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Title: Sarah Palin Needs to Step Aside ... And James Dobson Is Just a Sorry Religious Hustler
Source: The Fountain of Truth
URL Source: http://www.geocities.com/fountoftruth/palin.html
Published: Sep 6, 2008
Author: Doug Newman
Post Date: 2008-09-06 01:01:47 by snoopdougg
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Views: 16855
Comments: 147

I commend Bristol Palin on deciding to go through with her pregnancy and her plans to marry Levi Johnston. I also commend Sarah Palin for not rushing her daughter off to an abortionist because a pregnant, unwed 17-year-old daughter might tarnish her political image.

That said, Sarah Palin needs to step aside and let someone else be John McCain’s vice presidential nominee.

In a constitutional world, vice presidents would have a simple job with just two duties: break ties in the Senate and hope and pray that the president doesn’t meet an untimely demise.

We do not live in such a world. The vice presidency, like every other aspect of the federal government, has grown grotesquely out of control. Indeed, you can safely say that George HW Bush ran the show for Reagan and Dick Cheney has done likewise for Dubya.

By accepting John McCain’s offer, Sarah Palin stepped out of the relative serenity of Juneau -- 31,000 people and two McDonald's -- and into a political shark tank that will only become infinitely more unforgiving in the coming months and years.

Is it “unfair” that Palin’s personal life is being so heavily scrutinized? Was it "unfair" when so many people made so much of Bill Clinton's personal life? (And why do we hear next to nothing about John McCain’s sordid, philandering past?) Every politician ought to have their life pried apart in such a fashion. Especially in today’s world when you consider how intrusively they micromanage our lives. Have you filled out one of their 1040s recently?

No human being ought to be entrusted with as much power as we allow our presidents and VPs. When you pull back the curtain and you meet these Great and Powerful Ozzes, you find bumbling incompetent fools. They are no better or smarter than you or I. Why are we so desperate to elevate these people to such levels of power and glory?

I have heard people ask what would happen had Bristol Palin been a black girl in the ghetto. She no doubt would not have the financial cushion she will very likely have access to. She would be been written off by all the Republican media jabberers as a product of 75 years of liberalism. But no-o-o-o-o. Her mom has just been tapped to run as VP representing the GOP, which many think stands for God’s Official Party. So just sit down and shut up if you have any questions about anyone's personal life.

It is bad enough that family breakdown has produced such tragic results in the inner city. How many prison inmates and gang bangers came from a stable family environment with both Mom and Dad having a solid influence in their lives?

While suburban kids might not face the same financial challenges as their ghetto counterparts, I have seen too many bad things happen when parents overemphasize careers at the expense of their children. Time and again, I have seen kids from affluent suburban backgrounds in places like the Jersey Shore, north suburban Phoenix and south suburban Denver go off the deep end. In every case, there was a dearth of parental involvement at home.

Yes, plenty of kids of dysfunctional homes have turned out just fine. But when a kid's life spins out of control, they almost always have had more than a few issues at home.

The fallout for these kids manifests itself in numerous ways, with teen pregnancy being just one of them. What did Sarah Palin sacrifice to advance her political career? I am not judging or condemning. I am just asking.

A hundred years ago, it was perfectly legal for a 10-year-old to walk into a drug store, plop down cash and buy heroin. And we had no drug problem! Why? Because parents and churches had a far stronger influence instilling morals and responsibility in children.

Today, the divorce rate is well over 50 percent, too many parents run off in every direction imaginable at the expense of their children, and way too many preachers think and talk like politicians whining, weeping and wailing about how the government doesn’t do enough to solve problems. America’s moral collapse has less to do with a "failure of government" than a failure of way too many people to heed the words of a bumper sticker one sees from time to time along Colorado’s Front Range: “Focus on your own damn family.” (More on the Focus thing in a few paragraphs.)

I have never raised kids, so anything I say on the subject is just an opinion and worth no more than you are paying me for it. However, I am going to pretend for a minute that I write an advice column.

"Dear Dougie,

“I have been a successful professional woman for the last 15 years. I earn $175,000 annually. Recently, I received an offer from a competitor that would more than double my income, but would also require almost constant travel. I have a four-month-old daughter with Downs Syndrome and a 17-year-old daughter who is four months pregnant. What should I do?”

