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Title: Live thread - The Sarah Palin Presentation. Plus, the question of the day
Source: Media
URL Source: [None]
Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: Media
Post Date: 2008-09-03 20:21:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 1207
Comments: 126

Question of the day

Let's say, you consider yourself a righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American and let's assume that you are so. In fact, the word of your righteousness spread and McCain invites you to join him as his running mate. Knowing exactly what that meant: throwing away all your principles and turning into a McCain surrogate, defending McCain views that you used to oppose, having to read speeches written by McCain speech writers, etc., etc.

Would you accept McCain's invitation?

I assume that the answer is 'no' because no righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American would agree to help McCain gain access to the nuclear buttons, among other things.

Now, here's the question: what do you think of Sarah's enthusiastic embrace of McCain? Place it within the context of your rejection of such an offer.

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#35. To: All (#0)

Giuliani on Obama: "he worked as a community organizer"
Audience: "Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!"

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-03   22:08:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#35) (Edited)

Giuliani being a great little nazi tonight in front of thousands of drunk white guys and gals

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-03   22:14:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: robnoel (#40)

He is a good speaker. I give him that.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-03   22:15:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#42) (Edited)

Oooops... back to the terroristic thing. Let's all be very afraid for a couple of minutes.

Troops, surge, America, Iraq, Islamic, terrorism, war, war, war, You Ess Hey, Al Quaida, Ben Laden.

Holy cows!!! Obama no longer favors an undivided Jerusalem and that should piss Biden.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-03   22:18:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#43)

This is where he screws up big time and proves how out of touch he is when it comes to the events in Georgia spewing the bullshit about Russia attacking this small democracy...anyone buying into this crap is a complete moron and it seems there are thousands of them in attendance

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-03   22:25:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: robnoel (#46)

anyone buying into this crap is a complete moron and it seems there are thousands of them in attendance

I'm saddened to see Palin appears to be one of the kool-aid drinkers.

noone222  posted on  2008-09-04   7:00:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: noone222 (#101)

Together with this guy Refinersfire

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-04   7:56:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: robnoel (#103)

Do you really want to start a pissing contest?

Refinersfire  posted on  2008-09-04   12:23:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Refinersfire (#104)

Having spent a decade in the military and seeing war up close and personal I have no time for folks who think of military service as honorable I have even less time for those who call themselves pro-life but support killing for some political objective my bible does not advocate war and the commandments are pretty clear to anyone who can read

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-04   12:39:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: robnoel (#107)

my bible does not advocate war and the commandments are pretty clear to anyone who can read

What about fighting in a war for self-defense of the country and everyone in it?

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-04   13:32:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#113. To: Rotara (#111)

Principles of the Just War

* A just war can only be waged as a last resort. All non-violent options must be exhausted before the use of force can be justified.

* A war is just only if it is waged by a legitimate authority. Even just causes cannot be served by actions taken by individuals or groups who do not constitute an authority sanctioned by whatever the society and outsiders to the society deem legitimate.

* A just war can only be fought to redress a wrong suffered. For example, self-defense against an armed attack is always considered to be a just cause Further, a just war can only be fought with "right" intentions: the only permissible objective of a just war is to redress the injury.

* A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success. Deaths and injury incurred in a hopeless cause are not morally justifiable.

* The ultimate goal of a just war is to re-establish peace. More specifically, the peace established after the war must be preferable to the peace that would have prevailed if the war had not been fought.

* The violence used in the war must be proportional to the injury suffered. States are prohibited from using force not necessary to attain the limited objective of addressing the injury suffered.

* The weapons used in war must discriminate between combatants and non-combatants. Civilians are never permissible targets of war, and every effort must be taken to avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.

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