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Title: Live thread - The Sarah Palin Presentation. Plus, the question of the day
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Published: Sep 3, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-09-03 20:21:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Question of the day Let's say, you consider yourself a righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American and let's assume that you are so. In fact, the word of your righteousness spread and McCain invites you to join him as his running mate. Knowing exactly what that meant: throwing away all your principles and turning into a McCain surrogate, defending McCain views that you used to oppose, having to read speeches written by McCain speech writers, etc., etc. Would you accept McCain's invitation? I assume that the answer is 'no' because no righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American would agree to help McCain gain access to the nuclear buttons, among other things. Now, here's the question: what do you think of Sarah's enthusiastic embrace of McCain? Place it within the context of your rejection of such an offer.
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Vast: Both teams are trash collectors. Period.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
The question is not about the teams but about what you think about Sarah joining the team. I read many posts at this site by contributors praising Sarah for her righteousness and promising to support McCain because Sarah is on his side. So the question was: what do you think of Sarah (not of McCain's team), now that she's on McCain's side?
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Sarah is one of four incompetents.
Okay, so you're not one of those who now claim that 'now' they're all Georgians, because Sarah joined McCain's team.
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Zionists always support fellow zionists....that aside women should not be in politics
I guess that, again, I'm the only one paying attention to this important event. Right now, the ousted chairwoman of HP says that calling Sara Palin 'the cheerleader of the West' is sexist. LOL - Olberman recalled that the current president of the USA was a cheerleader once.
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Why don't you dodder back to the Eastern European Communist sh*thole from whence you came before you embarrass yourself much more? If that's possible. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-08-22 12:59:10 ET TONTO, I stand by my remarks. I have nothing more to say to you :))))
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Okay, now, the GOPs are screaming You Ess Hey, You Ess, Hey. This is very uplifting. More Romney quotables: he doesn't want our high schools to be places of promiscuity (hmmm...). He says he was proud of America every single day of his life. He says that treating the Gitmo prisoners like human beings would be 'liberal'. I suppose shoving steel rods up their asses would be 'conservative'.
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Paul cant win...Paul cant win...
This convention like the other one sounds more like and looks more like something Hitler would of enjoyed.....you guys are so screwed.
You are cheapening the concept of Hitler mass events. They don't come close to a nice, well-organized Nuremberg rally. Besides, when Hitler promised to kick ass, he meant it. These metro-homosexuals... they do it for show.
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Sad to agree. Thomas
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Huckabee - Obama went to Europe and brought back disease from there. The Euros are after our precious bodily fluids. He used to walk to school, barefooted, for 10 miles each way. And the road was uphill both ways. John McCain returned with honor after dropping napalm on those yellow and brown people and now he can't lift his arms to his shoulders which makes him very heroic.
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They shouldn't be allowed to even vote. The framers had it right. Sorry girls.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Thats because they are all on the "new" 24 hour Viagra now that I'm in my 50's I realize the dumbest things I have ever done in my life was when I was "horney"
Amen !
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Here we go again with dip shit Huckabee talking about the bullshit of McCain being a war hero...war hero my ass if the majority of Americans buy that crap they deserve him.....
Don't apologize for being right
Mooseburger munchers all. Chow down.
A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.
It looks like the most impressive thing that he ever did was when the Vietkongs offered to release him ahead of those who were caught before him his decided to actually wait for his turn, AS HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. Apparently, this normal behavior was a very difficult decision for him to make. He was tormented, etc., etc. In other words, at least once in his life, he was not a crook and that surprised him so much... even now he can hardly believe it he did that.
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Right. We need to leave the blame for the sad economical and financial mess of this nation squarely at the feet of the men. :)
Have you noticed that they, at least in the current convention--don't know bout the dems cause I didn't see any of them--, that they gotta play loud stupid music sounds while the sheeple sound like and act like dolts. I don't get what the hell all this music garbage is all about.....but then I don't know why they have these conventions anyways--just a big end of the campaign party time. YUCK!
Well, I'd actually go along with that so long as ONLY landowners could vote--at any level of gubmint.....with landowners including wimmen.
Ever been to a Am-Way convention?
Landowners? Meh. No. Taxpayers and those not being paid by the Government in any way, shape, or form. Why should people who are paid with tax dollars be able to vote for more? "A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
I can't wait to see what Rudy's will be dressed as....will his accessories, i.e., purses and shoes match his attire, or complement them? Will there be any jewelry? Wonder if the cellphone will be ringing as his wifey beckons him? What about a tutu? Tiara? A wand?
