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Title: OBAMA 'ENLISTS' - DEM AGREES US IS FIGHTING 'WAR ON TERROR'
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/seven/0905200 ... itics/obama_enlists_127502.htm
Published: Sep 5, 2008
Author: GEOFF EARLE
Post Date: 2008-09-05 16:00:41 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 1143
Comments: 60

LANCASTER, Pa. - Barack Obama says the United States is engaged in a "war on terror" - using the same wording as President Bush to describe the global battle against Islamic extremists.

In his first sit-down interview with Bill O'Reilly of "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox News Channel, Obama said he absolutely" believes the United States is fighting a war on terror.

Obama said the enemy was "al Qaeda, the Taliban, a whole host of networks that are bent on attacking America, who have a distorted ideology, who have perverted the faith of Islam."

Many Democrats reject the use of the term, which the administration has used to argue for a global conflict that extends beyond national boundaries, and includes the war in Iraq, which Obama opposed and called a "dumb war."

The much anticipated interview was months in the making -after repeated requests from O'Reilly, who even trailed Obama at a rally in Nashua, NH, earlier this year to make his appeal in person - and winding up in a shoving match with a campaign aide.

Despite talk of bad blood between the Democratic nominee and the broadcaster, Obama seemed positively upbeat after Thursday's sitdown with O'Reilly.

Asked how it went, Obama replied, "It was great."

During the interview, Obama also called Iran a "major threat," and said it would be "unacceptable" for the regime to develop a nuclear weapon.

"It's sufficient to say I would not take military action off the table, and that I will never hesitate to use our military force in order to protect the homeland and the United States' interests."

But Obama has said repeatedly that he favors diplomacy as a first course of action.

Obama also warned against the current US administration lumping radical Islamic groups together.

"They have fueled a whole host of terrorist organizations," Obama said of Iran, but "we have to have the ability to distinguish between groups . . . They may not all be part and parcel of the same ideology."

Obama also said President Bush's surge of troops into Iraq - which Obama initially opposed - "has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated.

"I've already said it's succeeded beyond our wildest dreams."

Before his "O'Reilly Factor" debut, Obama spent Thursday campaigning through rural Pennsylvania, a swing state that is critical victory.

He toured a factory in York, where he continued to pound on the Republicans for stressing biography over issues.

"I understand that they don't have much of an agenda to run on, but I think the American people deserve more than the same old vitriol that we've seen the last couple of days," he said.

He then headed to Lancaster, west of Philadelphia, where a long line of voters stretched around the block to catch Obama at an evening event.


Poster Comment:

OK, PILES. Obama believes, as does Bush, in the WOT, al Qaeda, the Taliban, the evil Iran and last but not least, that Bush's surge " succeeded beyond our wildest dreams"

Change?

Change my ass. (1 image)

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#21. To: Vitamin Z (#18)

O'Caine'08 might be closer to home.

She don't like, she don't like, she don't liiikkke...O'CAINE!

OCaine '08

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   16:54:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#19)

As if Palin is any more principled than Obummer. Palin went from being a Buchanan and Ron Paul supporter to a full-fledged Neocon within seconds of McCain's invite.

I know, but she's more appealing. I figure since the show is all about entertainment, I am allowed to be superficial like the rest of the population.

;)

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   16:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rotara (#14)

UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE!!!

Yes!!!

Ms. Spin....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   16:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vitamin Z (#22) (Edited)

I know, but she's more appealing. I figure since the show is all about entertainment, I am allowed to be superficial like the rest of the population.

Isn't Paris Hilton still running? If only Obummer had waited for McCain's Palin pick, he could have countered by offering Paris the VP slot.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-05   16:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Vitamin Z (#22)

I figure since the show is all about entertainment, I am allowed to be superficial like the rest of the population.

Exactimundo.

Remember, more Americans felt comfortable hypothetically having a beer with a teetotaller than his opponent during the last two elections.

Superficial, you want American, lemme tell ya, McCain dated a stripper while flight training in Pensacola, Fanny - the Fabulous Flame of Florida and he married a BEER heiress.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-05   16:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vitamin Z, swarthyguy, Louis Farrakhan (#20)

Obama could start his own church after the election. He'll have time.