-- Tempted in Scarsdale

"Dear Tempted,

“Family comes first. No one can adequately substitute for your influence and presence around the home. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. Children spell love T-I-M-E. (1) You should reject this financially tantalizing offer and tend to your most important duties, i.e. those of a mother.”

As VP, Sarah Palin would be one heartbeat away from the presidency. Should something happen to a President McCain early on in his administration, can you imagine this scenario that I heard on the radio the other day?

“Madame President! You have a call on the red phone from Russia!”

 “Could you please take a message? I am changing a diaper.”

You only have 24 hours in a day. Something has to give. Sarah Palin has children that desparately need her presence right now. The Palin family cannot afford this.

I am just asking questions about a vice presidential nominee that are asked all the time about families out here in real life. America doesn’t suffer from a “lack of leadership in Washington” – barf -- nearly as much as it does from family breakdown. No president or “policy” can reverse this. Politics is merely a great big game of “let’s pretend”. The “family values” agenda is no exception.

Enter James Dobson of Focus on the Family. I used to have a lot of respect for Dobson back when his main focus, if you will, was on families, marriage, child rearing and Christian morals and values. Occasionally, he gave you a political opinion. That was his prerogative.

Then, he joined Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and the rest of the Religious Right and yoked himself unequally with some of the most un-Christlike people you can imagine. Millions of Christians followed him by drinking this Kool-Aid.

Earlier this year, Dobson said there was no way he could support John McCain for president. Then, he warmed up to the idea. Now, with the Palin nomination, Dobson and Focus have jumped right on board. Tom Minnery, a senior Focus official cited “’the pro-life, pro-family platform adopted by the party,’ and the selection of Palin.”

If she becomes VP, Sarah Palin is going to have to make some serious sacrifices in the family department. She stands to be gone from them almost continuously for up to eight years. Her "values" will have to be put on hold.

Don’t dare think that Sarah Palin is Ron Paul Lite. Establishment Republicans went out of their way to deny Ron Paul's very existence. There is no way they would pick anyone of his ilk to be VP.

Dobson has become just one more sorry religious hustler. While, he may not have a fleet of Lamborghinis or a private jet, he has used his Christian influence for a most un-Christian purpose: seducing millions of Christians into endorsing evil in high places. To hear some people talk here in Colorado, Dobson's words have the weight of Holy Writ.

I got an e-mail recently from someone who thought that Dobson actually supported McCain the whole time and that he just wanted to be schmoozed. I can get with that. Dobson positively basks in his newfound role of Christian political crusader.

Sarah Palin needs to step aside. In the eyes of God, her duties as a mother are far more important than her political career. In so doing, she would be a far greater role model -- and a far greater antithesis to Hillary Clinton -- than she could ever be as VP. Edward VIII abdicated the British throne “for the woman he loved.” Why can’t Sarah Palin do likewise for the sake of her family?

One of our earliest lurches away from true constitutionalism was the Twelfth Amendment. Until then, the VP was not the president’s running mate, but the person who got the second most votes in the Electoral College. If they had radically differing philosophies, oh well. This served as a brake on executive power.

Now, the VP’s role is to do the will of the president. Whatever independent, libertarian or constitutionalist principles Sarah Palin may have held must now be subordinated to the will of John McCain. In the words of Lew Rockwell:

"When a decent person accepts a job such as vice president, our first instinct is to celebrate that good people are in a position of power and influence. This is what the McCain campaign is counting on. But this is an illusion. The influence runs completely the other way. Good people become part of the party machine and surrender all their principles in order to survive.

“We are speaking here of the leviathan state that lives on a lie. To be part of that, you too must become part of the lie. It is perhaps possible to be the governor of a small state such as Alaska and not be part of the machine. It is not possible to be vice president of the United State and not enter into the deeply immoral arena that values the burying of all principle, and saying and doing whatever is necessary to bolster power.”

Sarah Palin is walking into the gears of a machine that will grind her into pieces for its own ends. It will require enormous courage for her to walk away with her soul intact. Yet this is what she needs to do and do now if she truly is the genuine article.


(1) While these last two sentences do not contain my original ideas, I sure wish they were.


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#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#18)

Without reprinting the entire thing, here's my impression; the tone was upbeat, funny, sarcastic, loaded with direct smack downs to the "community organizer" and his lack of accomplishments. The delivery was a wonderful contrast to the pomposity of your God-Man and his faux Grecian setting.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-06   10:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, jethro tull (#18)

I have a few memorable quotes from you such as...

