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Title: Evangelical faith drives Palin's pro-Israel view
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Published: Sep 4, 2008
Author: Ralph Z. Hallow
Post Date: 2008-09-04 20:29:47 by buckeye
Keywords: aog, pentecostal
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Thursday, September 4, 2008 ST. PAUL, Minn. | Sarah Palin displays an Israeli flag in her governor's office in Juneau, even though she has never been to the country, and attends Protestant evangelical churches that consider the preservation of the state of Israel a biblical imperative. Her faith makes her a favorite with the staunchly pro-Israel neoconservative elements in the Republican Party. But other Republicans may be concerned that a John McCain-Sarah Palin administration will disregard the caution of former President George H.W. Bush and some of his top advisers and continue the tilt toward Israel. Most Republicans and conservatives outside Alaska know little about Mrs. Palin's foreign policy views - on Israel or anything else. But Tucker Eskew, who holds the title of counselor to Mrs. Palin in the McCain-Palin campaign, left no doubt where she stands. "She would describe herself as a strong supporter of Israel's, with an understanding of Israel's fear of an Iran in possession of nuclear weapons," Mr. Eskew told The Washington Times. In June, Mrs. Palin told ministry students at her former church that in going to war with Iraq, the United States is "on a task that is from God," the Associated Press reported. Mrs. Palin's brand of evangelical Protestantism is especially well-disposed to the preservation of Israel for biblical reasons, said Merrill Matthews, an evangelical Christian and a Dallas-based health-policy specialist. Mrs. Palin was baptized as a teenager at the Wasilla Assembly of God Church. She frequently attends the Juneau Christian Center, which is also part of the Pentecostal Assemblies of God. Her home church is the Church of the Rock, an independent congregation. "Historically, the Assemblies of God have been dispensationalists, which means they believe in 'the rapture' of Christians that takes them out of the world," said Mr. Matthews. "Central to that position is a very strong support for Israel. It's integral to their view of both prophecy and politics. Denying Israel is almost like denying the faith." Meanwhile, she is getting rave reviews from Jewish Republicans. "I think it is very telling that she has a flag of the state of Israel in her office," said Matthews Brooks, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. "That was not inspired by domestic politics, since there is a very small Jewish population in Alaska. "The fact that she keeps the flag of Israel in her office means she has Israel in her heart," Mr. Brooks said. "I am confident the Jewish community will be impressed with the strong pro-Israel views of Governor Palin as she begins to travel the country and ... discuss the critical issues in this campaign." On the Democratic side, presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama and his running mate, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., while not identifying with neoconservatism, have put themselves solidly in the friends of Israel camp. "The essence of neoconservatism is the protection of Israel - a shared priority with evangelical Christians," said Paul Erickson, the Republican strategist who managed Pat Buchanan's presidential bid in 1992. Chief among the McCain campaign's foreign policy advisers known for their neoconservative worldview is Randy Scheunemann, a former aide to Trent Lott and Bob Dole in the Senate. Other neoconservative foreign policy analysts who have Mr. McCain's ear are former Clinton White House CIA Director R. James Woolsey Jr., who predicted that Iraq's Shi'ite Muslims would flock to support the U.S. in the event of war, and Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century. The Republican presidential hopefuls who competed with Mr. McCain earlier this year tended to share the same interventionist approach in foreign policy that is integral to the neoconservative worldview. "There is an overwhelming presence of neoconservatives and absence of traditional conservatives that I don't know what to make of," said Richard V. Allen, former Reagan White House national security adviser. In June, Mr. Obama pledged his support before a powerful pro-Israel lobby, though not couched in biblical or religious terms. "I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon," he told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Washington. "Let there be no doubt: I will always keep the threat of military action on the table to defend our security and our ally Israel." Not to be outdone, Mr. Biden appealed in person to elderly Jewish Floridians on Wednesday. "I am chairman of the [Senate] Foreign Relations Committee," he said. "I give you my word as a Biden I would not have given up that job to be Barack Obama's vice president if I didn't in my gut and in my heart and in my head know that Barack Obama is exactly where I am on Israel. And he is." On Monday, Mr. McCain told an AIPAC audience that a meeting with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would lead to "anti-Semitic rants and a worldwide audience for a man who denies the Holocaust."
Evangelical faith drives Palin's pro-Israel view
Ralph Z. Hallow
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#42. To: Rotara (#11)
Many generations have thought they were the ones that would witness the return of Israel and the end of times. So far none have ... yet God could have a sense of humor and allow this fraud to serve his purposes while demonstrating our propensity to "prefer a lie" to the truth. Regardless of ones personal beliefs, the scriptures themselves deny any right of return to ashkenazi Jews because they aren't ethnically qualified. They are religious converts as opposed to blood relatives or descendants of Shem and therefore Abraham. The Pharisees claimed to be "Jews" but Jesus said they were of their father the devil ... read John 8:44 he describes their attributes as being murderers and liars ... and they are !