That might anger Rev. Wright, though.

I wonder what post Calypso Louis was promised to deliver the Black Muhammadan Power vote??

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   16:59:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE!!!

Yes!!!

And now for something completely unrelated:

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:01:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Vitamin Z (#22)

I figure since the show is all about entertainment, I am allowed to be superficial like the rest of the population.

I've seen fuglier neocons! NILF!


(She reminds me of a librarian I almost married while in Vegas as a yute)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:04:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: swarthyguy (#4)

Isn't that trying to out-Bush the Bush administration, while Obama campaigned on getting out of Iraq and spending the money on programs at home?

He campaigned on both.

Social programs for Iraq? Sure! Social programs at home? No problem! And don't worry MIC you get your share too! And to top it off he'll cut taxes and decrease spending/debt while doing all of the above at the same time.

More spending + less income = PROFIT!

No one has explained to me how that can be done.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-09-05   17:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Oboma is a politician, he changes to match his surroundings. O bama = O Rielly = O my G_D

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-09-05   17:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rotara (#27)

Lets make this happen.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   17:06:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rotara (#28)

I've seen fuglier neocons! NILF!

LOL. She's got to be the first NILF in history!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   17:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#2)

About the best that could be hoped for is that he's lying through his teeth just to try to get more votes, and that he has no intention of continuing the war party.

Otherwise, it kinda looks like the only foreign policy change we *might* get is a pullout of Iraq. Maybe. He sure has migrated.

Vote Ron Paul.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-09-05   17:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#2)

Sorry, I'm busy tonite. But, why should I be defending anyone?

I assume that you found some proof that O's is not perfect and that he's a partial selloff.

And?

Would you rather have McCain in the WH, nukeing away at the Russkies?

Like papa Olmert used to say... this is turning into an Existentialist problem now.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-05   17:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#29)

Isn't that trying to out-Bush the Bush administration, while Obama campaigned on getting out of Iraq and spending the money on programs at home?

He campaigned on both.

Social programs for Iraq? Sure! Social programs at home? No problem! And don't worry MIC you get your share too! And to top it off he'll cut taxes and decrease spending/debt while doing all of the above at the same time.

More spending + less income = PROFIT!

No one has explained to me how that can be done.

I will fight the Global Socialists with my last breath.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#34)

I assume that you found some proof that O's is not perfect and that he's a partial total selloff.

Fixed

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   17:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

I really don't care for 'diddy' much at all.

In fact, you too can tell him what a [deleted: Jungle Reference] he is at:

diddy@msn.com

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Vitamin Z (#32)

LOL. She's got to be the first NILF in history!

My wife even thinks she's too hot to handle!

LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Pinguinite (#33)

About the best that could be hoped for is that he's lying through his teeth just to try to get more votes, and that he has no intention of continuing the war party.

Otherwise, it kinda looks like the only foreign policy change we *might* get is a pullout of Iraq. Maybe. He sure has migrated.

Vote Ron Paul.

CHANGEWEHOPE

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#34)

Sorry, I'm

I agree.

You actually think that O'Cain make these policy decisions and carry out their own plans.

Of course we all know that YOU know better, you just CAN'T WAIT for Fobama's Socialist Domestic Policy.

As if they are elected and not selected.

Sorry, you are.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#24)

Isn't Paris Hilton still running? If only Obummer had waited for McCain's Palin pick, he could have countered by offering Paris the VP slot.

Paris isn't running and can't run, at least not yet. She isn't old enough to be president, at least not according to the Constitution. They may waive the age requirement though. I read just the other day that Biden was elected for his first term in the Senate when he still wasn't old enough to serve there either. I guess the establishment waives any of the rules that goes against their annointed ones.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-05   17:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: James Deffenbach (#41)

I guess the establishment waives any of the rules that goes against their annointed ones.

ESTABLISHMENT RULES

Rule #1: ESTABLISHMENT MAKES UP THEIR OWN RULES

Rule #2: See Rule #1

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Rotara (#40)

When Obingo calls for "volunteers" for America to join his war in Afghan/Paki, I know a few people that will be too busy to serve.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-05   17:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Rotara (#28)

I've seen fuglier neocons! NILF!