Nope....and based on that question, I am now convinced that I would not do well at conventions.
In todays world what would be more fair is one would need to take a test much like a drivers license except this test would be on the constitution and bill of rights,however based on the fact this would be to tough for the average American it will never come to be
Rudy will say that the theorists are getting closer and closer but McCain and Sarah are going to chase them away.
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Why should the non-landed be able to 'sock it to' the landowners? Ever heard my story about a guy that owns 1,000 acres. Sells 10 to his brother. At voting time, their votes offset each other. Brother gets mad at the older brother so he sells off 5 acres to his best friend, who drinks like a fish. He convines the buddy to vote as he does.......they saddled the bigger landowner with a huge debt (for schools or infrastructure or whatever), then they sell out to someone else and take off for parts unknown. Older bro then has to sell off in order to get out from under the taxes he has to pay because of the brother and his drinking buddy. No land, no vote. At least not in my perfect world.
Naw, then you drop a second provision in. You only get to vote on taxes you will be paying. Think cigarette taxes would ever go up? Property taxes? Excise taxes on liquor? An evil idea, I know, but it lets people volunteer to open their wallets, which is as it should be.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Giuliani on Obama: "he worked as a community organizer" Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I would not turn down the offer, under the currents events.. John is 72, has has 4 goes with cancer.. So the VP will have greater power, either now or in the near future.. I would smile at John and as soon as he goes, and I take over.. Look out assholes, the wish to take down my country.. As no matter what was done in the mean time to America.. I would pull all stops to un-do it.. (and most likely die doing it) But I know that there would be one to take my place (as I would have my choice of veep), once the shit hits the fan..
This is a very sensible decision and this is what most people do. This is how corruption begins and this is only the first step. I saw former good friends of mine beginning to walk on that path and there was no way to backtrack later and there was no way they could stop.
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I'd have to tell McCain that he gets ALL of my political convictions if he wants me. But then, he wouldn't invite me to be his running mate in the first place because he'd already know that I'm a stubborn individualist. Maybe Sarah Palin feels she can make a small difference in D.C. with her independent streak???
Never forget: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
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Giuliani being a great little nazi tonight in front of thousands of drunk white guys and gals
That is why, one must ALWAYS remember their History.. for without that lesson.. one falls for the same thing, as the person before them.. I pray that I will always remember, where and how I got here.. (if not, someone slap me upside the head!!!!!)
He is a good speaker. I give him that.
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Oooops... back to the terroristic thing. Let's all be very afraid for a couple of minutes. Troops, surge, America, Iraq, Islamic, terrorism, war, war, war, You Ess Hey, Al Quaida, Ben Laden. Holy cows!!! Obama no longer favors an undivided Jerusalem and that should piss Biden.
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If she can retain 1% of the fire that burns in her belly and acts on it, THAT would be CHANGE.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Giuliani: McCain said "we are all Georgians". I suppose that qualifies him for president of the USA. Obama... he said that maybe both sides could share some blame.
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This is where he screws up big time and proves how out of touch he is when it comes to the events in Georgia spewing the bullshit about Russia attacking this small democracy...anyone buying into this crap is a complete moron and it seems there are thousands of them in attendance
It's "Ich bin ein Berliner!!!" all over again
Well... we're all buying into it. Condi just announced one billion in aid to Georgia so, nolens, volens, we're gonna pay for Shaka Khan's mistakes.
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The crowd seems to think that their signs should look like this: "A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Bingo!
Her voice is not as squeaky as it was when she was introduced. She also sounds a bit more programmed, reciting McCain's slogans - rather lose an election than lose a stupid and wasteful war. His wish may be granted. Let's see if she talks about her little pregnant daughter - does anyone remember the GOPs deriding them 'children having children' and the 35 yr. old grannies?
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I'm sending my 19 year old son to kill but I want you to know I'm pro-life ....jeez!
The poor kid thinks he should be proud of what he's about to do: he even thinks he's going to be fighting for his own people.
Kill for Christ and country, dammit!
He's killing for Jesus!!
Protester being escorted out.
Hmmmm... Sarah is getting nasty. Maybe she really believes that she's was picked for her talents.
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Well, it is a free country and he's free to believe whatever he wants. If he wants to go into the military, fine. The option is open as it should be. We'll see if he learns....
