFERENCE OVER OTHER non-black and non-preferred higher ranked students (whites/Asians) who are even summa cum laude students or other higher ranked magna cum laude students. On the average, these higher ranked summa cum laude white/Asian students at Harvard Law, who were denied admission into Harvard Law Review, were displaced by the lower ranked black magna cum laude Harvard Law students, such as Obama, with the use of racial preferences for admissions into Harvard Law Review, thereby tainting the admissions process into Harvard Law Review for honor Harvard Law students. Admissions into Harvard Law Review and being "qualified" are all relative. For one of any race and ethnicity, being magna cum laude at Harvard Law School may be a minimal qualification for membership into Harvard Law Review. Being black and magna cum at Harvard Law School is WORTH MORE than being non-black and a member of a non-preferred racial group (white/Asian) in the ZERO SUM game of admissions into Harvard Law Review. 2007 Harvard Law Review Membership Selection Policies Excerpts: “In recent years, the number of students completing the competition has ranged from 200 to 255. Between 41 and 43 students are invited to join the Review each year.” "Fourteen editors (two from each 1L section) are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Twenty editors are selected based solely on their competition scores. The remaining editors are selected on a discretionary basis. Some of these discretionary slots may be used to implement the Review's affirmative action policy." AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION POLICY AND A DISCRETIONARY BASIS ARE USED FOR BLACKS GIVING THEM PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT BASED SOLELY ON SKIN COLOR IN THEIR ADMISSIONS TO HARVARD LAW REVIEW. This means the whole selection process is TAINTED, because selection is based on race with de facto racial quotas. Again, Obama was magna cum laude, but SO WHAT? There are many magna cum laude and summa cum laude whites and Asians, who were more qualified and were denied admissions to Law Review in this ZERO SUM GAME based on race preferences. The ONLY WAY to erase these doubts that the readers/posters have is to ELIMINATE the policy of race preferences in admissions to Harvard Law Review. The selection process is absolutely LUDICROUS!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. That used to be the designation of the top student or students. It still is. My niece graduated summa cum laude from high school and she makes the Dean's list just about every time it comes out in college. Yet, because she is white, she would be at a disadvantage over someone like Obama who got where he is because of idiotic affirmative action policies created by people who are eaten up with guilt over being white.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Obama may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but at least he is a knife. I consider the Chimperor to be a fork and he has "forked us over" to such an extent we will now be a Third World country. He received his own sort of affirmative action by being the scion of a longtime investment banking/political crime family which had influence with those Ivy League schools. And there's nothing even the sharpest knife can do about it. All any U.S. President can do at this point is end civilization in a global thermonuclear exchange in an attempt to do a "reset" of the global system.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Might be interesting if we could see "who" is wielding the dull knife?
After hearing him trying to make a speech without a script and a teleprompter I think that could be the understatement of the week.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. One would think that whoever sprung this "knife" on us would have found a sharper one. Of course, black knives are rare. Take what you can get.
From the "Believe it or not" category: Is Obama's IQ The Highest Certified Of Any President Ever? Here's another study of all presidents and their IQs: Study from U of Washington reveals IQs from 42 US Presidents
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Summa Cum Laude (what I got) is, at Harvard, for people with a 3.5 GPA or above. FWIW, four generations of family have attended or taught at Harvard.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
I have a good IQ and people here tell me how stupid I am.. So, just perhaps IQ and or education is not really the most prominent factors as prerequisites for President. Wilson was a lifetime academic,college professor, and a total failure as a man and as a President.