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
I have no interest in sharing my religious beliefs with you. You needn't bother expressing yours, because I wouldn't believe you anyway.
I guess I've never come across anyone that proclaims to follow (as best they know how) Yeshua who believes the end needs to be pushed along. I'm sure they're out there because I've seen this mentioned more than once in forums like this.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
You're kind of a big weenie.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I should 'feel' something for your dark soul, but I don't. So sue me. Tell Hitler hello when you see him.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
You're welcome to your religious beliefs as long as they don't negatively impact me. You've made it clear that they do.
You always resort to this insult when you can't think of anything better to say. It's very informative as to where your true loyalties are.
I'm trying to find that verse. Is it in one of the Gospels?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
That's because I've discovered that you and everyone like you, deep down, is afraid to be honest like this loser.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
You've proven to be a big sissy.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I have read such unfortunately I don't have any links. I have even debated individuals who held to the need to incite Armegeddon and the references to Prophecy supporting their support of allowing evil to fluorish, effectively by not standing in opposition, as a requisite to establish the conditions for the "Rapture" and the Second Coming. That "the Rapture" is nowhere mentioned in Christian Scripture does not seem to faze them.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I've studied this and can't decide either way. The 'catching away' or whatever it is precisely called in the Word combined with "God will not pour his wrath out on His church (paraph)" could go either way. It doesn't matter when He comes; if you don't believe He *IS* then it doesn't matter the way I read things.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Well, I doubt you know her as well as I do. What's clear to you now may cloud up in short order.
Great. You made my day. And yes, if there is one reason we can't seem to "win," it's this one. I'm getting it off line, as well. People who know me as a conservative, are approaching me with this pro-Palin evangelical nonsense and they're stunned when I tell them that she's just like McCain at heart.
Tell us more.
That makes no logic what the heck do they have to do with it?
Tell us how well you know her. I am interested in whether she may have compromised some of her views and principles in order to possibly have some effect later on this nation.
Tell us more. No point wasting your time on that big woman, eskimo. She pokes sticks at everyone else but can't be straight up about where she stands. At the least the goofball carnie Ferret owns what he believes as he slings it at everyone else.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Sammy Davis Jr. ??? Some people are brainwashed to believe that "Jews are Jews" ... that is a simplistic opinion and untrue. Look it up in the encyclopedia. Ashkenazi Jews are different from Sephardic Jews ... Not one iota of DNA evidence exists that proves modern Jewry descended from Abraham through Jacob (Israel). (Actually no proof has ever been shown to support the removal of the Palestinians in order to "give back" Jersualem to these people calling themselves Jews). And think about this; what other state has been instituted because an invisible god made a secret deal with someones ancestor ??? This is a ridiculous premise in the first place when you consider that most of the world doesn't even have a bible. I'm not interested in arguing about it. I've done a ton of research and satisfied my mind 100%. There could certainly be exceptions since thousands of years have passed and we don't have all of the facts ... but strictly using the Bible it clearly and specifically eliminates descendants of ashkenaz as being entitled to the Abrahamic covenant. That's not my opinion, that's the same bible being used to support the lie. The surprising thing is that those wishing to support the fraud refuse to read the biblical evidence right in front of their eyes. They prefer to believe a lie told by fake Jews and phoney preachers.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
I think the proof is in the genetic studies. Right now I'm going with MacDonald's comments on the matter. He studies these things, and has some expertise. Sorry, but the Christian Identity movement is where most of this comes from, and it's pretty lame. They're not the super race (none such exists) and wanting to be one in order to reap God's blessing is just plain wrong.
It's somewhat intriguing, I guess. My colleagues/friends up in AK say she's anti-establishment all the way. To which I say "Not anymore" and "So what, she's a VP". Having Preznit's die in office to get the Veep is not a strategy I'll subscribe to.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
That makes no logic what the heck do they have to do with it? You misfired. I typed that in response to your "America funds the Israeli-Pali deaths". S.A., Iran and MANY others fund it, too.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Happened a LOT of times. Ask LBJ.