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
I'm not going to Washington to serve the media I'm going to Washington to serve the zionists
Something tells me the 19 year-old has never heard of the Likud or the "Clean Break" paper.
I'm thinking she just might kick Plugs Biden's ass, which is always fun to watch.
Yes America has become what it has always despised
Let's see if the speech writer wrote anything about that famous bridge to nowhere, now that, it turns out, she was for it before she opposed it. Yep, she did have the bridge and she lied about it. She said 'thanks but no thanks but she did take the money'. And, of course, she was for it before she was against it.
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She says she turned government around in Alaska so that it's for the people. But for some reason, they need a Mexican embassy.
LOL - CNN just took a shot form behind her, showing the speech rolling on the teleprompter.
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Give him a few years. The one good thing about him going is that, assuming McCain is elected, there will be a "White House son" at war. Isn't that what we've been saying? Send the politicians' kids?
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
I believe that Biden's son is on his way. to Iraq as well.
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I'm turning off the speech. I can't take any more.
Good! Now, where is Obama's contribution? We'll wait, but one is expected.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
She speaks with clenched teeth. She's not a good person. I can see the Hillary in her.
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What are you talking about? Just because Bush is sending good Americans to a senseless war it means that everyone should stampede in that direction? I promise you, none of my sons will go to no stupid war if I can help it.
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For me it's the duplicitous content. These people actually believe that Israelifying our domestic security system is pro-liberty.
I don't know... she's showing the bitch in her. Most people don't appreciate bitches. Except for Hillary's supporters but those are left-wing bitches and she's supposed to be a bitch on the right.
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I'm talking about something you don't understand. Freedom. If someone WANTS to join the military, who the hell are you to get in their way and tell them how to run their life?
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Sorry, friend. I have no problem with anyone joining some mercenary force. As for our military, it would be good if it was actually defending (do you understand 'defending') our country. In fact, I would encourage my kids to volunteer for service if our military was defending us from invaders. And, I believe, you were rhetorically asking about Obama's contribution to Bush's stupid war. It seems to me that it's you who seems to believe that everyone should stampede like a heard of stupid cows, wherever Bush tells them to stampede. That's not exactly FREEDOM (you capped it first).
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There's a division in the mind of Americans. Most on the Obama left and the McCain right know that the jig is up and the system has to be rebuilt again for freedom. Political machinery knows this very well, and so they send out messages of shrill criticism in the speeches their Marionettes give. So the people want that teeth-clenching and indignation. They want to believe their liberation is at hand. They want a "fighter." Gullible.
Well, you certainly raised an objection to that kind of freedom. Are you OK tonite?
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
If you can not tell the difference between a Child and an Enemy, please don't reply to me.. I come from a Military Family, and I have no time for those, who can not, nor will not understand the differences..
Dunno. But my wife is watching her this very minute and loves her. Hmph. Anyway, I can't vote for Palin, because she's not racist.
"If you thought genocide was left behind in the 20th century, be apprised that today genocide [of whites] has a home in the educational system." -- Paul Craig Roberts, Harvard Hates the White Race?
I did? I only noted that the Bush's war are stupid and, I am adding now, wasteful of life and resources. I believe it was you objecting the fact that Obama wasn't 'contributing' to Bush's war.
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Your enemy is in Tel Aviv, not Iraq.
I missed the part where she called for border security....oh, wait, she didn't mention it.
My enemy is in the dark part of any man/woman's heart.. no matter where they live..
Check the hearts of the people whose families we've destroyed in Iraq, and see how they feel. Of course we were following the Clean Break strategy, for Tel Aviv.
First off, its not Bush's war alone. Congress has to fund it. For details on how this works, please see the US Constitution. Secondly, I made a comment that most of us would like our politicians to send their kids off to war if they are going to decide to have one. Since McCain already went to war, Palin and Biden are sending kids, where is Obama's contribution since he IS a sitting Senator and HAS voted TO FUND the war? That's my question and I stand by it.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Bucky.. don't limit yourself so much, evil is everywhere, but you knew that already, didn't ya..
That's my question and I stand by it. It is easy to sit back and bitch, isn't it.. come on Obama, sign up for a tour or sit the fck down..
Alright, so you are for FREEDOM where everyone is free to go to war if they wish but Obama MUST send a family member to war. Are you suggesting that he adopts an 18 yr. old in a hurry and he sends him over ASAP? Or maybe you're suggesting that he decided to have pre-teen girls on purpose.