Actually, not. Affirmative Action taints the whole process. We don't know if Obama actually qualified to get into Harvard or not. Also, Affirmative Action works its way into the grading process at Harvard so we also don't know if that had anything to do with his GPA or not. A 3.3 GPA doesn't impress me. Heck, it doesn't even beat ME, so by that standard, Obama isn't brighter than I am. If Obama had real management or executive experience, I'd be impressed. He has none. Zip, zero, nada, none. Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined and therefore is more qualified for President than Obama is, if you want to go down that road. Heck, I'm more qualified than Obama based on a resume' of management and executive experience and I'm a decade younger than he is. USNA is also harder just to get into than Harvard is since each graduating class is only 1000 persons.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
It's not worth much at all to the GOP base. Even the Chimp, who got an MBA from Harvard, afterwards joined the chorus of GOPers denigrating the "elitist" Ivy League. It makes you wonder why he went to Yale and Harvard to begin with. He must really hate himself. Either that or Poppy made him go. If the latter, it gave him another reason to despise the old man.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Ivy League schools do this thing called "legacy admissions" where if you're the child/grandchild of a graduate, they grease the wheels for you to slide in. They do the same thing at Rice University down in Texas and several others. You can also just flat-out buy a seat if you really want one, at least at Harvard. I don't know about Yale. At Chez Mirage, we're allergic to Yalies. They also do some serious Affirmative Action tweaking over there so if you're black, female, or any other "minority", an Ivy League admission can be discounted because the standards are lowered by a VERY significant amount. USNA also does legacy admissions, but you still have to get a Congresscritter to sponsor you.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
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imo, a high EQ is every bit as important to success in life, if not moreso, than a high IQ. Emotional Intelligence (EI), often measured as an Emotional Intelligence Quotient (EQ), describes an ability, capacity, or skill to perceive, assess, and manage the emotions of one's self, of others, and of groups.
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Agreed here.
All the academies are pretty much political appointments where congresscritters get recommendations from the various high schools regarding kids that the teachers believe would continue to be good students and leaders. Since the 'nam was beginning to roll in '65, I took a pass on the academies.
A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.
McCain only got into USNA because his father and grandfather were admirals. Just like Obama only got into Harvard Law school thanks to affirmative action, and Dumbya got into Yale and Harvard business school thanks to his father and grandfather's wealth, power, and connections. None of these guys are exactly great talents who made it in life through merit or personal achievement.
Did Sarah Palin pull favors to get into an ivy league school? No she is regular folk and that is refreshing.
This choice of McSame speaks loudly of his own selfishness and fundamental frivolousness. You are foolish if you believe that Palin’s “inexperience” and Obama’s “inexperience” are equivalent. Obama is quite obviously an impressive man with extraordinary qualities of organization, discipline and leadership. I see nothing in Palin’s record to suggest that she has any such qualities. He is a man who has spent his adult life thinking serious thoughts about serious issues and having serious conversations about them with other serious, well-informed people; while Palin quite as clearly has done none of those things. He was the president of the Harvard Law Review; she was the point guard on her high school basketball team. He has surrounded himself in his campaign with world-class people; and, I doubt that she has even met a half-dozen world-class people in her lifetime. I am confident that Obama will surround himself with experienced, informed, competent advisors and that he would make no world-destroying blunders. I cannot say the same about Palin and, in view of what this choice reveals about McCain’s character and judgment, I cannot say the same of him either.
This choice says much more about McCain than it does about Palin, What it says about McCain is that he is more interested in politics than policy, more interested in campaigning than governing, tactical when he should be strategic, and reckless when he should be considered. He is as big a gamble as president as Palin is as vice-president. This decision was about gut, about politics, about cynicism, and about vanity. It's just like something Bush would do.
Obama had a chance to vote for a corruption bill but he passed. Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she will fight corruption in her own party. You seem kind of snobby looking down on her accomplishments. It makes you look anti woman. I'm not saying you are anti woman. I'm just saying your comments would be perceived that way. What has Obama accomplished while in the senate? Zip, nada, nothing. He just goes around the country giving speeches that I must admit are pretty good. He will not end the war in Iraq. He said that he couldn't guarantee that by the end of his first term troops would be gone. I think you are projecting what you want Obama to be on him. Something he is not. We conservatives are also probably doing the same with Sarah. But at least she is gunuine common folk.
And for political expediency he still comes out in favor of murdering babies in the womb or out of the womb.
The choice is similar to Obama's father insisting on calling his tramp mother Sidney.
But he knew so little about the constitution that he thinks there is no second amendment. He also believes in the pretend right to murder your children.
Elitist drivel. Obama wouldn't give someone like you the time of day. Sarah is common folk just like you.
Palin has said that she thinks the second amendment relates to sportsmen. She even thinks the NRA fights for our second amendment rights.
And he's campaigned in all 57 states...
A nation of idiots, ruled by moronic tyrants.
He is as big a gamble as president as Palin is as vice-president. This decision was about gut, about politics, about cynicism, and about vanity. It's just like something Bush would do. Be truthful Mike. Her pick worries you guys on the left doesn't it. You can see her resonating with the American people. That is why you try to tear her down when you know so little about her. It will backfire. You folks will say she is against abortion (not you in particular but the democratic party). That will make the base happy. Many women who wouldn't have voted for McCain will now vote for him. I think it is checkmate.