Paul cant win...Paul cant win...

Perhaps if you are idle at the present time, I could dig up some memorable quotes by Obingo about Iran and Israel????

That is if you care to endure them yet again. I also have some from Bidet about your favorite country Israel. Just tryin to help.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

Okay, so to summarize, she had nothing to say (the only thing you could remember was her making fun of Obama's being active in a faith-based org), but she said it in a nasty way that made her stupid party feel good about her nasty emptiness.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   10:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#21)

but she said it in a nasty way that made her stupid party feel good about her nasty emptiness.

Sour stomach again this morning. Short term you mite try tums to sweeten your disposition.

Just tryin to help a partisan leftwing nutter that is a friend.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

Holy cows!!! Hanna-Barberra is expected to hit us. Probably flood my basement, overfill the pool.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   10:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

When Obingo and Bidet are crowned Mr. and Mrs. Amerika and the war is enlarged, a draft is brought out and such, one has to wonder how all of this will be justified?

Bush blamed everything on Clinton, dems denied, now Obingo has to blame Bush, seems sort of like a daisy chain here.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#24)

I would welcome a draft maybe then Americans will lose it's love affair with everything military

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-06   10:12:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robnoel (#25)

I would welcome a draft maybe then Americans will lose it's love affair with everything military

You are correct to a degree.

My opinion is from experience. In my years of military time/Korea, I did not meet one man that did not want to go home. Not one exception. We were all there by physical force, not from Americans that loved war, rather by force from a "government" that has not been the servant of the people for a very long time.

As you climb the social ladder in this country, you find those that are in control, wage wars and gather wealth. The cannon fodder "Americans" at the bottom have NEVER started a war, we want only to be left alone.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#21)

Nasty is your word, not mine. She was funny and liberalism deserves heavy doses of humor and sarcasm. How else does one counter "feelings" and an empty mantra of hope and change :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-06   10:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom, Vast (#24)

When Obingo and Bidet are crowned Mr. and Mrs. Amerika and the war is enlarged, a draft is brought out and such, one has to wonder how all of this will be justified?

I'm thinking Vast is young enough to make the cut afa military service. If not him, he should offer his children to his Obingo God of War.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-06   10:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#26)

I have never thought of my decade plus military service as a "noble effort" rather the opposite it took me almost 20 years to have any desire to pick up a rifle even then it brought back bad memories

robnoel  posted on  2008-09-06   10:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

Dasright. I do remember the GOPs, making fun of them 40 yr. old inner-city grandmothers. Newt used to joke about that a lot.

Now, try to do this today and I guarantee you gonna see the GOPs howling in outrage within a millisecond, all that sense of humor gone.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   10:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#27) (Edited)

Nasty is your word, not mine. She was funny and liberalism deserves heavy doses of humor and sarcasm. How else does one counter "feelings" and an empty mantra of hope and change :)

Her zingers were a riot. The fans of Ceasar are not amused. I'm now trying to figure out if they are racists or sexists. ;)

Wouldn't it be great if Sarah dressed up in a toga, with a crown of arugula, sporting sandals, perhaps a stone tablet and dragged in a couple of styrofoam columns to the VP debate? Throw in some thunderbolts.

Peppa  posted on  2008-09-06   10:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

I'm thinking Vast is young enough to make the cut afa military service. If not him, he should offer his children to his Obingo God of War.

Now, THAT's entertainment.

So, say it again? Obama is the war-lover while McCain is the man of peace. Yes?

You're the funny guy, fersure.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   10:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

If not him, he should offer his children to his Obingo God of War.

Go way back.

Do you recall one of the first abortions by Bush came about with his good friend Teddy Kennedy??? The education bill?

I knew then we had been slickered one more time by the system. Many Americans that were paying attention needed Prep H.

After Obingo bends his worshippers over a time or two, I wonder if those here will have the honesty to admit it?

I aint votin, refuse to be bent over by a Savior or a fake Hero.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Peppa, christine, jethro tull (#31)

Wouldn't it be great if Sarah dressed up in a toga, with a crown of arugula, sporting sandals, perhaps a stone tablet and dragged in a couple of styrofoam columns to the VP debate? Throw in some thunderbolts.

Damn...excellent idea.