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blah blah blah blah blah blah.....
I have nowhere said Obama MUST send. I have asked where his contribution is. Obama is more than welcome to send HIMSELF. There is a big difference between asking a question and making a demand and you, sir, should know that quite well. If not, then you know it now.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
Obummer hasn't contributed anything of substance to America all his life, let alone this or any previous "war". McCain is within 22 votes of taking the nomination and everyone is PASSING right now and refusing to cast their votes. This is VERY interesting. They seem to be waiting on Arizona.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
That is the norm........so that the home state can put the candidate over the top. ITs bullhockey, but they do it as a 'show' of uniformity, conformity, or unity.......some bullshit excuse.
Did you notice they allowed no vote totals for other candidates, i.e., Paul gets 2 and someone else did as well, but they said 30 votes for McCain. I noticed it again with West Va's vote total. They just totally ignored other candidates votes and included them in the total for the pow hater.
Now boehner says pow hater got 2600+ and that romney got 2 and paul got 5 and now swindle, a bud of the pow hater wants it made unanimous.......changing those votes
Ya, I saw that too, but I am pleased that the Sovereign State of Oregon as well as the Great State of Washington each cast four votes, audible, and picked up by those listening, for Ron Paul. Paul took 25% of the vote in Oregon running against McCain and Paul also flat-out won in Clark County, Washington, home to the city of Vancouver, Washington. I am well pleased that Paul was entered for nomination, that he actually kept his delegates, and had votes entered for him. I am displeased he did not have 2000 delegate votes BUT - you win some, you lose some.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I just had to say it, and I have been called cromagnon man. (I'm a trouble- maker). The truth is that the system of government that operates in America today was developed by the most sophisticated murderers ever to exist on earth and is "legally" one of a commercial nature. Everything about it is based upon the false weights and measures, fiction, illusion and fraud. This monetary system was foisted upon America in 1913 by the Wilson Administration and has chipped away at freedom ever since. Within 20 years of its creation [Federal Reserve] the nation was financially bankrupted. This system has replaced the Constitutional form of republican governance with a socialist (fascist- communist) collectivist monetary dictatorship in the form of a bankrupt corporation. The financial bankruptcy (often called a "re-organization") afforded the criminals in D.C. an opportunity to "hypothecate" all property for the purposes of borrowing against it. The implementation over time of birth certification, marriage licensing, hunting/fishing licenses, occupational licenses, vehicle registrations, property registrations, and etc. came about because of this hypothecation of our property and gives the government a third party interest in said property that they use to finance their corruption. The "NEW DEAL" came about when the banking institutions were caught stealing or over lending against the gold deposited in the banks by the people. Just like today, the thieves were given more power instead of being locked up. By "executive order" Americans were ordered to turn in their gold to the government and accept paper currency in its place. The government then raised the value of gold nearly double what they had paid for it. An incremental encroachment upon the people was getting into high gear. The "SOCIAL SECURITY" system looked good to the average Joe because of the conditions brought about by the bankers, but what it did to destroy freedom is incalculable because the LAW of the land [where the gold and silver ore reside] became a nullity and was replaced by (ancient) Law Merchant or COMMERCIAL LAW / CONTRACT LAW that had developed through maritime shipping/trading practices over the centuries. Social Security "INSURANCE" was made available to the STATES by an "ENABLING ACT" that basically subverted States rights through the consent of the people to participate. This consent combined with the 14th Amendment made slaves of everyone even though no one seemed to notice. The STATES forfeited their autonomy and the people became federal citizens. NOTE: Federal doesn't mean National. Federal Citizenship means that you are a citizen of D.C. or a FEDERAL territory without any ability to QUESTION THE DEBT (14th Amendment section 4) because you're an insolvent slave now. In a free country wherein you're expected to pay the debt (taxes) wouldn't it seem rational that you might have some input regarding the debt ??? Even though the gold had been confiscated there was still silver backing the paper notes until 1964. When the silver standard was removed the ability to PAY A DEBT was completely removed and replaced with AN ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS PROMISE of payment, making everyone an insolvent "DEBTOR". This system "LEGALLY" turns freedom into slavery through the fictional creation of "credit" and forces the common folk to accept things in diametric opposition to their own conscience while leaving the financial system wide open to inflation, deflation, stagflation recession or depression at the whim of the PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKERS that have used their corrupted paper to achieve possession of all the gold once held in reserve by the United States. Many people disregard the Bible for whatever reason they choose, but there is a common sense guide to good government included in it and one critical admonishment is to keep equal weights and measures in our purse (wallet). Often times people laugh off the Bible and I would recommend reading Nehemiah 5 for an ancient example of exactly what has transpired here today and is only going to get worse. [ 1 Now the men and their wives raised a great outcry against their Jewish brothers. 