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Title: Obama's verbal slip fuels his critics
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URL Source: http://washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/
Published: Sep 8, 2008
Author: Christina Bellantoni
Post Date: 2008-09-08 06:22:01 by Disgusted
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Obama's verbal slip fuels his critics Christina Bellantoni Sunday, September 7, 2008 ST. LOUIS, Mo. - Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith." The three words -- immediately corrected -- were during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim. But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it. Mr. Obama, who is a Christian and often proudly speaks about how his faith has influenced his public service, said he finds it "deeply offensive" that there are efforts "coming out of the Republican camp to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith." The exchange came after Mr. Obama said that Republicans are attempting to scare voters by suggesting he is not Christian, which McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said was "cynical." Asked about it on ABC, Mr. Obama said, "These guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand." "The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections," said Mr. Stephanopoulos, who repeatedly interrupted Mr. Obama during the interview. "I don't think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let's say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks," Mr Obama responded, and Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted: "But John McCain said that's wrong." Mr. Obama noted that when Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin "was forced" to talk about her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, he issued a forceful statement to reporters that the line of inquiry was "off limits." But he said the McCain campaign tried to tie him to "liberal blogs that support Obama" and are "attacking Governor Palin." "Let's not play games," he said. "What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come." Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted with, "Christian faith." "My Christian faith," Mr. Obama said quickly. "Well, what I'm saying is that he hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith -- something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time." Asked to comment on the accidental misstatement illustrating the difficulty of the issue, Obama spokesman Bill Burton offered this comment: "I'm not surprised that the only outlet doing this story is The Washington Times."
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#1. To: Disgusted (#0)
The fact that being a "Muslim" is a slur in America is going to make it increasingly difficult to convince the Persian Gulf petrostates financing our federal debt to continue to do so. At last report there were about 1.5 billion nominal Muslims in the world. I'd say a sane nation would find a modus vivendi with them, particularly since most of the "terrorists" are actually CIA or Israeli Mossad-trained black ops guys.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
He is? Sure seems confused about. I think the wright church was 20 years of "good" cover (LMAO) if you ask me..OMG obamaphiles are so fucking deluded it is not even funny. And while you're at it, prove he was born in the USA.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Yes- apparently for entire swaths of boobs- calling an online opponent a Moooslim is an argument winner. Indeed- anything said by a moooslim is a lie and inadmissible in arguments with reichwingers. Any sign of identifying with a moooslim in any way - even basic human empathy- is proof of one being in league with "them". The way reichwingers use the term "Muslim" is no different from the Nazi use of "Jew" actually.
Burka, Wasn't it Obama who said he was a Muslim, after saying he wasn't? Or is it he said he wasn't before saying he was? Anyway, it's all on You Tube, I'm sure you saw it. And no it isn't a big deal other than it tends to inject further doubt in everything the brother says.
A non-story ... his meaning was clear. But there's no lock on the cage of his spittle mouthed opposition.
Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)
Long time no see.
Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)
to be fair, Obama wasn't admitting he's a muslim there. he's admitting to steph that steph was correct that mcCain never claimed that Obama was a muslim (an assertion Obama made at the beginning of the interview).
