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Title: Live thread - The Sarah Palin Presentation. Plus, the question of the day
Source: Media
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Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: Media
Post Date: 2008-09-03 20:21:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Comments: 126

Question of the day

Let's say, you consider yourself a righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American and let's assume that you are so. In fact, the word of your righteousness spread and McCain invites you to join him as his running mate. Knowing exactly what that meant: throwing away all your principles and turning into a McCain surrogate, defending McCain views that you used to oppose, having to read speeches written by McCain speech writers, etc., etc.

Would you accept McCain's invitation?

I assume that the answer is 'no' because no righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American would agree to help McCain gain access to the nuclear buttons, among other things.

Now, here's the question: what do you think of Sarah's enthusiastic embrace of McCain? Place it within the context of your rejection of such an offer.

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#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Zionists always support fellow zionists....that aside women should not be in politics

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-03   21:05:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

that aside women should not be in politics

They shouldn't be allowed to even vote. The framers had it right.

Sorry girls.

noone222  posted on  2008-09-03   21:34:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, I'd actually go along with that so long as ONLY landowners could vote--at any level of gubmint.....with landowners including wimmen.

rowdee  posted on  2008-09-03   21:52:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#28. To: rowdee (#25)

Landowners? Meh. No.

Taxpayers and those not being paid by the Government in any way, shape, or form.

Why should people who are paid with tax dollars be able to vote for more?
Why should welfare people be able to vote for more?
Why should Boeing be able to rally the troops to vote for more?

mirage  posted on  2008-09-03 21:54:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In todays world what would be more fair is one would need to take a test much like a drivers license except this test would be on the constitution and bill of rights,however based on the fact this would be to tough for the average American it will never come to be

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-03 21:59:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I just had to say it, and I have been called cromagnon man. (I'm a trouble- maker).

The truth is that the system of government that operates in America today was developed by the most sophisticated murderers ever to exist on earth and is "legally" one of a commercial nature. Everything about it is based upon the false weights and measures, fiction, illusion and fraud. This monetary system was foisted upon America in 1913 by the Wilson Administration and has chipped away at freedom ever since. Within 20 years of its creation [Federal Reserve] the nation was financially bankrupted. This system has replaced the Constitutional form of republican governance with a socialist (fascist- communist) collectivist monetary dictatorship in the form of a bankrupt corporation.

The financial bankruptcy (often called a "re-organization") afforded the criminals in D.C. an opportunity to "hypothecate" all property for the purposes of borrowing against it. The implementation over time of birth certification, marriage licensing, hunting/fishing licenses, occupational licenses, vehicle registrations, property registrations, and etc. came about because of this hypothecation of our property and gives the government a third party interest in said property that they use to finance their corruption.

The "NEW DEAL" came about when the banking institutions were caught stealing or over lending against the gold deposited in the banks by the people. Just like today, the thieves were given more power instead of being locked up. By "executive order" Americans were ordered to turn in their gold to the government and accept paper currency in its place. The government then raised the value of gold nearly double what they had paid for it. An incremental encroachment upon the people was getting into high gear.

The "SOCIAL SECURITY" system looked good to the average Joe because of the conditions brought about by the bankers, but what it did to destroy freedom is incalculable because the LAW of the land [where the gold and silver ore reside] became a nullity and was replaced by (ancient) Law Merchant or COMMERCIAL LAW / CONTRACT LAW that had developed through maritime shipping/trading practices over the centuries.

Social Security "INSURANCE" was made available to the STATES by an "ENABLING ACT" that basically subverted States rights through the consent of the people to participate. This consent combined with the 14th Amendment made slaves of everyone even though no one seemed to notice. The STATES forfeited their autonomy and the people became federal citizens. NOTE: Federal doesn't mean National. Federal Citizenship means that you are a citizen of D.C. or a FEDERAL territory without any ability to QUESTION THE DEBT (14th Amendment section 4) because you're an insolvent slave now.