2 Some were saying, "We and our sons and daughters are numerous; in order for us to eat and stay alive, we must get grain." 3 Others were saying, "We are mortgaging our fields, our vineyards and our homes to get grain during the famine." 4 Still others were saying, "We have had to borrow money to pay the king's tax on our fields and vineyards. 5 Although we are of the same flesh and blood as our countrymen and though our sons are as good as theirs, yet we have to subject our sons and daughters to slavery. Some of our daughters have already been enslaved, but we are powerless, because our fields and our vineyards belong to others." 6 When I heard their outcry and these charges, I was very angry. 7 I pondered them in my mind and then accused the nobles and officials. I told them, "You are exacting usury from your own countrymen!" So I called together a large meeting to deal with them 8 and said: "As far as possible, we have bought back our Jewish brothers who were sold to the Gentiles. Now you are selling your brothers, only for them to be sold back to us!" They kept quiet, because they could find nothing to say. 9 So I continued, "What you are doing is not right. Shouldn't you walk in the fear of our God to avoid the reproach of our Gentile enemies? 10 I and my brothers and my men are also lending the people money and grain. But let the exacting of usury stop! 11 Give back to them immediately their fields, vineyards, olive groves and houses, and also the usury you are charging them— the hundredth part of the money, grain, new wine and oil." 12 "We will give it back," they said. "And we will not demand anything more from them. We will do as you say." Then I summoned the priests and made the nobles and officials take an oath to do what they had promised. 13 I also shook out the folds of my robe and said, "In this way may God shake out of his house and possessions every man who does not keep this promise. So may such a man be shaken out and emptied!" At this the whole assembly said, "Amen," and praised the LORD. And the people did as they had promised.] Nehemiah had gathered a mob to threaten the thieves that had reduced them to slaves. We must do the same or get used to being serfs in our own country. I find it difficult to explain just how powerfully damaging the impact of this corrupted financial system truly is but suffice it to say that it DESTROYS the republican form of government while enslaving the public through the lack of understanding the people have regarding the LAW. PATRIOTS have been having their asses handed to them in court most of my adult life because they continue to defend themselves with CONstitutional arguments that fall upon deaf ears in the COMMERCIAL COURTS, where the Judge is not a neutral party but acts as if he were the ships captain, the jury are mere advisors and the Patriot will be forced to walk the plank. Believe it or not when baby Bush stated that the CONstitution was just a GD piece of paper ... he was being truthful. The CONstitution clearly admits the superiority of CONTRACTS. This is the law and whether you understand them (contracts/trusts) or not is your problem when you get to court. Many of these contracts are implicit in nature and operate based upon the actions of the parties and do not require that they be in writing. Until we refuse this system, we guarantee our enslavement and our so- called "VOTE" is absolutely irrelevant.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Obama is more than welcome to send HIMSELF. I see, so wherever you see a gang rape in progress, you feel this irresistible urge to join in, but not before inviting everyone else to do the thing. This is very interesting. Would you be asking the next GOP SOB running for prez in 2012 where his contribution was to some Obama humanitarian war, if he started one?
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I'm saddened to see Palin appears to be one of the kool-aid drinkers.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
So what war did you fight in? and if you are one of those phoney christians better prepare for a food fight
Together with this guy Refinersfire
Do you really want to start a pissing contest?
That was an excellent post, actually good enough to stand on its own as an article.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. PATRIOTS have been having their asses handed to them in court most of my adult life because they continue to defend themselves with CONstitutional arguments that fall upon deaf ears in the COMMERCIAL COURTS, where the Judge is not a neutral party but acts as if he were the ships captain, the jury are mere advisors and the Patriot will be forced to walk the plank. Believe it or not when baby Bush stated that the CONstitution was just a GD piece of paper ... he was being truthful. The CONstitution clearly admits the superiority of CONTRACTS. This is the law and whether you understand them (contracts/trusts) or not is your problem when you get to court. Many of these contracts are implicit in nature and operate based upon the actions of the parties and do not require that they be in writing. Until we refuse this system, we guarantee our enslavement and our so- called "VOTE" is absolutely irrelevant. outstanding post, noone. very informative and right on. here's a great course on money and the economy presented in video vignettes by Chris Martenson. he does an excellent job explaining the history of the fiat currency and where it's headed. Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
Having spent a decade in the military and seeing war up close and personal I have no time for folks who think of military service as honorable I have even less time for those who call themselves pro-life but support killing for some political objective my bible does not advocate war and the commandments are pretty clear to anyone who can read
a vast rightwing conspirator posted on 2008-08-22 12:59:10 ET TONTO, I stand by my remarks. I have nothing more to say to you :)))) I will still be watching and videotaping you (for as long as I can take it), A.C.O.R.N. girl.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Thanks !