Actually it's the parable of the fig tree and it is in the gospels somewhere ... I'm dead tired but promise to post it as soon as I get a little sleep. [I've been planting wheat since very early this morning.] If you can't wait just google parable of the fig tree ... I'm sure you'll get it.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Ask LBJ. You're not falling for the eye candy are you?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
If you can't wait just google parable of the fig tree ... I'm sure you'll get it. Thanks Doug. Rest well.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I'm not an identity Christian. I'm a truth seeker ... I had all of the same notions too, until I did the research. I'll look at MacDonald's stuff (I probably already have but don't know off hand). Edit: I'm a serious student looking for the truth ... and the more I learn the less I realize I know. At this moment I'd be hard pressed to say that I trust the entire New Testament ... I don't. I think politics and time have distorted the original New Testament writings. We can continue this discussion later because I really need to get some sleep.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Backroom people are never interested in eye candy. Every move is calculated to the Nth degree. Note coincidence????? Obummer young with OLDE VP insider... McKooK olde with young VP outsider... Dynamics at play and you failed Hardball Politics 101 for sure.
That's why I like you. All I want is the truth. Period. |P and end of Story.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I think you have to realize that people reach these different conclusions at different times, noone. There is no magic age, or dinger, that suddenly makes everyone who heard the ding 'enlightened ones'. I daresay it is a safe statement to make that 98% of Americans cannot tell the difference between a Jew and a Zionist, or that there is even a difference. Does that make 98% of our fellow citizens evil, zioniosts, or whatever? Not in my book--it merely means they haven't arrived at whatever conclusion you have, or that I have-- whatever that is. You know yourself, that as you have read scriptures over time, your understanding becomes clearer and clearer....it has with me, too. I see it as senseless to continue to run around screaming 'jew this' or 'jew that' because peoples mind tell them 'anti semite'--especially when their beliefs tell them their own Saviour was a jew, as was his disciples. Education is much more effective. You, yourself, make a great point about Abraham's line being God's chosen line rather than Japath's or Hams, with Abraham descending from Seth. Ashkenaz was a son of one of the others, or a grandson--would have to look it up again. That is the thing-- most people read thru the Bible without connecting dots, such as there being a difference between Israelite and Jew, or Hebrew and Israelite. Rather than condemn them, try to educate or give them clues they can trace. Anyway, thats MO.
I completely agree Rowdee ... especially the "whatever that is" part. I've said a million times ... we don't all have the information necessary to draw the same conclusions at the same time ... we all need to be patient as long as everyone is willing to participate in the research. When someone refuses to do the research and remains determined to hold an opinion based on hearsay and innuendo ... patience isn't necessary !
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Sounds good. All I know of MacDonald is that he says modern Jews are all linked, and he says genetic studies back this up. Your argument from antiquity is very difficult to refute with empirical information, since we have so little. However, the Bible does indicate that people living in Palestine at the time of rule of the Romans were Jews, and some Jews today, as far as I know, can claim accurate lineage back to those people. If genetic studies link them to others, then the argument from antiquity is fairly vulnerable.
I like you too because I find myself in agreement with your opinions.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
A legitimate claim would have to made by a Sephardic (Spanish) Jew. When the Romans ran the Jews out of Jerusalem in 70 AD ... they went to Spain. The Ashkenazim were Eastern Europeans that converted to the religion but weren't ethnically realted to the Sephardic jews. Many have inter-married though since those days. Let's discuss it later when I'm more likely to give a more thoughtful, concise and complete answer.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
I apologize for getting sh*tty with you whenever it was. Although I'm a reforming mean-SOB-asshole, I tend to be a lover and a giver down to my last shirt and shekel. (hahaha) I hate injustice and I really hate people that de construct America, the GREATEST country in the history of man.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I would be willing to bet a princely sum that if one did DNA testing of the non-Jews from the region, Khazaria, that the Ashkenazim originated that such testing would likely show the same DNA Markers. That of course would be buried and hidden, and I bet it has been done. It would be a deathblow to the racist Ashkenazim and their pretentions to being a "Master Race". Thus any such test, were it to confirm relationship to the other peoples of the region, would be suppressed at all costs.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Nah, I just got my grade back and it's an A+, bert. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
You might have missed this.
All this bitching about a friggin flag, as though she was flying something over the capital dome..... Here is a pic from your source showing the flag in question. LOL..........its about the size of one of them damned 'oriental umbrellas' they serve up in exotic drinks in bars! LOL! Its so obvious this is a memento of some event.......perhaps when she signed that resolution/proclamation/whatever it was about Alaska airplanes helping transport jews or whatever the hell it was. Geeze..........much ado about NOTHING.
Anyone can change, of course, but I do not believe Sarah would do anything she knew would be detremental to America or families such as her own. She is, in my opinion, an exceptionally patient and determined forward planner.