I knew what MILF meant but had never heard of NILF before so I had to do a search. This what you meant?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-05   17:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Cynicom, Mothers for Obama (#43)

When Obingo calls for "volunteers" for America to join his war in Afghan/Paki, I know a few people that will be too busy to serve.

True, but some Women for OBingo have strapping sons at home and the least they could do is urge them to join the military and fight the dirty Muzzies and this vicious war on terror.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   17:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Cynicom (#43)

When Obingo calls for "volunteers" for America to join his war in Afghan/Paki, I know a few people that will be too busy to serve.

They won't be getting their grubby hands on anyone I know that doesn't want to fight for the new luciferian world order. That might be the trip wire? Who knows, there's so many set now.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: James Deffenbach (#44)

This what you meant?

FOFLOL!!

NO! But that's some funny chit my brutha from anutha mutha! AHAHA

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Rotara, ALL (#27)

For your information, that image is representative of corporatist bullshit, a dishonest exageration and far from reality. It might be funny were it true. This is not my opinion, it is fact that I'm aware of from first hand experience. Don't believe everything you hear or read.

chemtrails

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2008-09-05   17:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: WTF? (#48)

I know how fucked up Socialized healthcare is and I know how fucked up every Socialist I know is.

I also know that they (The Global Socialists -corp.gov- ) fucked up our current system so that a fucked up Socialist shit hole system like Taxachewsetts got under Romney is set up as the fucking answer.

Got any fucking thing else on the matter?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   18:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rotara (#47)

NO! But that's some funny chit my brutha from anutha mutha! AHAHA

LOL--I am glad you liked it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-05   18:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull, iconoclast (#0)

Ping for later, this is too good to respond to with a buffalo wing in one hand.

Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)

iconoclast  posted on  2008-09-05   18:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: iconoclast (#51)

Ummmmmm.....buffalo wings (/Homer Simpson)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   19:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Rotara (#49)

I know how fucked up Socialized healthcare is and I know how fucked up every Socialist I know is.

I also know that they (The Global Socialists -corp.gov- ) fucked up our current system so that a fucked up Socialist shit hole system like Taxachewsetts got under Romney is set up as the fucking answer.

Got any fucking thing else on the matter?

Fuck yeah. Fuck you fuck don't fuck know fuck jack fuck shit fuck. Fuck.

Fuck one fuck more fuck thing fuck...

Fuck you fuck.

;-)

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” ~ Nikola Tesla

WTF?  posted on  2008-09-05   20:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull, iconoclast (#52) (Edited)

Ummmmmm.....buffalo wings (/Homer Simpson)

I'll provide a side dish

and pie for after


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-09-05   21:02:29 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

OK, PILES. Obama believes ...

Obama believes in "don't tread on me".

The fact that he can't make a point without stepping on his tongue (stupidly uttering the Bush invented cover word for perpetual war) is not the story here.

A so-called world power that cannot even seek, much less achieve, retribution for an invasion of it's soil is less than a paper tiger.

Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)

iconoclast  posted on  2008-09-08   11:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Rotara (#14)

Pocket change?

That's what your kids and grandkids wind up with after the fascists have come fully out of the closet this weekend.

Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)

iconoclast  posted on  2008-09-08   11:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Rotara (#35)

I will fight the Global Socialists with my last breath.

Hurrah for you!

Too bad your comrades in arms are fascists.

Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)

iconoclast  posted on  2008-09-08   11:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Rotara, All (#35)

You clowns are all direct descendants of the little old lady in tennis shoes ... lookin' under your bed for commies while neocon-facsist walked through your unlocked front door.

Worse yet, you're delighted to offer 'em cookies, coffee and four more years.

Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)

iconoclast  posted on  2008-09-08   11:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: iconoclast (#55)

A so-called world power that cannot even seek, much less achieve, retribution for an invasion of it's soil is less than a paper tiger.

I'm not understanding. Were we invaded?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-08   11:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#59)

I'm not understanding. Were we invaded?

Did it happen after you moved to the boonies?

Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)

iconoclast  posted on  2008-09-08   11:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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