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Thank you very much.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
What about fighting in a war for self-defense of the country and everyone in it?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
You should post how our fellow patriots can extricate themselves, step by step, from the commercial system. You'd do it far better than I.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Principles of the Just War * A just war can only be waged as a last resort. All non-violent options must be exhausted before the use of force can be justified. * A war is just only if it is waged by a legitimate authority. Even just causes cannot be served by actions taken by individuals or groups who do not constitute an authority sanctioned by whatever the society and outsiders to the society deem legitimate. * A just war can only be fought to redress a wrong suffered. For example, self-defense against an armed attack is always considered to be a just cause Further, a just war can only be fought with "right" intentions: the only permissible objective of a just war is to redress the injury. * A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success. Deaths and injury incurred in a hopeless cause are not morally justifiable. * The ultimate goal of a just war is to re-establish peace. More specifically, the peace established after the war must be preferable to the peace that would have prevailed if the war had not been fought. * The violence used in the war must be proportional to the injury suffered. States are prohibited from using force not necessary to attain the limited objective of addressing the injury suffered. * The weapons used in war must discriminate between combatants and non-combatants. Civilians are never permissible targets of war, and every effort must be taken to avoid killing civilians. The deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.
That's better. I thought you'd gone all goofy there for a minute. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Palin's speech was about as nebulous as they come - some feel-good phrases for the crowds, some sarcastic comments about her equally vacuous opponent BHO, and that was it. She reminded me a bit of Fred Thompson. About the only thing we could conclude about Palin's political views from her speech is that she supports her running mate's psychotic warmongering.
WAR IS A RACKET WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes. In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows. How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle? Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few – the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill. And what is this bill?
My neighbor got a good laugh though when Palin talked about laying more pipe. No wonder we're screwed. Women vote for good looking men and men now voting for good looking women. It's not almost over, it just appears that way. It's O-V-E-R. Save dramatic, bloody efforts which probably would be of little effect anyway.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Butler is my man. A whistleblower's-whistleblower. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Ecclesiastes 3 For everything there is a season, a time for every activity under heaven. 2 A time to be born and a time to die. A time to plant and a time to harvest. 3 A time to kill and a time to heal. A time to tear down and a time to build up. 4 A time to cry and a time to laugh. A time to grieve and a time to dance. 5 A time to scatter stones and a time to gather stones. A time to embrace and a time to turn away. 6 A time to search and a time to quit searching. A time to keep and a time to throw away. 7 A time to tear and a time to mend. A time to be quiet and a time to speak. 8 A time to love and a time to hate. A time for war and a time for peace. Now go back to your Internet pissing contests, with those that claim your a Jew, or better yet.. sell some more Gold..
So its you ...what prize prick you are!
Nope.. wrong again.. but I do know how to do research on anyone, anywhere.. try it some time.. here's a hint.. I'm Refinersfire everywhere I go on the net..
Hell, I'll make easy for you.. Here a freebie.. http://www.freedomunderground.org/homes.php?pid=17
I'm most concerned with the evil that is committed in my name, with my tax dollars, and the evil that impacts my own people. Zionism is such a scourge.
My impression of Sara: REPTILIAN. I don't know what else is there to say.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Yes I would, but only if s/he voted to authorize or fund it. Further, I would ask why start it in the first place. Then I would ask how the hell you can possibly have a "humanitarian war" - seems to be a contradiction in terms. Just as I have been saying about Iraq. We shouldn't be there. But BOTH front-runner candidates have voted to fund it. Only one of the front-runners is sending family. The other can't even be bothered visiting the troops unless there is a photo-op attached. Thus, I'm still likely to write in Ron Paul, but, if they flip the GOP ticket, I will be manning a phone bank because I want to see Palin shred DC the way she tore up the Republican Party in Alaska. So, I still have my question: What is Obama's sacrifice or contribution to the War in Iraq he has voted money for even though he is against it? Its fine for him to say "No contribution, you're just a sucker I'm gonna send to die." But at least that would be honest and I could respect that.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
My impression of Sara: REPTILIAN. I don't know what else is there to say. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
Now, here's the question: what do you think of Sarah's enthusiastic embrace of McCain? Place it within the context of your rejection of such an offer.