The numbers crunchers say Palin is more popular than the other three system losers, Obingo, Bidet and McKooK.

Someone out there is paying attention.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#34)

I have another one: how about Palin/McCain both in swimsuits, shown sprinting toward the symbolic 'finish line'.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   10:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#34)

Damn...excellent idea.

The numbers crunchers say Palin is more popular than the other three system losers, Obingo, Bidet and McKooK.

Someone out there is paying attention.

I think so too. Sarah struck a nerve, even if she didn't write the speech herself. Of course we know only God himself wrote and delivered the word spoken in the human form of Obongo.. so, that's hardly a fair comparison. ;) hehehehe

Peppa  posted on  2008-09-06   10:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#35)

how about Palin/McCain both in swimsuits,

I hope you are red blooded American enough to at least not let partisan politics blind you to a rather comely young lady??????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#24)

Obingo and Bidet

Too funny!!!

When I saw Obingo a bit earlier I thought for a second that it was Oingo Boingo.

The Fountain of Truth

snoopdougg  posted on  2008-09-06   10:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Peppa (#36)

Sarah struck a nerve, even if she didn't write the speech herself.

Palins speech...

The McKooK crap was injected by others, the rest I would say was hers for one reason, no flowery professional BS artist mouthings.

No going to save the world before lunch nonsense.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#37)

It's so funny to watch the stoopids (aka 'the conversatives') doing their conversative dance macabre. It begins with their screaming their lungs off, swearing that never-ever, for as long as they live, are they going to support freaking homosexualist liberals such as McCain. Then, once McCain gets the nomination, they quickly jump into neutral while secretly searching for ways to enthusiastically support their favorite traitor without losing much face.

The final stage is where, once they find some ridiculous 'reason' to support the creep, they offer their backsides wide open, begging to be penetrated. Dobson is one of them. And, anyone who believes that Rush or Honeybee are not going to enthusiastically vote for McFreak and his prop babe must be in a reality-denying mode or uninformed or completely brainwashed - if that which was washed could qualify to be called a brain.

It is also funny to watch some of this site membership, gently swinging into the McCain-loving camp. They are, oh yes, proud patriots and unflinching conversatives, or maybe freedom-loving libertarians but, in the end, they are going to beg everyone else to help bring McCain into the White House and therefore save the nation.

And I like it because, after all, what America is really all about is... massive entertainment.

To quote myself...

This is EXACTLY where this thread is moving.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   10:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Enderby (#9)

pimping for the pachyderm

too funny!!!

The Fountain of Truth

snoopdougg  posted on  2008-09-06   10:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: snoopdougg (#38)

When I saw Obingo a bit earlier I thought for a second that it was Oingo Boingo.

I have to admit I stole Bidet from OI..whether he stole it or originated I do not know..

If we get saddled with McKooK it will be the dems fault for throwing the election.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#32)

But Vast....I'm not voting. Since you are voting for OBinglo, why not toss some chips into the WOT fray? Yourself? Your 1st born? The Mrs?? Hell, they'll take anyone. Do it man!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-06   10:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, jethro tull, peppa, christine (#40)

This is EXACTLY where this thread is moving.

Go way back Vast...

I have told you many times, why not try adding something of value to any discussion.

Lets put us all on the same page for a starter..

Many of us KNOW the government is the enemy. If you cannot come to terms with that very basic premise, then we will never have a decent discussion on anything political.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   10:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull (#43)

Are you out of your mind?

I don't get your logic but, let's see...

- McCain is for peace and Obama is pro war.
- If you vote for someone you must volunteer for war - I'm looking around for evidence of W's 50-million men and women army.
- But if you vote against the guy or you don't vote at all, then you get to enjoy your retirement.
- If you are a 40-yr old granny, that shows strong family values.
- But if you call the bitch 'a bitch', that's sexism.

Is this treatable?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   10:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Cynicom (#39)

No going to save the world before lunch nonsense.

Good point! That was refreshing.

Peppa  posted on  2008-09-06   11:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom (#44)

Many of us KNOW the government is the enemy. If you cannot come to terms with that very basic premise, then we will never have a decent discussion on anything political.

I'm not going to hold my breath.

Peppa  posted on  2008-09-06   11:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Peppa (#46)

Good point! That was refreshing.

My favorite BS line is this from ALL prez hopefuls...

"We will get this country moving again"..............