In a free country wherein you're expected to pay the debt (taxes) wouldn't it seem rational that you might have some input regarding the debt ???

Even though the gold had been confiscated there was still silver backing the paper notes until 1964. When the silver standard was removed the ability to PAY A DEBT was completely removed and replaced with AN ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS PROMISE of payment, making everyone an insolvent "DEBTOR".

This system "LEGALLY" turns freedom into slavery through the fictional creation of "credit" and forces the common folk to accept things in diametric opposition to their own conscience while leaving the financial system wide open to inflation, deflation, stagflation recession or depression at the whim of the PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKERS that have used their corrupted paper to achieve possession of all the gold once held in reserve by the United States.

Many people disregard the Bible for whatever reason they choose, but there is a common sense guide to good government included in it and one critical admonishment is to keep equal weights and measures in our purse (wallet). Often times people laugh off the Bible and I would recommend reading Nehemiah 5 for an ancient example of exactly what has transpired here today and is only going to get worse.

[ 1 Now the men and their wives raised a great outcry against their Jewish brothers. 2 Some were saying, "We and our sons and daughters are numerous; in order for us to eat and stay alive, we must get grain." 3 Others were saying, "We are mortgaging our fields, our vineyards and our homes to get grain during the famine."

4 Still others were saying, "We have had to borrow money to pay the king's tax on our fields and vineyards. 5 Although we are of the same flesh and blood as our countrymen and though our sons are as good as theirs, yet we have to subject our sons and daughters to slavery. Some of our daughters have already been enslaved, but we are powerless, because our fields and our vineyards belong to others."

6 When I heard their outcry and these charges, I was very angry. 7 I pondered them in my mind and then accused the nobles and officials. I told them, "You are exacting usury from your own countrymen!" So I called together a large meeting to deal with them 8 and said: "As far as possible, we have bought back our Jewish brothers who were sold to the Gentiles. Now you are selling your brothers, only for them to be sold back to us!" They kept quiet, because they could find nothing to say.

9 So I continued, "What you are doing is not right. Shouldn't you walk in the fear of our God to avoid the reproach of our Gentile enemies? 10 I and my brothers and my men are also lending the people money and grain. But let the exacting of usury stop! 11 Give back to them immediately their fields, vineyards, olive groves and houses, and also the usury you are charging them— the hundredth part of the money, grain, new wine and oil."

12 "We will give it back," they said. "And we will not demand anything more from them. We will do as you say." Then I summoned the priests and made the nobles and officials take an oath to do what they had promised. 13 I also shook out the folds of my robe and said, "In this way may God shake out of his house and possessions every man who does not keep this promise. So may such a man be shaken out and emptied!" At this the whole assembly said, "Amen," and praised the LORD. And the people did as they had promised.] Nehemiah had gathered a mob to threaten the thieves that had reduced them to slaves. We must do the same or get used to being serfs in our own country.

I find it difficult to explain just how powerfully damaging the impact of this corrupted financial system truly is but suffice it to say that it DESTROYS the republican form of government while enslaving the public through the lack of understanding the people have regarding the LAW.

PATRIOTS have been having their asses handed to them in court most of my adult life because they continue to defend themselves with CONstitutional arguments that fall upon deaf ears in the COMMERCIAL COURTS, where the Judge is not a neutral party but acts as if he were the ships captain, the jury are mere advisors and the Patriot will be forced to walk the plank.

Believe it or not when baby Bush stated that the CONstitution was just a GD piece of paper ... he was being truthful. The CONstitution clearly admits the superiority of CONTRACTS. This is the law and whether you understand them (contracts/trusts) or not is your problem when you get to court. Many of these contracts are implicit in nature and operate based upon the actions of the parties and do not require that they be in writing.

Until we refuse this system, we guarantee our enslavement and our so- called "VOTE" is absolutely irrelevant.

noone222  posted on  2008-09-04 06:24:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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