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
#7. To: All (#0)
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#8. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#7)
I guess that, again, I'm the only one paying attention to this important event.
#9. To: Rotara (#8)
I want to clarify this, because it's probably important. I am suggesting DUMBO or TONTO not because I wish to hurt your feelings but because I believe those would be fair names for you. It is so, in my humble opinion, because, you seem to be too dumb to participate in a discussion on just about any topic without immediately replying with some kind of personal 'attack' or attempt to label the other party in some stupid way. Or, alternatively, you use some broken-record-like affirmation of certain stupid and tired 'ideas' such as 'it's all the same', 'nothing ever changes' or... wait, I believe that's it. It doesn't seem that there's room inside your little noggin for more than these two.
#10. To: All (#0)
#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)
#12. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)
#13. To: robnoel (#12)
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#14. To: robnoel (#12)
This convention like the other one sounds more like and looks more like something Hitler would of enjoyed.....you guys are so screwed.
#15. To: All (#0)
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#16. To: robnoel (#6)
that aside women should not be in politics
#17. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#13)
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
Both teams are trash collectors. Period.
#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#15)
#20. To: noone222 (#16)
#21. To: robnoel (#17)
#22. To: robnoel (#19)
#23. To: robnoel (#6)
that aside women should not be in politics
#24. To: robnoel (#12)
#25. To: noone222 (#16)
#26. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#22)
Heres the skinney on that theory "Vietnam Veterans Against McCain"
#27. To: rowdee (#24)
#28. To: rowdee (#25)
Why should welfare people be able to vote for more?
Why should Boeing be able to rally the troops to vote for more?
#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, All (#0)
#30. To: robnoel (#27)
#31. To: rowdee (#25)
#32. To: rowdee (#29)
#33. To: mirage (#28)
#34. To: rowdee (#33)
#35. To: All (#0)
Audience: "Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!"
#36. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
Now, here's the question: what do you think of Sarah's enthusiastic embrace of McCain? Place it within the context of your rejection of such an offer.
#37. To: Refinersfire (#36)
#38. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#39. To: X-15 (#38)
#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#35)
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#41. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#37)
This is how corruption begins and this is only the first step. I saw former good friends of mine beginning to walk on that path and there was no way to backtrack later and there was no way they could stop.
#42. To: robnoel (#40)
#43. To: All (#42)
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#44. To: X-15 (#38)
Maybe Sarah Palin feels she can make a small difference in D.C. with her independent streak???
#45. To: All (#43)
#46. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#43)
#47. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#45)
Giuliani: McCain said "we are all Georgians".
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#48. To: robnoel (#46)
#49. To: All (#48)
Wow...
#50. To: mirage (#44)
If she can retain 1% of the fire that burns in her belly and acts on it, THAT would be CHANGE.
#51. To: All (#48)
#52. To: Refinersfire (#50)
#53. To: robnoel (#52)
#54. To: robnoel (#52)
I'm sending my 19 year old son to kill but I want you to know I'm pro-life ....jeez!
#55. To: robnoel (#52)
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#56. To: X-15, robnoel (#55)
#57. To: X-15 (#55)
#58. To: buckeye (#53)
The poor kid thinks he should be proud of what he's about to do: he even thinks he's going to be fighting for his own people.
#59. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
#60. To: mirage (#58)
#61. To: robnoel (#59)
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#62. To: All (#58)
#63. To: X-15 (#55)
#64. To: buckeye (#60)
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#65. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#64)
#66. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
#67. To: buckeye (#60)
Something tells me the 19 year-old has never heard of the Likud or the "Clean Break" paper.
#68. To: mirage (#67)
#69. To: robnoel (#63)
Yes America has become what it has always despised
#70. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#68)
I believe that Biden's son is on his way. to Iraq as well.
#71. To: buckeye (#69)
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#72. To: mirage (#70)
#73. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#71)
#74. To: buckeye (#73)
#75. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#72)
What are you talking about?