I appreciate YOUR insight, eskimo. If Palin ever runs for the TOP of a ticket, I'll give her a LONG hard look see. LONG and HARD look see. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestSo when does the Israel that "The generation who sees Israel reconstituted shall not pass away (paraphr.)" come into being ya suppose?
#43. To: Rotara (#41)
#44. To: Original_Intent (#40)
Where in the Ten Commandments does it say "Kill thy Neighbor"? Where in the Christian Scriptures does one find justification for wholesale slaughter to bring about a state of affairs to bring the Second Coming?
#45. To: buckeye (#43)
I have no interest in sharing my religious beliefs with you. You needn't bother expressing yours, because I wouldn't believe you anyway.
#46. To: buckeye (#39)
Evangelicals have earned every right to be called America's Islamists. And you go along with them to the extent that you make these same claims. How does it feel?
#47. To: Rotara (#45)
#48. To: Rotara (#46)
Tell Hitler hello when you see him.
#49. To: noone222 (#42)
witness the return of Israel and the end of times.
#50. To: buckeye (#48)
You always resort to this insult when you can't think of anything better to say. It's very informative as to where your true loyalties are.
#51. To: buckeye (#47)
You're welcome to your religious beliefs as long as they don't negatively impact me. You've made it clear that they do.
#52. To: Rotara (#44)
I guess I've never come across anyone that proclaims to follow (as best they know how) Yeshua who believes the end needs to be pushed along. I'm sure they're out there because I've seen this mentioned more than once in forums like this.
#53. To: Original_Intent (#52)
That "the Rapture" is nowhere mentioned in Christian Scripture does not seem to faze them.
#54. To: buckeye (#9)
She's campaigning with the yarmaluke wearing McCain, and sending her son into combat for Israel in Iraq. I can't think of a better clarification than that.
#55. To: Artisan (#13)
buckeye, i saw an abbreivated version of this info on lewrockwell this morning and thought of you, lol!
#56. To: eskimo (#54)
Well, I doubt you know her as well as I do.
#57. To: Original_Intent (#52)
Funny, no mention of Saudi Arabia, Iran or any of the others.
#58. To: eskimo (#54)
#59. To: eskimo, buckeye, Ferret Mike (#56)
Well, I doubt you know her as well as I do.
#60. To: buckeye (#35)
Jews are Jews. They have genetic links to one another that indicate so.
#61. To: noone222 (#60)
#62. To: Cynicom (#58)
I am interested in whether she may have compromised some of her views and principles in order to possibly have some effect later on this nation.
#63. To: robnoel, Original_Intent (#57)
Funny, no mention of Saudi Arabia, Iran or any of the others.
#64. To: Rotara (#62)
Having Preznit's die in office to get the Veep is not a strategy I'll subscribe to.
#65. To: Rotara (#49)
I'm trying to find that verse. Is it in one of the Gospels?
#66. To: Cynicom (#64)
Happened a LOT of times.
#67. To: noone222 (#65)
Actually it's the parable of the fig tree and it is in the gospels somewhere ... I'm dead tired but promise to post it as soon as I get a little sleep. [I've been planting wheat since very early this morning.]
#68. To: buckeye (#61)
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#69. To: Rotara (#66)
#70. To: noone222 (#68)
I'm a truth seeker
#71. To: noone222 (#6)
#72. To: rowdee (#71)
Not in my book--it merely means they haven't arrived at whatever conclusion you have, or that I have-- whatever that is.
#73. To: noone222, rowdee (#68)
We can continue this discussion later because I really need to get some sleep.
#74. To: Rotara (#70)
#75. To: buckeye (#73)
some Jews today, as far as I know, can claim accurate lineage back to those people.
#76. To: noone222 (#74)
I like you too because I find myself in agreement with your opinions.
#77. To: buckeye, noone222, rowdee (#73)
Sounds good. All I know of MacDonald is that he says modern Jews are all linked, and he says genetic studies back this up. Your argument from antiquity is very difficult to refute with empirical information, since we have so little. However, the Bible does indicate that people living in Palestine at the time of rule of the Romans were Jews, and some Jews today, as far as I know, can claim accurate lineage back to those people. If genetic studies link them to others, then the argument from antiquity is fairly vulnerable.
#78. To: Cynicom (#69)
Dynamics at play and you failed Hardball Politics 101 for sure.
#79. To: angle (#0)
#80. To: buckeye, ALL THE WHINERS AND MOANERS (#0)
#81. To: Cynicom, buckeye, Rotara (#58)
I am interested in whether she may have compromised some of her views and principles in order to possibly have some effect later on this nation.
#82. To: eskimo (#81)
She is, in my opinion, an exceptionally patient and determined forward planner.
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