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That is because of the PsyOps that has been going 24/7 to sell that meme. It is nothing more than a psychological plant to influence and control the perceptions and emotions of the American Sheeple. The reality is, I am convinced, that most of the people selling this idea are Israel supporters i.e., ethnic Jews - Zionists - (mostly communists and atheists in reality - and Occultists/Satanists). As well you have the purchased Christian Kooks who are selling the perversion of "Revelations" to sell "The Rupture" and Zionism to the Christian SUCKERS. All the while supporting, actively or by acquiescence, criminality and foul inhumanity that is an absolutely antithetical to alleged Christian teachings. As for the NeoTrotskyCons look at the top NeoTrotskyCons - Wolfowitz, Perle, Zakheim, et. al., .... The push is purely and simply a political manipulation in order to get the U.S. to remove the roadblocks to Israel's absolute dominance in the Middle East and the establishment of Eretz Y'srael (Greater Israel). Of course in turn Israel will be betrayed by the criminals at the very top - once they have served their use.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I forgot you were posting on here too, burke! I left Libertypost for good - only because I was restricted on the number of posts a day I could do. Some liberty! As I wrote before on this Obama is a Muslim slime - and I say this as not supporting either scumbag candidate to lead the scumbag USA govt - If Obama is a Muslim - he has not been seen in a mosque for decades. So he must be a sucky Muslim. What do these types think Obama will do if selected? Force convert Americans to Islam? Make polygamy legal? I mean do they follow their own goofy arguments to their final conclusion? Will he - once in office - order the US military to hunt down Christians who won't convert to Islam following a presidential decree? Are these guys retarded? Or is calling Obama a Muslim code word for the N word the way they call Obama arrogant as a code word for ''uppity'? At tleast that makes more sense than just being afraid he is a Muslim - like he would order the US troops under his command to surrender to al-Qaeda or something. That is how I know a fraud is going on - when they accuse someone of being a Muslim but do not then tell us what that means in terms of policy. They leave that open ended. That is psy-ops at its finest because the propagandists who came up with this line for McCain's group knows the fevered mind of the GOP lickspittle will fill in the blanks with their overactive fevered imaginations. I do not support Obama - but these guys are using such stupid arguments to justify supporting McCain - an equally stupid candidate unfit for the office of president as Obama is - that I have to comment on this.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
I am glad toy think so, too. I mean I was thinking this also and was wondering if others also saw this as well - the ones not yet turned into zombies like the old 50s movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". As I wrote before on this Obama is a Muslim slime - and I say this as not supporting either scumbag candidate to lead the scumbag USA govt - If Obama is a Muslim - he has not been seen in a mosque for decades. So he must be a sucky Muslim. What do these types think Obama will do if selected? Force convert Americans to Islam? Make polygamy legal? I mean do they follow their own goofy arguments to their final conclusion? Will he - once in office - order the US military to hunt down Christians who won't convert to Islam following a presidential decree? Are these guys retarded? Or is calling Obama a Muslim code word for the N word the way they call Obama arrogant as a code word for ''uppity'? At tleast that makes more sense than just being afraid he is a Muslim - like he would order the US troops under his command to surrender to al-Qaeda or something. That is how I know a fraud is going on - when they accuse someone of being a Muslim but do not then tell us what that means in terms of policy. They leave that open ended. That is psy-ops at its finest because the propagandists who came up with this line for McCain's group knows the fevered mind of the GOP lickspittle will fill in the blanks with their overactive fevered imaginations. I do not support Obama - but these guys are using such stupid arguments to justify supporting McCain - an equally stupid candidate unfit for the office of president as Obama is - that I have to comment on this.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
Barack Hussein Obama dressed in traditional Irish kilt preparing for Chicago's St. Patrick's Day parade. Please, do not believe your lying eyes. The man is a Saul Alinsky trained liar.
Big effin deal JT. I've been photographed in a big ole straw field hat when visiting my Dad's folks in TN. Even milked a cow down there. Maybe you've got a picture of Obie milk'in a goat in your archives.
Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)
No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
Barack was 11 months old when Alinsky died. OTOH: Alinsky was the subject of Hillary Rodham's senior honors thesis at Wellesley College, "There Is Only The Fight...": An Analysis of the Alinsky Model.[11] Rodham commented on Alinsky's "charm," but noted that “one of the primary problems of the Alinsky model is that the removal of Alinsky dramatically alters its composition." [11] Later, in her 2003 biography, Living History Clinton notes that although she agreed with some of his ideas, "particularly the value of empowering people to help themselves" they had a fundamental disagreement: "He believed you could change the system only from the outside. I didn't." [11] Once Hillary Rodham Clinton became First Lady of the United States, the White House asked Wellesley College to restrict access to the thesis for fear of being associated too closely with Alinsky's ideas.[12] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky I support Obama in part because, like Dr. Paul, he was the only non-establishemnt pol running this year (well, maybe you can toss Kucinich in there).
Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)
Though, you know, belonging for close to two decades to the Rev. J. Wright's congregation, how could you tell the difference. Substitute Allah and Mohammad for God and Jesus, and Wright's tirades could be delivered by any frothing at the mouth imam in Islamabad or Riyadh or London!
Alinsky theory lives on, even w/o the man. Kinda like Marx.
Well, you gotta admit, it's apropos, if the Vulcans/NeoCons are Trotskyites, then what's wrong with the Obama Dems being Alinksyites - Marcusians. And considering that the USA now has a completely socialized housing industry, where's the beef? ;>
I couldn't agree more. At the minimum we deserve honesty in packaging. Think of all the time folks like us would save researching and such if only these politicians would tell us who they are, what they believe in and where they intend to take us. That we can't get answers to those basic questions is why I stopped participating in the voting scam.
Yes. Of course you recognize that Oh'Bummer would not have that power in a government constrained by the Constitution. I think most of the Shills that push this recognize that as well - but they are paid to push the PsyOps tag lines on the various forums. Of course the worst is that den of slack jawed drooling mouth breathing imbecilles called FRaud Rezpublik - which is just one big PsyOp Site. Exactly. "Conspiracy Theory" and "Conspiracy Theorist" are the same type of mindless meme implanted in the weak minded. It is simply to turn the pre-programmed suckers of the Amurkin' Sheeple to chanting the various PsyOp tag lines that have been implanted in their "minds". It is there to turn on reactions and to turn off analytical awareness. Of course don't kid yourself - the DNC'ophiles are just as programmed, just as deluded, and just as destined for an ill end. The GOP and the DNC are just two horns on the same diseased Bull goring the Republic. Meanwhile the Vultures circle waiting for a feeding. I do agree that neither is fit for any Office not to mention the highest office in the land. Both are controlled puppets and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional and simply unwilling to think, examine, and analyze. They are cowards, and will enjoy a coward's reward.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
that's a perfect allegory.
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JT, you and the other birds of the flock make a mistake in conflating community organizers with poverty pimps (i.e., the Jackson, Sharpton, et. al.) The Rev's initially opposed Obama and supported Clinton .... only leaping onto the Obie train after it was obvious that they were being left at the station. It was wasted effort on their part .... Barack won't be calling either of them into the oval office for counseling when he's elected.
Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)
that's a perfect allegory. That's perfectly ridiculous. No party in American history deserves comparison to the current Republicans. Well, maybe the Tories. Amusingly, the Tories in Revolutionary America were made up of about the same percentage of Americans that are die-hard Republicans today.
Minus accident of birth .. GWB, Mgr. Hardees ... McBomb, Mgr. Burger King .. (both flunked out at Hamburger U.)
I've been watching TV when someone says Iran instead of Iraq and the talking head doesn't correct them. Significant here how George helped out Barak.
I mean do they follow their own goofy arguments to their final conclusion? Who knows? Some do- sure- and they indeed actually think a Moooslim Obama PResident would "Surrender" America - somehow- to "Islam" and they would be praying to Mecca at the point of a gun. Others are just cynical idiots. Still others - while willing to concede that "Islam" isn't about to invade America argue that over hundreds of years that "Islam" will "win" if it isn't checked with- endless war. I used to think that if I just pointed out to right wingers how silly there fears are - how preposterous- just used logic- that they would come around and come to their senses. But over the years I have discovered that much of what animates the "right" in this country is darkly stupid ignorance, fear, hate, and paranoia. I used to think that those attributes were left winger stereotypes of right wingers and jokes. But not anymore. I made the mistake of believing that what animates "conservatives" in this country was belief in free markets, belief in the rule of law, desire for small government, and a love of liberty. In reality- they are for NONE of those things. What animates what passes for a "right wing" in this country is a thinly veiled racial/cultural tribalism that despises liberty, hates freedom, admires raw power- especially military power, and thinks "laws" are "leftist" tools that are employed in the never ending war to "Destroy them". What passes for a "right" in this country is a deeply paranoid, deeply narcissistic- fascism. They are for never ending war- support a huge police state (as long as that state is run by their tribe of white protestants) and desire a strong leader who will literally cut down laws to enact a sort of fascist popular agenda over the entire country. Oh- and they despise localism.