We'll see over time if this selection "has legs." So far, so good.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
It does relate to sportsmen. But did she say it isn't to defend yourself against tyrannical government. If you find something like that I would be happy to consider it. The NRA isn't perfect for sure. But they do some good fighting for the second amendment. Not enough but it is better then none.
The NRA is false opposition. If you don't know that, then it explains how you've fallen for this Christian Zionist.
Maybe he thought Indonesia was a state. And that place in Africa that his father was from. That would make 52. I wonder what the other five were.
They don't go far enough in some circumstances. I will cede that point to you. Are you in Ohio too. I mean you call yourself buckeye? Just curious.
Based on the concept of who of the four would best be able to run a government not that I think any of the them could I must say Palin is proberly the most qualified
Actually I intend on voting for Baldwin. But I must admit that Palin has given me a pause.
Say what?
McCain isn't going to die, and she's only going to bring in more Christian Zionist suckers. That's her job. It's working.
True all around and also the point everyone here has been making. Obama is suspect due to Affirmative Action. His total lack of accomplishments compound that. McCain is suspect due to legacy admissions at USNA. That leaves us Palin and Biden when looking at the two major parties. One has been in the Senate for 35 years and is the consummate Washington Insider, the other is a self-described Libertarian, small business owner, mayor, and current sitting Governor as well as being about as far away from DC as one can get. I just wish Palin was on TOP of the Pubbie ticket -or- Ron Paul's running mate. Now THAT would be exciting.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Everyone is going to die.
That is why she was ripped by the Dems for wearing a Pat Buchanan button in 2000. They even called Pat a Nazi. Yeah she is such a zionist.
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Lord Acton
#8. To: Sam Houston (#6)
Whatever happened to summa cum laude?
Lord Acton
#9. To: James Deffenbach (#8)
#10. To: Sam Houston (#9)
Obama may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but at least he is a knife.
#11. To: Sam Houston (#9)
Obama may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer
Lord Acton
#12. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
#13. To: Cynicom (#12)
#14. To: Sam Houston (#6)
Whatever happened to summa cum laude?
#15. To: Sam Houston (#13)
IQ
#16. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)
We are in complete agreement.
#17. To: mirage (#14)
#18. To: Sam Houston (#17)
#19. To: Sam Houston (#13)
G. W. Bush -0.7 0.0 121.4 138.5
#20. To: Cynicom (#15)
#21. To: christine (#20)
#22. To: mirage. everyone (#16)
USNA is also harder just to get into than Harvard is since each graduating class is only 1000 persons.
#23. To: mirage (#16)
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USNA is also harder just to get into than Harvard is since each graduating class is only 1000 persons
#24. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#23)
#25. To: Old Friend (#24)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#26. To: Old Friend (#24)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
I see nothing in Palin’s record to suggest that she has any such qualities.
#28. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
He is a man who has spent his adult life thinking serious thoughts about serious issues and having serious conversations about them with other serious, well-informed people;
#29. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
This choice says much more about McCain than it does about Palin
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
He was the president of the Harvard Law Review;
#31. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
He has surrounded himself in his campaign with world-class people; and, I doubt that she has even met a half-dozen world-class people in her lifetime.
#32. To: Old Friend (#30)
(Edited)
#33. To: Old Friend (#30)
But he knew so little about the constitution that he thinks there is no second amendment. He also believes in the pretend right to murder your children.
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
This choice says much more about McCain than it does about Palin, What it says about McCain is that he is more interested in politics than policy, more interested in campaigning than governing, tactical when he should be strategic, and reckless when he should be considered.
#35. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
#36. To: buckeye (#32)
Palin has said that she thinks the second amendment relates to sportsmen.
#37. To: Old Friend (#36)
#38. To: lodwick (#33)
And he's campaigned in all 57 states...
#39. To: buckeye (#37)
The NRA is false opposition.
#40. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
#41. To: Old Friend (#38)
#42. To: buckeye (#41)
You're doing it again, just like they did in 2000.
#43. To: christine (#20)
Emotional Intelligence (EI), often measured as an Emotional Intelligence Quotient (EQ), describes an ability, capacity, or skill to perceive, assess, and manage the emotions of one's self, of others, and of groups.
#44. To: Old Friend (#42)
#45. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#23)
None of these guys are exactly great talents who made it in life through merit or personal achievement.
#46. To: buckeye (#44)
McCain isn't going to die,
#47. To: buckeye (#44)
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