#76. To: mirage (#75)
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#77. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#74)
#78. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#76)
Sorry, friend. I have no problem with anyone joining some mercenary force.
#79. To: robnoel (#52)
I'm sending my 19 year old son to kill but I want you to know I'm pro-life ....jeez!
#80. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
#81. To: mirage (#78)
#82. To: Refinersfire (#79)
If you can not tell the difference between a Child and an Enemy, please don't reply to me.
#83. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#84. To: buckeye (#82)
Your enemy is in Tel Aviv, not Iraq.
#85. To: Refinersfire (#84)
#86. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#81)
I believe it was you objecting the fact that Obama wasn't 'contributing' to Bush's war.
#87. To: buckeye (#85)
Check the hearts of the people whose families we've destroyed in Iraq, and see how they feel. Of course we were following the Clean Break strategy, for Tel Aviv.
#88. To: mirage (#86)
where is Obama's contribution since he IS a sitting Senator and HAS voted TO FUND the war?
#89. To: mirage (#86)
#90. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
I assume that the answer is 'no' because no righteous, red-blooded, patriotic American would agree to help McCain gain access to the nuclear buttons, among other things.
#91. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#89)
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#92. To: mirage (#86)
...where is Obama's contribution since he IS a sitting Senator and HAS voted TO FUND the war?
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#93. To: All (#92)
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#94. To: mirage (#93)
#95. To: mirage (#93)
#96. To: All (#95)
#97. To: rowdee (#95)
#98. To: rowdee (#95)
McP.O.W. hater indeed bump
#99. To: rowdee (#25)
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#100. To: mirage (#91)
(Edited)
I have nowhere said Obama MUST send. I have asked where his contribution is.
#101. To: robnoel (#46)
anyone buying into this crap is a complete moron and it seems there are thousands of them in attendance
#102. To: Refinersfire (#79)
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#103. To: noone222 (#101)
#104. To: robnoel (#103)
#105. To: noone222 (#99)
Lord Acton
#106. To: noone222, rowdee, Jethro Tull, ALL (#99)
I find it difficult to explain just how powerfully damaging the impact of this corrupted financial system truly is but suffice it to say that it DESTROYS the republican form of government while enslaving the public through the lack of understanding the people have regarding the LAW.
#107. To: Refinersfire (#104)
#108. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)
I want to clarify this, because it's probably important. I am suggesting DUMBO or TONTO not because I wish to hurt your feelings but because I believe those would be fair names for you. It is so, in my humble opinion, because, you seem to be too dumb to participate in a discussion on just about any topic without immediately replying with some kind of personal 'attack' or attempt to label the other party in some stupid way. Or, alternatively, you use some broken-record-like affirmation of certain stupid and tired 'ideas' such as 'it's all the same', 'nothing ever changes' or... wait, I believe that's it. It doesn't seem that there's room inside your little noggin for more than these two.
#109. To: christine (#106)
#110. To: James Deffenbach (#105)
#111. To: robnoel (#107)
my bible does not advocate war and the commandments are pretty clear to anyone who can read
#112. To: noone222 (#99)
#113. To: Rotara (#111)
#114. To: robnoel (#113)
#115. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
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#116. To: Rotara (#114)
If you have not read this I suggest you should by Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient Major General Smedley D. Butler - USMC Retired
#117. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#115)
Palin's speech was about as nebulous as they come - some feel-good phrases, some sarcastic comments about her equally vacuous opponent, and that was it. About the only thing we could conclude about Palin's political views from her speech is that she supports her running mate's psychotic warmongering.
#118. To: robnoel (#116)
#119. To: robnoel (#107)
Having spent a decade in the military and seeing war up close and personal I have no time for folks who think of military service as honorable I have even less time for those who call themselves pro-life but support killing for some political objective my bible does not advocate war and the commandments are pretty clear to anyone who can read
#120. To: Refinersfire (#119)
#121. To: robnoel (#120)
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So its you ...what prize prick you are!
#122. To: robnoel (#120)
#123. To: Refinersfire (#87)
Bucky.. don't limit yourself so much, evil is everywhere, but you knew that already, didn't ya..
#124. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#115)
She reminded me a bit of Fred Thompson.
#125. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#100)
Would you be asking the next GOP SOB running for prez in 2012 where his contribution was to some Obama humanitarian war, if he started one?
#126. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#124)
She reminded me a bit of Fred Thompson.
More monkey cheese?
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