Significant here how George helped out Barak. That is not near as important a "slip" (cough cough) as confusing one's religion.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx No disagreement there at all, it was a bigger slipup than normal. How many Buddhists slip up and call themselves Baptists? The uniqueness was in Georgie's running to the rescue.
#2. To: Disgusted, old friend (#0)
(Edited)
Mr. Obama, who is a Christian
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#3. To: Sam Houston (#1)
The fact that being a "Muslim" is a slur in America
#4. To: Burkeman1 (#3)
#5. To: Disgusted (#0)
"My Christian faith," Mr. Obama said quickly. "Well, what I'm saying is that he hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith -- something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time."
#6. To: Burkeman1 (#3)
#7. To: Disgusted (#0)
"Let's not play games," he said. "What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.
#8. To: Burkeman1 (#3)
The fact that being a "Muslim" is a slur in America
Yes- apparently for entire swaths of boobs- calling an online opponent a Moooslim is an argument winner. Indeed- anything said by a moooslim is a lie and inadmissible in arguments with reichwingers. Any sign of identifying with a moooslim in any way - even basic human empathy- is proof of one being in league with "them".
The way reichwingers use the term "Muslim" is no different from the Nazi use of "Jew" actually.
#9. To: Burkeman1 (#3)
(Edited)
#10. To: Original_Intent (#8)
That is because of the PsyOps that has been going 24/7 to sell that meme. It is nothing more than a psychological plant to influence and control the perceptions and emotions of the American Sheeple.
#11. To: all (#7)
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
Barack Hussein Obama dressed in traditional Irish kilt preparing for Chicago's St. Patrick's Day parade.
#13. To: iconoclast (#12)
Maybe you've got a picture of Obie milk'in a goat in your archives.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
The man is a Saul Alinsky trained liar.
#15. To: Destro (#10)
#16. To: iconoclast (#14)
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
#18. To: swarthyguy (#17)
And considering that the USA now has a completely socialized housing industry, where's the beef? ;>
#19. To: Destro (#10)
What do these types think Obama will do if selected? Force convert Americans to Islam? Make polygamy legal? I mean do they follow their own goofy arguments to their final conclusion? Will he - once in office - order the US military to hunt down Christians who won't convert to Islam following a presidential decree? Are these guys retarded? ...
That is how I know a fraud is going on - when they accuse someone of being a Muslim but do not then tell us what that means in terms of policy. They leave that open ended. That is psy-ops at its finest because the propagandists who came up with this line for McCain's group knows the fevered mind of the GOP lickspittle will fill in the blanks with their overactive fevered imaginations.
I do not support Obama - but these guys are using such stupid arguments to justify supporting McCain - an equally stupid candidate unfit for the office of president as Obama is - that I have to comment on this.
#20. To: Original_Intent (#19)
The GOP and the DNC are just two horns on the same diseased Bull goring the Republic.
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
Alinsky theory lives on, even w/o the man. Kinda like Marx.
#22. To: christine (#20)
The GOP and the DNC are just two horns on the same diseased Bull goring the Republic.
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#18)
#24. To: IndieTX (#2)
#25. To: Destro (#9)
What do these types think Obama will do if selected? Force convert Americans to Islam? Make polygamy legal? I mean do they follow their own goofy arguments to their final conclusion? Will he - once in office - order the US military to hunt down Christians who won't convert to Islam following a presidential decree? Are these guys retarded?
#26. To: swarthyguy (#24)
I've been watching TV when someone says Iran instead of Iraq and the talking head doesn't correct them.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#27. To: IndieTX (#26)
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