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Title: Live thread - The Sarah Palin Presentation. Plus, the question of the day
Source: Media
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Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: Media
Post Date: 2008-09-03 20:21:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Views: 2235
Comments: 126

Question of the day

Let's say, you consider yourself a righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American and let's assume that you are so. In fact, the word of your righteousness spread and McCain invites you to join him as his running mate. Knowing exactly what that meant: throwing away all your principles and turning into a McCain surrogate, defending McCain views that you used to oppose, having to read speeches written by McCain speech writers, etc., etc.

Would you accept McCain's invitation?

I assume that the answer is 'no' because no righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American would agree to help McCain gain access to the nuclear buttons, among other things.

Now, here's the question: what do you think of Sarah's enthusiastic embrace of McCain? Place it within the context of your rejection of such an offer.

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Giuliani on Obama: "he worked as a community organizer"
Audience: "Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!"

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-03   22:08:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Giuliani being a great little nazi tonight in front of thousands of drunk white guys and gals

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-03   22:14:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He is a good speaker. I give him that.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-03   22:15:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oooops... back to the terroristic thing. Let's all be very afraid for a couple of minutes.

Troops, surge, America, Iraq, Islamic, terrorism, war, war, war, You Ess Hey, Al Quaida, Ben Laden.

Holy cows!!! Obama no longer favors an undivided Jerusalem and that should piss Biden.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-03   22:18:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This is where he screws up big time and proves how out of touch he is when it comes to the events in Georgia spewing the bullshit about Russia attacking this small democracy...anyone buying into this crap is a complete moron and it seems there are thousands of them in attendance

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-03   22:25:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

anyone buying into this crap is a complete moron and it seems there are thousands of them in attendance

I'm saddened to see Palin appears to be one of the kool-aid drinkers.

noone222  posted on  2008-09-04   7:00:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Together with this guy Refinersfire

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-04   7:56:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you really want to start a pissing contest?

Refinersfire  posted on  2008-09-04   12:23:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Having spent a decade in the military and seeing war up close and personal I have no time for folks who think of military service as honorable I have even less time for those who call themselves pro-life but support killing for some political objective my bible does not advocate war and the commandments are pretty clear to anyone who can read

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-04   12:39:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

my bible does not advocate war and the commandments are pretty clear to anyone who can read

What about fighting in a war for self-defense of the country and everyone in it?

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-04   13:32:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Principles of the Just War

* A just war can only be waged as a last resort. All non-violent options must be exhausted before the use of force can be justified.

* A war is just only if it is waged by a legitimate authority. Even just causes cannot be served by actions taken by individuals or groups who do not constitute an authority sanctioned by whatever the society and outsiders to the society deem legitimate.

* A just war can only be fought to redress a wrong suffered. For example, self-defense against an armed attack is always considered to be a just cause Further, a just war can only be fought with "right" intentions: the only permissible objective of a just war is to redress the injury.

* A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success. Deaths and injury incurred in a hopeless cause are not morally justifiable.

* The ultimate goal of a just war is to re-establish peace. More specifically, the peace established after the war must be preferable to the peace that would have prevailed if the war had not been fought.

* The violence used in the war must be proportional to the injury suffered. States are prohibited from using force not necessary to attain the limited objective of addressing the injury suffered.

* The weapons used in war must discriminate between combatants and non-combatants. Civilians are never permissible targets of war, and every effort must be taken to avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-04   14:07:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That's better. I thought you'd gone all goofy there for a minute. ;-)

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-04   14:09:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If you have not read this I suggest you should by Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient Major General Smedley D. Butler - USMC Retired

WAR IS A RACKET

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few – the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.

And what is this bill?

www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-04   14:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Butler is my man. A whistleblower's-whistleblower. ;-)

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-04   14:23:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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