Every time I hear that trite saying I cringe.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   11:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Cynicom (#44)

Indeed, the gov't is the enemy. Therefore, what you must do, if you can do anything, is to act in ways that prevent the government from getting bigger or stronger or at least don't accelerate the move.

A McCain government would only accelerate the trend that Clinton/W shepherded. Obama is less likely to continue on that path while McCain is practically certain to give us a strict, war-dedicated, police state.

Now, you go ahead and facilitate McCain's victory.

I stated in the past that Obama is going to win by a landslide. Maybe I was too optimistic. One 'given' in my calculation was the assumption that those who go out and vote have some basic decency. But, the sad reality is that most of those rushing to vote this coming November are going to be the same people who not only elected Clinton, but they re-elected him. And, later, not only did they elect W, but they re-elected him.

So, when you stop assuming that 'basic decency' is part of the equation, because most people lost it, then McCain is more competitive.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   11:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#49)

Indeed, the gov't is the enemy. Therefore, what you must do, if you can do anything, is to act in ways that prevent the government from getting bigger or stronger or at least don't accelerate the move

OK...Fine so far...

Can we agree that ALL FOUR of the people seeking office are members of the same system????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   11:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#4)

Yugoslavia?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-06   11:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Cynicom (#50) (Edited)

Sure, they are players in the system.

The difference is that McCain is fully assimilated while Obama is only half- assimilated. He has the potential of weakening the system and shaking it a little. McCain has no potential. Once McCain takes over, you can almost take it to the bank that he's going to start a couple of new wars, including one with Russia, hopefully cold. I can't see Obama pushing for more wars. His strategy seems to be: catch Ben Ladin, declare victory, focus on 'domestic' issues.

I am not a redistributionist but, between spending a trillion dollars to blow up things and kill people abroad and using that trillion to for domestic giveaways, I'd rather have the latter.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-06   11:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#50)

Can we agree that ALL FOUR of the people seeking office are members of the same system????

Of course not! Oboingo Ungawa Mogambo is above all that. Why, He's The Magnificent Majik Mullato Messiah Savior!

ALL HAIL M4S!

Esso  posted on  2008-09-06   11:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: snoopdougg (#0)

Doug, not your most thought out piece in a so far great body of work.

What do you think the Palins thought they were getting into when they entered the political arena? Maybe you haven't thought out the impact on YOUR family on wasting all your time telling other people how they should live? Maybe you should stop wasting your time worrying about things you have 0% control over and start focusing on things that you actually can control?

Have you considered that if NOBODY ever attempts to step into the ring to make a positive impact then nothing will change.

I personally believe that if Sarah is a 'change agent' of the patriotic stripe (big and doubtful *IF*), she'll be assimilated in short order.

BTW, why shouldn't mcCain, Fobama or JoeHO step down if not for the simple reason that they are all Bilderberg Society approved?

Lastly, dobson is worse than a whore. He's a cheap whore. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-06   11:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#49)

Obama is less likely to continue on that path while McCain is practically certain to give us a strict, war-dedicated, police state.

you're basing that on false hope.

OBAMA 'ENLISTS' - DEM AGREES US IS FIGHTING 'WAR ON TERROR'

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-06   11:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#52)

The difference is that McCain is fully assimilated while Obama is only half- assimilated.

You rank right up there with the most gross posters I've ever encountered on a site of patriots. Were you assigned to Freedom4um by a KOSDUmpsterdiver?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-06   11:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, jethro tull, peppa (#52)

Sure, they are players in the system

OK...Doing fine so far.

The government being the enemy, the system being the owner/operator of this government, there is NO way an American can support any representative of that system.

In silent protest, many of us will not vote. Therefore whatever happens is the responsibility of the partisan believers following the programmed path of the system.

Upon the voters rests the burden of what will transpire.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-06   11:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#45)

Here you go,

1) I'm not voting
2) The National Party has two entrants who favor war. You are choosing the dark horse.
3) Since you are voting for war, yes, back it up with service. Feel free to send a family member, or many family members in your place, but by all means join the fray.
4) To ask others to fight the wars you support is cowardly. Didn't we learn about chickenhawks from Cheney/Bush? Don't have us think this way of you.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-06   11:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#55)

you're basing that on false hope.

It's more than hope me thinks.

It's more than audacity me thinks.

The evidence points to World socialist tool and maybe a professional at that.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-06   11:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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